Lets Rank the DT in the Draft post Senior Bowl

[Macnalty]

FIRST ROUND DTs: Can we pass on any of these guys at 18

Star Lotulelei, Utah : Star is a disruptive force and a load to handle for any guard or center one-on-one.
Sheldon Richardson, Missouri : Never stops exploding off the ball and into his opponent on every snap
John Jenkins, UGA Jenkins displays an impressive combination of power and grace.
Jonathan Hankins, Ohio St. : Has some intensity issues and runs out of gas
Sharrif Floyd, Florida : all around the DLine this guy excels
Kawaan Short, Purdue : Senior Bowl moved him into the late first we will not see him in the second RD at our pick.


SECOND ROUND DTs:

Jesse Williams, Alabama
Sylvester Williams, UNC
Brandon Williams, Missouri S. State

THIRD ROUND DTs:

Bennie Logan, LSU
Kwame Geathers, UGA


FOURTH ROUND DTs:

Jordan Hill, Penn St.
Akeem Spence, Illinois

FIFTH ROUND DTs:

Everett Dawkins, Florida St.

My personal opinion is DT/DE in the first, best value vs OLine

 

[Rack]

FIRST ROUND DTs: Can we pass on any of these guys at 18

Star Lotulelei, Utah : Star is a disruptive force and a load to handle for any guard or center one-on-one.
Sheldon Richardson, Missouri : Never stops exploding off the ball and into his opponent on every snap
John Jenkins, UGA Jenkins displays an impressive combination of power and grace.
Jonathan Hankins, Ohio St. : Has some intensity issues and runs out of gas
Sharrif Floyd, Florida : all around the DLine this guy excels
Kawaan Short, Purdue : Senior Bowl moved him into the late first we will not see him in the second RD at our pick.


SECOND ROUND DTs:

Jesse Williams, Alabama
Sylvester Williams, UNC
Brandon Williams, Missouri S. State

THIRD ROUND DTs:

Bennie Logan, LSU
Kwame Geathers, UGA


FOURTH ROUND DTs:

Jordan Hill, Penn St.
Akeem Spence, Illinois

FIFTH ROUND DTs:

Everett Dawkins, Florida St.

My personal opinion is DT/DE in the first, best value vs OLine

I'd put Jordan Hill in the 2nd or 3rd.


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[jobberone]

I didn't know Geathers was from the Georgetown clan. That'll be three in the NFL.

 

[Macnalty]

I'd put Jordan Hill in the 2nd or 3rd.


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RB I like his motor, 2nd seems ambitious, I am probably like you and think there is going to be a run on the Dlineman in this draft and that some will be picked earlier than we are slotting. In the second and third I would have a hard time picking him compared to the other talent. Of course I am no scout only a reader of the football media. My claim to fame last year was having Danny Coale in my mock. I did have Hanna as a UDFA.

 

[DBOY3141]

Wouldn't be surprised if Williams from UNC goes in the 1st. If he has a good combine, look out. He can play.

 

[jterrell]

Wouldn't be surprised if Williams from UNC goes in the 1st. If he has a good combine, look out. He can play.

in a normal year for DT maybe.

This year? Very doubtful. This is a creepysick class.

 

[RS12]

Star wont be there at 18 so: 1) Richardson has double digit sack ability.

2) Floyd also can collapse pocket

2A) Short maybe the best fit for this defense

 

[jterrell]

diff schemes will lead to diff rankings.

i will try to be scheme agnostic as possible here.

Star Lotulelei, Utah: Top 3-4 or 4-3 Nose Tackle. Had Ngata-like potential and strength.
Jonathan Hankins, Ohio St.: Could be dropped but size is a huge advantage here. Can play any DT spot.
Sheldon Richardson, Missouri : 3 tech or 3-4 DE. Very disruptive player. A lot of JJ Watt in him. Cocky as can be. Has swagger galore.
Kawaan Short, Purdue: Showed at Senior Bowl he could provide consistent effort and beat single-teams with ease.
John Jenkins, UGA: Looks the part and has tons of potential. Need to see more from him every down.
Sharrif Floyd, Florida: Great athlete who can play 3 positions in a 4-3. May not be dominant at any of them though. Will need more technique work. 3-4 DE could be a nice home.
Datone Jones: I think this guy can gain another 10 pounds and play a 3 Technique for you. So quick off ball inside. Reminds me of Ratliff with a bit less mass. Not an anchor guy but real value an inside pass rusher.

 

[Macnalty]

Star wont be there at 18 so: 1) Richardson has double digit sack ability.

2) Floyd also can collapse pocket

2A) Short maybe the best fit for this defense

Oh I agree Star will be gone in the top ten easily. I am in agreement with your rankings although I think Richardson would be the best fit for this defense.

 

[Macnalty]

diff schemes will lead to diff rankings.

i will try to be scheme agnostic as possible here.

