Location? AZ

[5Stars]

What does anyone think about the location in Arizona will make any difference for the teams?

Lot's of NFC fans down that way...any advantage for either team?

I would think it would not be an advantage for the Pats.

 

[Hostile]

Tedy Bruschi is pretty much adored here.

 

[Big Dakota]

They could play in Morocco and it wouldn't matter.

 

[5Stars]

They could play in Morocco and it wouldn't matter.

True....

All the fans that go to the SB are Super Rich anyway...so it don't matter.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

What does anyone think about the location in Arizona will make any difference for the teams?

Lot's of NFC fans down that way...any advantage for either team?

I would think it would not be an advantage for the Pats.

I live in Phoenix. There will be no advantage for any particular group of fans. The east coast isn't represented very well out here. This is California and Midwest country (particularly Chicago and Wisconsin). If the Packers made it, this game would have been a homefield advantage for the Packers since there are more Packer fans here than any other group including Cowboy and Cardinal fans.

 

[BigBlacKahuna]

I live in Phoenix. There will be no advantage for any particular group of fans. The east coast isn't represented very well out here. This is California and Midwest country (particularly Chicago and Wisconsin). If the Packers made it, this game would have been a homefield advantage for the Packers since there are more Packer fans here than any other group including Cowboy and Cardinal fans.

I live in Phoenix too, actually right down the street from the Stadium. From what i've seen, there are way more Cowboys fans here than any other team as evidenced by last years Cowboys/Cardinals game here. The whole stadium was a sea of blue, and I was right there on the field on the Cowboys sideline due to the fact that I work security for the stadium.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

I live in Phoenix too, actually right down the street from the Stadium. From what i've seen, there are way more Cowboys fans here than any other team as evidenced by last years Cowboys/Cardinals game here. The whole stadium was a sea of blue, and I was right there on the field on the Cowboys sideline due to the fact that I work security for the stadium.

There was a recent ESPN poll that asked which playoff teams was going to win the NFC and the majority of Arizona residents picked the Packers to win. I've been to a Cardinal/Packers games as well and you see the same theme of Packer fans overcrowding the stadium. I've been to all the Cowboy/Cardinals games since I've been here and I can't tell the difference between the fan support from Green Bay fans and Cowboy fans. They are both strong and dominant. I go to a lot of different bars and there are more Packer fans at the popular bars like Zipps, Fox Sports Grill, McDuffys, Fox n the Hound and Jillies than Cowboy fans. It's also much easier to find a Packer bar and Packer fan groups than their Cowboy alternatives. I know Hostile will disagree with me. He believes there are a lot more Cowboy fans but they are less public. I don't know, it's hard for me to say that when I've been in the trenches here and haven't seen the Cowboy support unless the Cowboys are playing here. That's the only time I feel the Cowboy nation rise here, otherwise, they are just dormant.

Oh yeah, I was at that game and it wasn't a sea of blue in my opinion. It was nearly 50/50 Cardinals and Cowboy fans. At Sundevil Stadium, it was nearly all Cowboy fans.

 

[Doomsday101]

What does anyone think about the location in Arizona will make any difference for the teams?

Lot's of NFC fans down that way...any advantage for either team?

I would think it would not be an advantage for the Pats.

I don't see an advantage for either team based on the stadium. Hell most of these tickets will go to people who just want to be part of the game. Most true fans can't afford the ticket.

 

[Seven]

There was a recent ESPN poll that asked which playoff teams was going to win the NFC and the majority of Arizona residents picked the Packers to win. I've been to a Cardinal/Packers games as well and you see the same theme of Packer fans overcrowding the stadium. I've been to all the Cowboy/Cardinals games since I've been here and I can't tell the difference between the fan support from Green Bay fans and Cowboy fans. They are both strong and dominant. I go to a lot of different bars and there are more Packer fans at the popular bars like Zipps, Fox Sports Grill, McDuffys, Fox n the Hound and Jillies than Cowboy fans. It's also much easier to find a Packer bar and Packer fan groups than their Cowboy alternatives. I know Hostile will disagree with me. He believes there are a lot more Cowboy fans but they are less public. I don't know, it's hard for me to say that when I've been in the trenches here and haven't seen the Cowboy support unless the Cowboys are playing here. That's the only time I feel the Cowboy nation rise here, otherwise, they are just dormant.

Oh yeah, I was at that game and it wasn't a sea of blue in my opinion. It was nearly 50/50 Cardinals and Cowboy fans. At Sundevil Stadium, it was nearly all Cowboy fans.

