Let's Package 2007 #1 pick!

[Murph80]

I am in the go for it all mood this year. I want to move up in this draft and get a sure thing. A impact player. The two I like are Hawk and Huff. The 49ers are looking to trade #6. I say give them #18 and Next years #1. I believe are #1 next year will be a very low pick. Also throw in this years 5th we do not have a fourth this should get the deal done.

Who is with me on this?

 

[JackMagist]

I don't like the idea of throwing in next years #1. We will have needs and issues to address next year as well and wouldn't have a #1 pick to do it with. I want us to be winners long term. I want us to be contenders year after year and you don't do that by selling out the future to become a one year wonder like the Bucs or Ravens.

As for moving up this year; I'd be for it if a good player slipped to a spot where we could get him without having to sell the Ranch.

 

[Bryan8284]

Next year we're still looking at WR, QB, any of the OL spots, a real stud NT (if we get the rotation player this year to backup Ferg), and even a MLB since Bradie is a FA at year's end.

Way too much as of today to throw away the first next year.

 

[Murph80]

Your not going to get a Huff or Hawk or a top quality player in the low 20's of the first rd next year. We will probably trade out of the 1st rd anyways with a low 20's pick. You have to pay decent money for 1st rounders. I just think with Bill most likely leaving after next year we pull the trigger on moving up and going for it this year. We will have plenty for the future we a very young. As for the QB postion this will come through FA. We will not have another high #1 pick after this year for a long time. At least I hope not.

 

[Big Country]

Let's not do something that crazy...

I'll say Bobby Carpenter could have just as much an impact on our season, providing he is drafted by Dallas (possibly even better at the end of the season depending on how healthy he stays)... Plus he's a tad taller at 6'4" compared to Hawk at 6"1". Furthermore, they still could get a shot at Manny Lawson... I don't know that much about him, but TONS of people on this board are really singing his praises... I'd tend to be a believer more now and can see that would give Dallas a real 1-2 punch in the second year of the 3-4 in their pass rushing attack... Lawson and Ware could have an impact similar to the pass rushing OLB monsters that used to be in NE, Chris Slade and Willie McGinest of 1995-96.

Huff is going to be a player no doubt... but Dallas has a financially stocked secondary... They are absolutely not going to spend first round money on a guy when they have T-New at his price, 2003 #5 overall pick, and Roy W., soon to be paid big money, and A. Henry, 10 million signing bonus 2004. Plus Dallas paid about a mil for Aaron Glenn and matched the Keith Davis contract by NO at 3.1 mil.

Look for Dallas to still have a shot at a real impact player... some may not see it, but I've heard possibly NT Haloti Ngata could fall, OT Winston Justice could fall, and so on and so on... there is a lot of real value and some good players in the late first and early second round... Dallas dropping down just a bit could land back in that area and still get another first day pick in the third round or regain their fourth they lost by trading with Filly to get DE Chris Canty. Time will surely tell.

 

[Chuck 54]

I am in the go for it all mood this year. I want to move up in this draft and get a sure thing. A impact player. The two I like are Hawk and Huff. The 49ers are looking to trade #6. I say give them #18 and Next years #1. I believe are #1 next year will be a very low pick. Also throw in this years 5th we do not have a fourth this should get the deal done.

Who is with me on this?

There is not a player in this draft that I'd give 2 #1's for....Bush has the talent, but until he proves he can take it the way Marshall Faulk has, no way.

Ferguson...what a joke...no OL is worth two #1's.

A couple years ago, I might have packaged two #1's to get Leinart because I believe he's going to be a winner in the NFL and we had a great need at QB, but not now.

If anyone gave up two #1's for Huff or Hawk, I would hide in a hole for the next few years.

 

[TheHustler]

I'd trade next years one to get another late 1st or early 2nd this year. But not to trade further up into the first round. Lots of value where we are now.

 

[Clove]

I'd trade next years one to get another late 1st or early 2nd this year. But not to trade further up into the first round. Lots of value where we are now.

I like your idea better. I would trade next years 1 and Ellis or Romo to pick up another late 1st this year.

I fully expect us to be drafting in the late twenties next year, and that pick will be traded IMO.

For those of you wanting Quinn next year, if he is a stud,you have no chance in HELL OF GETTING HIM.

So quit with all the let's get Brady Quinn stuff, and let's worry about this year. I would be all for having 2 number 1s this year. If I told you we could have Lawson and Justice, or Carpenter and Chad Jackson, or any combination of really good players we all like, you all would be for it. I would.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I don't believe we are that far off from the Super Bowl to sacrafice next years #1 at this time.

Let's stick to the plan.....build from the draft. It is only the 2nd year of the Jeff Ireland plan.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Let's Package 2007 #1 pick!
I am in the go for it all mood this year. I want to move up in this draft and get a sure thing. A impact player. The two I like are Hawk and Huff. The 49ers are looking to trade #6. I say give them #18 and Next years #1. I believe are #1 next year will be a very low pick. Also throw in this years 5th we do not have a fourth this should get the deal done.

Who is with me on this?

