Looks Like Senate Judiciary Comittee Will Investigate Spygate...

CaptainAmerica

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...Interesting story. It might be a waste of taxpayer money but it's interesting to watch. Also, it's obvious all the NFL owners just want this thing to go away. This story has cover-up written all over it and from the way it looks, the whole league was in on it. Notice how the Steelers now release a statement supporting Goodell.

Also, a very interesting revelation is that an NFL security rep is snooping around on Walsh but Goodell told Specter he didn't know it was being done.

The plot thickens. :D
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Specter: Goodell's Spygate explanations don't pass scrutiny
By Mike Fish
ESPN.com

Updated: February 15, 2008, 1:09 PM ET

A day after meeting with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in Washington, Sen. Arlen Specter said he continues to be troubled by a number of issues surrounding the league's handling of Spygate and will continue his investigation.

Specter, R-Pa., told ESPN.com that Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., offered support Thursday for his inquiry into the New England Patriots' questionable videotaping practices, saying Leahy is "prepared to have the committee pay for people who travel and investigate." Leahy sat in on a part of Wednesday's session with Goodell and league counsel, Specter said.

Sen. Arlen Specter, ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, calls Roger Goodell's reasoning for the destroying of the Spygate evidence "absurd."
"I'm determined to go forward," said Specter, the ranking Republican on the Judiciary Committee. "You have answers and positions where [Goodell] is saying that with the destruction of tapes that, 'We did the right thing. We're absolutely sure.'

"Well, that is absurd … Goodell says things that don't make sense."


Among the issues that continue to trouble Specter:


• Goodell's imposition of a penalty -- the loss of a first-round draft pick, a $500,000 fine to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and a $250,000 fine to the team -- before the Pats had turned over evidence, including notes dating to 2002 and six tapes from the 2006 season and 2007 preseason, requested by the league. The Patriots were caught videotaping defensive signals from the sideline in their Sept. 9 season opener against the New York Jets. The commissioner imposed his penalty on Sept. 13, four days before New England provided the tapes and notes.


"Did they know the scope of the wrongdoing before the penalty was imposed?" asked Specter, a former Philadelphia district attorney. "The answer is no."


NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said in response Thursday that Goodell's swift punishment stemmed from the fact that the Patriots had been caught at the Jets game and from Belichick's admission that he had been taping signals since he became New England's coach in 2000. Belichick reportedly told Goodell that he thought he was within the rules to tape other team's signals as long as the information wasn't used in the game at hand.


"[Goodell] issued the discipline as quickly as he could to send a strong message to teams that this wouldn't be tolerated and there'd be a severe penalty if you violated the rules," Aiello said. "The discipline included they had to turn over everything they had related to that taping procedure."


Specter heard that explanation from Goodell on Wednesday. On Thursday, Specter said, "The words absurd and ridiculous keep coming to my mind because he [Goodell] says it with a straight face."


• Specter said it was unsettling to learn that the tapes, as well as notes, turned over by the Patriots in September had been destroyed in Foxborough, Mass., rather than in the league's New York offices. Aiello said that the documents and tapes were destroyed after they were reviewed by NFL officials Jeffrey Pash and Ray Anderson and that the call to destroy the material came from Goodell, saying "There's no further use for it, so he said get rid of it."



Nobody could use those -- they are scrap paper -- except [as] evidence.
-- Sen. Arlen Specter, on the notion Spygate materials were destroyed to avoid a competitive advantage
Specter said the league's suggestion that the material, particularly the notes dating to the 2002 season, was destroyed because it might have afforded a competitive advantage is unbelievable.


"Everything has changed," he said. "Nobody could use those -- they are scrap paper -- except [as] evidence."


With the evidence destroyed, Specter said there is no way to tell what advantage the Patriots might have gained in the illegal taping practice.


• Specter is particularly concerned about how the taping might have affected New England's games involving teams from his home state in the 2004 postseason.


In a preseason opener in August of that year at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough, the Patriots and the Philadelphia Eagles played in what proved to be a preview of the 2005 Super Bowl, which was won by the Patriots 24-21. And in an Oct. 31 regular-season game in Pittsburgh, the Steelers beat the Patriots 34-20. Those two teams later met in the AFC title game, which New England won 41-27.


Later Thursday, the Steelers released a statement that read: "We consider the tapes of our coaching staff during our games against the New England Patriots to be a nonissue. In our opinion, they had no impact on the results of those games. The Steelers fully support the manner in which commissioner Goodell handled the situation and the discipline that he levied against those who violated league rules. We are confident that the commissioner has taken appropriate action in his investigation of this matter, and will do so again if new information arises which requires further investigation and/or discipline."



• Specter believes the NFL hasn't gone far enough in its offer of legal protection to former Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh, who has suggested to ESPN.com that he has potentially embarrassing information about the team's taping practices.



The league has offered to indemnify Walsh against exposure to a lawsuit from the Patriots, but the proposal stipulates that Walsh must tell the truth and return anything he took improperly. Under those conditions, the team still could file suit against Walsh even after he turns over evidence to the Patriots and league.


