Looking For Starters at the Right Positions

kskboys

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I just don't see the value at the DT position at 26, I think it will be an offensive player either, TE, or G, before a DT
The "value" for TE at 26 is even worse, a lot worse.

W/ DT, it all depends on who is there. Bresee, for instance. Kancey, Benton, either would completely revamp our D.
 

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The "value" for TE at 26 is even worse, a lot worse.

W/ DT, it all depends on who is there. Bresee, for instance. Kancey, Benton, either would completely revamp our D.
This draft has 4 or 5 high end TE's, difference makers to open up this offense......don't see a great DT being there at 26...especially when this organization prefers "versatile" DT's which I also don't get!
 

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This draft has 4 or 5 high end TE's, difference makers to open up this offense......don't see a great DT being there at 26...especially when this organization prefers "versatile" DT
Agree. The only DT that really is highly rated is Carter, and if he falls to us that means SOMETHING bad has happened.
 

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I just don't see the value at the DT position at 26, I think it will be an offensive player either, TE, or G, before a DT
You never know who could fall but the odds of a complete DT falling is slim
Defensively I’d say looking at this draft at 26 the best odds of a defensive player being close to BPA is probably CB
But I think you are dead on, the odds are much better of the quality being at Guard, TE or maybe WR
 

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I have seen several mocks that has Dallas taking Kancey in the 2nd or 3rd round. I have not done much research to see where he is projected to go, as to any rankings.
So not sure how good or accurate those mocks were.
 

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not going to trade out of the first round, teams value the fifth year option too much
If there are no players left on the cowboys board with a round one grade then I am sure they look at it...the question is if there is a player there with a 1 grade of which they usually have 15 to 20.

They also have some room to move back 4 or 5 spots and still get a guy technically
 

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I could easily picture a promising DT being available when our turn comes at pick 26. I can just as easily see this team passing him up. One fine day, maybe the staff will finally see the light and choose to put a premium on a promising DT. Hopefully, it'll happen soon. We tend to look for our highest impact positions first, however. Perhaps in the rounds that follow, we'll see about that?!
It'd surprise many of us, myself included. It's time to stabilize our run coverage. :huh:
 
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Unless something has changed they will not draft a DT in round 1. Maybe if a guy falls due to character concerns or something his leg gets amputated.
 

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If there are no players left on the cowboys board with a round one grade then I am sure they look at it...the question is if there is a player there with a 1 grade of which they usually have 15 to 20.

They also have some room to move back 4 or 5 spots and still get a guy technically
The Cowboys will easily be able to trade down and still get their guy.

I'd rather do that then reach and over draft someone just because you want the 5th year option. That sounds dumb.
 

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Given there is no center likely to be better than Biadasz this draft, I don't see any OT or OG available at 26 breaking the top 5 of Smith, Smith, Martin, Steele, and Biadasz. Maybe beat out Steele but only marginal improvement.

Bijan Robinson comes in and creates the best RB tandem in the league with Pollard. He will replace Dowdle/Davis and significantly raise the talent ceiling.
Mazi Smith comes in and may or may not help the pass rush but he will "start" as a 2 down player and go a long way towards solidifying the LOS and improving the defense. He replaces Gallimore/Watkins and significantly raises the talent ceiling.

TE and WR have a lesser impact. Mayer for example I would expect to be at about the level of where Ferguson is now. He is better than Hendershot but Hendershot is already effective down the seam and in the redzone. Neither is a good drive blocker. A guy like Kincaid would lock down the Y and help create push but is not a dynamic threat.

Gallup and Tolbert were pretty underwhelming last season. WR are so hard to evaluate because of different systems and what they ask of their pass catchers. It's not as bad as when Leach was running around and most WR could only run 3 routes and garner 1200 yard seasons but it's still not easy.

There are a lot of those guys in the draft. The ones that have polish like the OSU receiver are limited in size and perimeter experience. I just don't see a lot of good fits at WR.
 

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This draft has 4 or 5 high end TE's, difference makers to open up this offense......don't see a great DT being there at 26...especially when this organization prefers "versatile" DT's which I also don't get!
You claimed the "value" wasn't there. You weren't discussing talent.

Completely disagree that the TEs available to us would be difference makers.

Kincaid might be, though he's not a great blocker.

Who are you considering major difference makers at TE? Not sure that Fergie isn't better than all of them.
 

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You never know who could fall but the odds of a complete DT falling is slim
Defensively I’d say looking at this draft at 26 the best odds of a defensive player being close to BPA is probably CB
But I think you are dead on, the odds are much better of the quality being at Guard, TE or maybe WR
The TEs available at 26 are not complete TEs, so why do you consider them better?

I actually agree that CB or WR might be the best available for us. Hurts me to say it, but it could be so.
 

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This draft has 4 or 5 high end TE's, difference makers to open up this offense......don't see a great DT being there at 26...especially when this organization prefers "versatile" DT's which I also don't get!
Who told you there are 4-5 difference makers at TE? How do they define "difference makers"?

The biggest difference maker that might be available to us is RB Charbonnet. Now, there's some value.
 

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Who told you there are 4-5 difference makers at TE? How do they define "difference makers"?

The biggest difference maker that might be available to us is RB Charbonnet. Now, there's some value.
not taking Charbonnet in the first round....and this is the best tight end class in years...
 

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You claimed the "value" wasn't there. You weren't discussing talent.

Completely disagree that the TEs available to us would be difference makers.

Kincaid might be, though he's not a great blocker.

Who are you considering major difference makers at TE? Not sure that Fergie isn't better than all of them.
There's about 20 first round grades in this draft, Fergie isn't better than Hendershot, those two are not difference makers on offense, they're just guys, I don't care about a blocking TE in todays game, it's about weapons and stretching the field, Great TE's are a nightmare to cover in today's game......Kincaid, Musgrave, Mayer, Washington, all four and infinitely better than Fergie, Hendershot, McKeon...
 
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