Leverage and a Colts fan

[DanteEXT]

He keeps calling me a homer since I do not agree with his assessment that the call was BS. He's adamant the Gurode FELL DOWN and that didn't gain any height since he essentially fell on Gurode.

And he stated that the other OL LIFTED Foster up on to Gurode's back.

 

[Reality]

He keeps calling me a homer since I do not agree with his assessment that the call was BS. He's adamant the Gurode FELL DOWN and that didn't gain any height since he essentially fell on Gurode.

And he stated that the other OL LIFTED Foster up on to Gurode's back.

Actually, if you go back and look at it, Gurode never moves at the snap of the ball. He just remains in his stance when the ball is snapped .. his hand was still on the ground in a set position in fact.

-Reality

 

[theogt]

Was it a correct call? Yes. Was it kind of a silly call in that situation? Yes. It was just a boneheaded move by the defender that helped cost them the game.

 

[dadymat]

tell him to send his complaints to the league office...they make the rules

 

[gbrittain]

He keeps calling me a homer since I do not agree with his assessment that the call was BS. He's adamant the Gurode FELL DOWN and that didn't gain any height since he essentially fell on Gurode.

And he stated that the other OL LIFTED Foster up on to Gurode's back.

That particular Colts fan is an idiot. He may not like the rule, but clearly the rule was violated. As clear as night and day.

 

[Danny White]

The head of officiating called it a "textbook" instance of Leverage. So that pretty much tells it all right there.

I think Pererria (sp?) can be biased in favor of his refs sometimes, but in this case, I guarantee you that 99.9% of the fans watching had no idea of how the rule is written (including Aikman and Buck), so you have to take the expert's word on it in that case. There are some obscure rules in the NFL, and the refs are paid to know them inside and out, and in this case, they did.

 

[Reality]

He keeps calling me a homer since I do not agree with his assessment that the call was BS. He's adamant the Gurode FELL DOWN and that didn't gain any height since he essentially fell on Gurode.

And he stated that the other OL LIFTED Foster up on to Gurode's back.

Leverage involves the usage of any player (your team or the other team) as a means to increase your height or reach in an attempt to block the kick.

It's really simple honestly .. you either split the blockers and drive between them, go around them or bull rush them and drive through them. It's not rocket science and most every football player that has ever played special teams knows that.

-Reality

 

[DanteEXT]

Actually, if you go back and look at it, Gurode never moves at the snap of the ball. He just remains in his stance when the ball is snapped .. his hand was still on the ground in a set position in fact.

-Reality

I've pointed that out. He doesn't see it. Claims Gurode was going low on the guy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Gurode's job to to be a brace behind the center's leg? If so, wouldn't trying to block a guy low in that situation be bad for a number of reasons?

 

[casmith07]

Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1 (O) states it is unsportsmanlike conduct for a player to jump or stand on a teammate or an opponent to block or attempt to block an opponent's kick.

The penalty is leaping if you gain leverage and then leap from a teammate or opponent to block or attempt to block an opponent's kick.

 

[bracey]

I guess it's illegal. Probably shouldn't be though.

 

[Reality]

I've pointed that out. He doesn't see it. Claims Gurode was going low on the guy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Gurode's job to to be a brace behind the center's leg? If so, wouldn't trying to block a guy low in that situation be bad for a number of reasons?

The fact that Gurode's hand never leaves the ground makes me think he wasn't ready for the snap honestly. Given he's done the same thing on offense it makes you wonder.

You are right though .. he's supposed to reinforce the center and block the center/guard and guard/tackle lanes. At the very least his hand should be off the ground and his arms in a more defensive/blocking position.

-Reality

 

[Yakuza Rich]

That particular Colts fan is an idiot. He may not like the rule, but clearly the rule was violated. As clear as night and day.

He'd be an idiot to not like the rule, too. That stuff has crippled both high school and college players. That's why the NFL and now HS and college don't allow for it anymore.





YR

 

[theogt]

I guess it's illegal. Probably shouldn't be though.

It has to be illegal. In blocking, the idea is obviously to get lower than your opponent to gain leverage. You shouldn't have to worry about your opponent jumping on top of your back to block a kick while you make your best attempt to actually block them.

 

[superpunk]

He should've jumped over Gurode, like Rat would have.

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

Pereira said it was textbook leverage, and he isn't on the NFL's payroll anymore so he has no reason to say it if it isn't true. Tell your Colts fan to man up and quit whining. Also, tell him you thought the pick and roll was just a basketball play, but that that's what the Cowboys did all day yesterday to Peyton "Down Syndrome face" Manning.

 

[DanteEXT]

Pereira said it was textbook leverage, and he isn't on the NFL's payroll anymore so he has no reason to say it if it isn't true. Tell your Colts fan to man up and quit whining. Also, tell him you thought the pick and roll was just a basketball play, but that that's what the Cowboys did all day yesterday to Peyton "Down Syndrome face" Manning.

http://multimedia.foxsports.com/m/video/35823061/online-ot-pereira-s-week-13-calls.htm?r_src=ramp

I linked him this video of him explaining it. He made fun of the video. Claimed there WAS a reason why the waited to zoom in on it until after the player was on the guys back (assume he was iterating that they didn't show Gurode going for a low block he claims he was attempting).

 

[bracey]

It has to be illegal. In blocking, the idea is obviously to get lower than your opponent to gain leverage. You shouldn't have to worry about your opponent jumping on top of your back to block a kick while you make your best attempt to actually block them.

Why not? There's more to blocking than just getting lower than your opponent.

 

[theogt]

Why not? There's more to blocking than just getting lower than your opponent.

Preventing them from jumping on top of you isn't and shouldn't be a concern when you're attempting to block someone on a FG attempt.

 

[superpunk]

I think the bottom line is if this rule wasn't there I guarantee some of our nimbler athletes would find a way to vault themselves off of the offensive linemen in order to attempt the block - which would actually be completely awesome.

 

[gbrittain]

He'd be an idiot to not like the rule, too. That stuff has crippled both high school and college players. That's why the NFL and now HS and college don't allow for it anymore.





YR

Most definitely TRUE.