"Matt Walsh is an important guy, and they have made it so conditional," Specter said. "All they [have] to do is say, 'We're not going to sue you.' It is not a big deal."


Specter said he has spoken with Walsh's attorney three times in the past two days and understands that Walsh is "scared." He said the Judiciary Committee could afford Walsh immunity if Walsh ever were summoned to testify at a Senate hearing. He described both Walsh and Walsh's attorney as "cooperative."


• Specter said he was concerned to learn from Walsh's attorney that an NFL security representative, Dick Farley, had been investigating Walsh. Specter said: "I confronted them on that, and Goodell says, 'Yeah, he [Farley] works for us. Yeah, he is a security guy, but we didn't know he was investigating him.' "


Aiello said Thursday that it is an overstatement to suggest the league is investigating Walsh.


"The only thing we're doing is looking at public records and trying to verify his employment history in an effort to learn about him," Aiello said.


Mike Fish is an investigative reporter for ESPN.com. He can be reached at michaeljfish@gmail.com.
 

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I'm thrilled that my tax money is going towards this and the Mitchell report.

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Meh. To me there are simply far more important things that they should be doing than looking into an NFL scandal. Waste of time for the Government to be involved in this in any manner or fashion.
 

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Hostile;1957301 said:
I'm thrilled that my tax money is going towards this and the Mitchell report.

At least they are doing something.

It's not a choice between (a) this and (b) fixing healthcare or whatever.

It's more likely a choice between (a) this and (b) Senator off in Florida playing golf or at a fundraiser.

Football and baseball are national trusts. I don't mind the government asserting some oversight over it. They are important parts of this country even if they are entertainment at their core.
 

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cobra;1957308 said:
It's more likely a choice between (a) this and (b) Senator off in Florida playing golf or at a fundraiser.

qft....if you think this sort of thing is taking away from Congress's valuable time that would otherwise be spent solving the greater problems of the world, you've got another thing coming.
 

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If there's corruption in any multibillion-dollar industry, I'm sure the government has a duty to investigate.
 

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Well it was Congress who granted the NFL an Antitrust exemption related to it's broadcast contracts, so why should they stay out of this issue? The Antitrust exemption is one of the main reasons the NFL has been allowed to grow into the muti-billion dollar business it is today.
 

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AdamJT13;1957316 said:
If there's corruption in any multibillion-dollar industry, I'm sure the government has a duty to investigate.

What are you talking about? The government shouldn't interfere in monopolies, embezzlement, fraudulent claims by private companies, because the government has better things to do.... They also shouldn't deal with insider trader...
 

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Eh....whatever.

At least it will give the NFL a black eye.
 

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If the NFL cant police itself properly or chooses to only lay the law down heavy when they see fit, then go Congress go. And like cobra said, quit acting like they stopped addressing the never ending problems with this country cause in their spare time, they're putting an organization in check that they gave the Antitrust law in the first place.
 

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AdamJT13;1957316 said:
If there's corruption in any multibillion-dollar industry, I'm sure the government has a duty to investigate.


Agreed!!! It they want their exemption, they better run an above board deal.
 

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Hostile;1957301 said:
I'm thrilled that my tax money is going towards this and the Mitchell report.

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LOL yeah I guess the war,and the economy is not enough to handle...
 

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ctrous25;1957345 said:
LOL yeah I guess the war,and the economy is not enough to handle...

Could you answer this question for me. What exactly does the judiciary committee have to do with the War and the economy?
 

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If they go thru all the motions and The Pats get a slap on the hand ,THEN, it's a waste of time.

The penalty (if found guilty) better be substantial or it's all BS.:mad:
 

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Hostile;1957301 said:
I'm thrilled that my tax money is going towards this and the Mitchell report.

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Spector is just pissed that his Eagles got beat by the Pats in the bowl and it is payback time.

Spector is not going to let this go until the Pats get bent over, if you know what I mean.:D
 

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CaptainAmerica;1957318 said:
Well it was Congress who granted the NFL an Antitrust exemption related to it's broadcast contracts, so why should they stay out of this issue? The Antitrust exemption is one of the main reasons the NFL has been allowed to grow into the muti-billion dollar business it is today.

I'm just wondering what the purpose in all of this is

throw Belicheat in jail?

disband the Patriots?

this isn't like the steroid scandal where MLB players were denying that it was prevalent, and Selig was dragging his feet to do anything about it, but the NFL has acknowledged the Pat's cheating, and have punished them, not as harsh as they could have, but still, seems like a big waste to me
 

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AdamJT13;1957316 said:
If there's corruption in any multibillion-dollar industry, I'm sure the government has a duty to investigate.

Exactly. This is a HUGE corporation.
 

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I don't mind the investigation. But the end result better justify everything. I don't want the Pats being found guilty of more things only to be let off the hook.
 

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big dog cowboy;1957749 said:
I don't mind the investigation. But the end result better justify everything. I don't want the Pats being found guilty of more things only to be let off the hook.

and I hope the end isn't the Pats being just knocked an additional 1st round pick

but at least everyone would get what they want

oh, and the 5 game suspension for Belicheat
 
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