Star Lotulelei, Utah: Top 3-4 or 4-3 Nose Tackle. Had Ngata-like potential and strength.
Jonathan Hankins, Ohio St.: Could be dropped but size is a huge advantage here. Can play any DT spot.
Sheldon Richardson, Missouri : 3 tech or 3-4 DE. Very disruptive player. A lot of JJ Watt in him. Cocky as can be. Has swagger galore.
Kawaan Short, Purdue: Showed at Senior Bowl he could provide consistent effort and beat single-teams with ease.
John Jenkins, UGA: Looks the part and has tons of potential. Need to see more from him every down.
Sharrif Floyd, Florida: Great athlete who can play 3 positions in a 4-3. May not be dominant at any of them though. Will need more technique work. 3-4 DE could be a nice home.
Datone Jones: I think this guy can gain another 10 pounds and play a 3 Technique for you. So quick off ball inside. Reminds me of Ratliff with a bit less mass. Not an anchor guy but real value an inside pass rusher.

I did not think of adding Datone Jones to the DT list. He could be a 3 technique and he really has a good motor.

 

[supercowboy8]

I did not think of adding Datone Jones to the DT list. He could be a 3 technique and he really has a good motor.

I would only want Jones at SDE but could slide to DT in the nickel

Also im sad to see Brandon Williams in the 2nd.
I have liked him since he was said to be a 5th.

 

[Risen Star]

1. Lotulelei
2. Richardson
3. S. Williams
4. Floyd
5. Short

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

IMO short is the best DT in this draft period . He has a burst that few men have at that size .

 

[Macnalty]

IMO short is the best DT in this draft period . He has a burst that few men have at that size .

Remember for the DT we need a great 3 technique and a road grader next to him playing the 5 technique, we know that the 3 technique is who will be driving the Delorean, he must be relentless and powerful to use a movie metaphor the plutonium for the flux capacitor. Short is high grade plutonium. Some of the others are Road Graders. I hope we have multiple options.

 

[Avery]

Star won't be there, but anybody else is a possibility.

Great DT draft and we can snag a good one.

 

[The Realist]

Sylvester Willams is 25 and this is a deep class.

Richardson is a bit of a head case.

Floyd is a safer pick.

 

[funkytown]

Star will be gone. Richardson will probably be gone, but would love to have him.


Short or Floyd could be the pick.

Hope to stay away from Hankins and Jenkins.

 

[xwalker]

I'm going to rank them based on how they fit the Cowboys scheme.

This is a pure talent ranking. Character considerations could eliminate some players.

Kiffin's scheme puts a premium on 1-gap penetrating types, even at the 1-tech.

I didn't include him, but DE Datone Jones could play the 3-tech.

Top Players for Kiffin's defense:
6-3 320 Star Lotulelei
6-3 295 Sheldon Richardson: Character issues?
6-3 308 Kawann Short: Work-Ethic issues?
6-3 303 Sharrif Floyd: It's a toss up between him and S. Williams.
6-3 313 Sylvester Williams
6-2 294 Jordan Hill: Good gap penetrator but anchor is questionable.
6-3 295 Bennie Logan
6-5 328 Montori Hughes: Quicker than I expected but not as strong.

Need to watch more game footage:
6-1 305 Akeem Spence
6-2 288 Everett Dawkins
6-1 313 Cory Grissom

Not a good fit in the scheme, IMO.
6-2 341 Brandon Williams: Would need go from 341 lbs to about 325 lbs.
6-3 320 Jesse Williams
6-4 359 John Jenkins
6-3 320 Johnathan Hankins
6-5 355 Kwame Geathers

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[Macnalty]

I'm going to rank them based on how they fit the Cowboys scheme.

This is a pure talent ranking. Character considerations could eliminate some players.

Kiffin's scheme puts a premium on 1-gap penetrating types, even at the 1-tech.

I didn't include him, but DE Datone Jones could play the 3-tech.

Top Players for Kiffin's defense:
6-3 320 Star Lotulelei
6-3 295 Sheldon Richardson: Character issues?
6-3 308 Kawann Short: Work-Ethic issues?
6-3 303 Sharrif Floyd: It's a toss up between him and S. Williams.
6-3 313 Sylvester Williams
6-2 294 Jordan Hill: Good gap penetrator but anchor is questionable.
6-3 295 Bennie Logan
6-5 328 Montori Hughes: Quicker than I expected but not as strong.

Need to watch more game footage:
6-1 305 Akeem Spence
6-2 288 Everett Dawkins
6-1 313 Cory Grissom

Not a good fit in the scheme, IMO.
6-2 341 Brandon Williams: Would need go from 341 lbs to about 325 lbs.
6-3 320 Jesse Williams
6-4 359 John Jenkins
6-3 320 Johnathan Hankins
6-5 355 Kwame Geathers

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Nice work my friend, I personally do not think we get a chance at Richardson at 18 even with his character issues, so for me the choice is Short or S Floyd I think it is early for Short and reasonable for Floyd at our pick as of late Jan. I think we are getting close to our pick if it is a Dlineman.

 

[cowboysooner]

I think Hankins would be a fine player in this defense. He can push the pocket enough to be worthwhile at mostly the 1 or if we play like Seattle or Denver the 5.