Not me. Not even for Hawk.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

I can't see it either. At this time of year, everyone is optimistic. But lets think about this for a second, suppose we have a major injury and end up with a season that gives us a high pick next year. Then we are really in bad shape, looking at that team with our high pick, and our team is just a year older.

I just don't see a player worth the risk.

 

[skinsscalper]

As much as I would love to have a guy like Huff, he just isn't worth what it would take to get him. We stillhave major depth issues along the O-line, we need a solid OLB to compliment Ware on the strong side, and we can still get serviceable FS in rounds 2 or 3. Trade up for Huff and any hope of solidifying those positions through the draft go out the window (with the exception of course of a FS).

I think we can still get some serious value with the picks that we have and I would be more in favor of trading down and picking up more opportunities to fill some gaps than I would to trade up and blow our proverbial wad on one guy. The OLB position is deep in this draft and we can get a decent guy even if we trade down, ditto for the FS. The smart thing to do is get as much as we can get for what we've got than gamble in a draft where we are already short of a 4th round pick. JMHO.

SS

 

[Typhus]

So, what would it take to get to pick eight?
Dallas’ pick, number eighteen is worth 900 points.
The 8th pick is worth 1400 points.
The Cowboys 2nd rounder, 49th overall, is worth 410 points.
Dallas would still need 90 points to complete the deal.
That’s what a high 4th rounder is worth. Dallas doesn’t have one, but could offer next year’s 3rd.
Are you willing to give up this year’s #2 and next year’s #3 to get Huff? I’d say no, but I’ll add one caveat — a source I spoke to this week who watches a lot of game tape told me there were two draft prospects he had to watch a second time. One was Reggie Bush. The other was Huff.
That speaks well for moving up, but let me add one more hypothetical. Winston Justice will also be at that Cowboys gathering Monday. Justice is also rated now in the 8 to 13 area. We know the Bills, Ravens, Eagles and the Chargers all covet him. If Dallas finds a way into Buffalo’s spot at 8, who’s more valuable, in your opinion, Huff or Justice?
Would you make this deal, or stay at 18 and take somebody like Carpenter? It’s time to blow some draft smoke of your own.

 

[spindoc]

I don't believe we are that far off from the Super Bowl to sacrafice next years #1 at this time.

If Leinart falls past Pick 5 (popular speculation since the agent change) I would love Dallas to sacrifice next year's pick to move up and select him. Once and for all we could have our future QB. Unfortunately, I don't see us playing in the SuperBowl with our current offensive line or QB so IMHO we still have a few years to groom a QB before the big game.

 

[Cowboys&Caps]

There is not a player in this draft that I'd give 2 #1's for....Bush has the talent, but until he proves he can take it the way Marshall Faulk has, no way.

Ferguson...what a joke...no OL is worth two #1's.

A couple years ago, I might have packaged two #1's to get Leinart because I believe he's going to be a winner in the NFL and we had a great need at QB, but not now.

If anyone gave up two #1's for Huff or Hawk, I would hide in a hole for the next few years.

you are wrong in more ways than one sir.

if keeping our qb on his feet all season isn't worth two late first rounders than what is?

if having a qb of the future and a great on field leader to groom behind bledsoe for a year or too isn't worth two late first rounders than what is?

if completing our defense with a young star such as huff or hawk isn't worth two late first rounders what is?

you are caring more about what people say about our draft strategies than what they say after we dominate ON THE FIELD.

 

[dbair1967]

there are really only 3 players in this drafts early first rd I'd trade up to get, and we dont have the ammo to get up high enough IMO to get any of them:

1) Reggie Bush...I like JJ and MBIII, but Bush is just a special player than doesnt come around very often...he is going to alter whatever franchise he goes to

2) Mario Williams...as with above, I like Ellis and Canty but MW is a tremendous force and could be just as effective playing DE in the 3-4...pairing him with Spears (along with Ware at OLB) would be potentially devastating for opponents...like Bush, players with MW's measurables and skill for the position just dont come around often

3) D'Brick...franchise calibar LT...we could immediately move Adams to RT and have an enormously upgraded OL

in addition to all being tremendous talents, all are seemingly safe picks with very low chance of being a "bust", because not only do they have tremendous physical talent and workout numbers, they all had the production ON the field for big schools against major competition...

AJ Hawk is also a "safe" pick IMO, but he isnt worth a major investment in terms of what we'd have give up to move up to get him, because I dont see him as a dominating, game changing player...he will be a very good player and might even make some probowls, but he isnt a Lawrence Taylor type player

none of this years QB's warrant trade up consideration IMO because they all have some major hole somewhere in their game, making them a HUGE risk that isnt worth taking...

David

 

[dbair1967]

if keeping our qb on his feet all season isn't worth two late first rounders than what is?

if having a qb of the future and a great on field leader to groom behind bledsoe for a year or too isn't worth two late first rounders than what is?

if completing our defense with a young star such as huff or hawk isn't worth two late first rounders what is?

you are caring more about what people say about our draft strategies than what they say after we dominate ON THE FIELD.

I agree with #1, bu none of these QB's (Young, Cutler, Leinart) are worth the type of investment and risk because all have major holes somewhere in their game and high potnetial to be a bust...niether Huff or Hawk are worth multiple #1 picks

David