Lockout: Players Breaking Point?

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Same question but in reverse.

Just curious what points people feel strong enough about for them personally to accept a lockout as a hypothetical player ?

What specific issues would force you to get to the point to say, "I have to step away from this situation and let this lockout happen", because you feel so strongly about these debating points ?

Looking forward to your opinions. Thanks.
 
When mama wants a pedicure and the response is, "Sorry honey, we have to watch our spending, we don't know how long this is going to last. By the way, we're having Grilled cheese sandwiches again tonight, but tonight we splurge, we get kool aide."

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Mr. Smith, mama needs a pedicure!
 
As a player I would want my Union to be fighting hardest for benefits for former players (because I will one day be one), a Rookie wage scale, a higher salary cap, and a higher salary floor.

Give me those things and if I am not happy then you might as well just assume I am a worthless individual in the first place.
 
Hostile;3880603 said:
As a player I would want my Union to be fighting hardest for benefits for former players (because I will one day be one), a Rookie wage scale, a higher salary cap, and a higher salary floor.

Give me those things and if I am not happy then you might as well just assume I am a worthless individual in the first place.

To the point where you sacrifice your own financial gain as a player, for your immediate future and your family ? So take the loss now to wrap up the future ?
 
SkinsandTerps;3880620 said:
To the point where you sacrifice your own financial gain as a player, for your immediate future and your family ? So take the loss now to wrap up the future ?
I could take the vet minimum salaries and have a 2 year career and end up set for life. I don't understand how these guys end up bankrupt. Never have. So your answer is yes.
 
Hostile;3880776 said:
I could take the vet minimum salaries and have a 2 year career and end up set for life. I don't understand how these guys end up bankrupt. Never have. So your answer is yes.

This.
 
Let's see, the procedural approach to solutions, when articulated through contracts...

To point out pitfalls in process, I compare back to the military....


To accept promotion at the end of a twenty year career, one has to accept being extended beyond the normal retirement entitlement.

Is that a valid requirement for promotion? Then on top of that, an overseas tour is tacked upon the 'extension' that now mandates a two year period beyond the established point of twenty years.

The Spouse contacts cancer, and can not make it through the ordeal without the Service member there for the year and hospitalizations and medications/procedures.

At twenty years exactly, the service member now must accept a Seperation Bonus elimination instead...but finishes his twenty years. A retirement would NOT be allowed for him due to his promotion.

Uncle Sam now gives instead, a one payment amount equal to about what he would receive in the first five years of actual retirement. Then Uncle Same takes away about 1/3rd of that Seperation Bonus as income tax.

Now, instead of continued medical and facility access due all retirees, he has none.

The seriviceman has now risked his life and served the required time for respect being given him, and that is shut off.

At the exiting from active service, that member requests and receives a 25% Disability Rating at THAT point...which will only grow over time.

Now, since Disability and Retirements are considered from the same pot in Governmental eyes, he is entitled to monthly disability payments when the departing Seperation Bonus is paid BACK.

Wooohooo, at age 72, my Seperation Bonus will be paid back in full...and I can THEN start to receive the Disability Monthly Payments.

At that point, I will have paid back what amounts to a personal loan that I was taxed for 1/3rd of the proceeds...denied retirement, as well as disability payments.




If given the choice of two years and a guaranteed future both in monetary return and no strike health support...then there is NO question at all.
 
I don't see the players hitting the breaking point at this time, guys will not miss a pay check until the season starts. Those who will be more on the antsy side to get a deal done are the FA
 
when the groupies leave, or about the second paycheck missed.
 
The players are in a difficult position, since there are so many of them in radically different financial situations. While they might want to do good things in principle, their own finances and natural self-interest will eventually wear them down if the owners can lock them out for any extended period.

But issue-wise, I suspect most players -- especially those at the beginning of a career or in their prime -- don't get beyond the higher salary cap/higher salary floor items. It'll take the older veterans or guys dealing with injuries to think about retirement and health-related issues.

But with that broad spectrum of players with different needs and concerns, it's going to be hard for them to hold together. Goodell's letter may have gotten sneers from some players, but I bet others are saying that the owners' offer sounded like a deal they could live with.
 

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