No. It wasn't. As amatter of fact it seems to me there are now more Cardinal fans since the stadium was built. I used to go to Sun Devil Stadium and back then it was more Dallas. However I think there is such an influx of out of state folks living here that there really is no particular fan base.

I think Dallas lost a portion of their "fandom" when the Cards left the division. No more guaranteed two game action. Less t.v. time as well. It's damn near impossible to get a Cowboys game on the tele via local stations.

BTW.......Good post Mr. woods.

 

[sbuscha]

I live in Arizona and there are alot of Cowboys fans due to the fact that when there was not a team here (physically) they would show either San Fransico Games or Cowboys games. I have been to the Dallas/Cardinal games and there are always far more fans; however we do get a lot of winter visitor's from the mid west...

 

[mr.jameswoods]

I think Dallas lost a portion of their "fandom" when the Cards left the division. No more guaranteed two game action. Less t.v. time as well. It's damn near impossible to get a Cowboys game on the tele via local stations.

BTW.......Good post Mr. woods.

Also, many Cowboy fans are Hispanic. The Hispanic sports fans in the Phoenix metro are known to support the Lakers and Yankees too. I think part of that is due to socioeconomic reasons because many in the Hispanic community are poor and thus root for the champion or best team in the country as a symbol of pride so it's not uncommon to see Hispanic people wear Cowboys, Yankees and Laker gear all at the same time. A lot of them didn't grow up rooting for one team or "inherit" their fandom from their parents so many of them stopped supporting Dallas as they slumped in the late 90's and early 2000's. If you live in Phoenix, you probably know what I'm talking about.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

I live in Arizone and there are alot of Cowboys fans due to the fact that when there was not a team here (physically) they would show either San Fransico Games or Cowboys games. I have been to the Dallas/Cardinal games and there are always far more fans; however we do get a lot of winter visitor's from the mid west...

Those are not visitors. Those are residents. People move here from the midwest because of the weather. Aside from California, the majority of people moving here are from those upper midwest states like Illinois and Wisconsin. That's why there are so many Bears, Packers and Vikings fans

 

[Bonecrusher#31]

Tedy Bruschi is pretty much adored here.

Phoenix cames nothing from Tucson.........

 

[sbuscha]

Those are not visitors. Those are residents. People move here from the midwest because of the weather. Aside from California, the majority of people moving here are from those upper midwest states like Illinois and Wisconsin. That's why there are so many Bears, Packers and Vikings fans

Go to the Golf course durning the winter and tell me how many Wisconsin license plates with a Packers sticker in the windows of these cars you count and tell me they are not visitor's. Hence the term "snow bird".

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Go to the Golf course durning the winter and tell me how many Wisconsin license plates with a Packers sticker in the windows of these cars you count and tell me they are not visitor's. Hence the term "snow bird".

Go out to eat some time and check out some of our more well known restaurants and sports bars. Does Oreganos, Chicago Dog, Tom's BBQ and Payton's Place ring a bell? Yeah, they were all started by people from Chicago. You think that's a coincidence.

License plates meaning nothing. A lot of people have lived here for years and not changed their plates. That's Phoenix in general. I didn't change my plates for 2 years. And in regards to those "visitors", these snowbirds own homes and live here 7-8 months out of the year; that's not what I would call a visitor. A visitor is someone who stays with you during the hollidays

150,000 people move to the valley each year, you think they are all snowbirds? Guess again

 

[sbuscha]

Go out to eat some time and check out some of our restaurants. Does Oreganos, Chicago Dog, Tom's BBQ and Payton's Place ring a bell...yeah, they are popular places that were started by Chicago people. You think that's a coincidence.

License plates meaning nothing. A lot of people have lived here for years and not changed their plates. That's Phoenix in general. I didn't change my plates for 2 years. And in regards to those "visitors", these snowbirds own homes and live here 7-8 months out of the year; that's not what I would call a visitor. A visitor is someone who stays with you during the holliday and leaves after a week.

150,000 people move to the valley each year, you think they are all snowbirds. Guess again

Wisconsin plates with a packers stickeron the car does not mean anything? Wow, you must like to argue with people on this forum. I just read another post where you were doing the same thing. Chill out man. I could care less where a "franchised" resturant is located. All that means is business is good and then have started other locations, ever h eard of McDonalds (who cares?). Anyway, I am done arguing with you...

My point is there are alot of winter visitors in Phoneix from the 4 cities area. Try the US 60 in the summer compared to the winter.