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[MarionBarberThe4th]

1. Carolina - Andrew Luck

*DEN Trades 2 to Washington for 10, a 4th and next years 1st*

2. Washington - Cam Newton

3. BUF - Nick Fairley

4. CIN - AJ Green

5. ARI - Robert Quinn

*CLE swaps w/ Dallas for Martelleus Bennet a 4th, and a 2012 4th *
Cleveland needs to get McCoy some new toys and after missing out on a chance at AJ Green target Julio Jones at #9.


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Cowboys sign Tyson Clabo(RT) and Champ Bailey(FS)

Make the usual cuts

6. Dallas - Patrick Peterson - Come on

2nd - Stephen Wisniewski - C - Penn State - Nick Mangold in the middle of our line. Gurode moves to guard where he doesnt have to think anymore.

3rd - Ryan Broyles - WR/RS - OK - Like this guy. 5'11", 180, he reminds me of Steve Smith(NYG). He can be the main returner to keep Dez fresh for the sporadic return opportunities he gets. The perfect slot WR after Roy is cut

5th - Marcus Gilbert - T/G - Florida - Experience at guard and tackle. Probably a guard

6th - Alex Henery - K - Nebraska - Just bite the bullet and you dont have to worry about it for years. Youll appreciate it later

Trade both 7th's for a 6th

6th - Jarvis Jenkins - DE - Clemson - See some production there

UDFA - Jon Freeney - OLB - RU
UDFA - Jock Sanders - RS/WR - WV
UFFA - Armando Allen - RB - ND

Still think we need a little depth at some spots but between FA and this draft I think we upgraded at 6 starting positions.

Bailey starting at FS, Peterson at SS.

Clabo at RT, Wiz at C, Gurode to RG

Henery at kicker

 

[TheCount]

I don't like it.

Getting Peterson is great and all, but the rest of the draft I'm not a huge fan off.

Also as far as I know, we only have 1 7th round pick. We get the pick for Crayton but we used the pick this year in last years supplemental to get Brent.

But mostly there are just too many moving parts here to end up with what to me seems like a pretty average draft.

 

[DBOY3141]

Peterson is not a SS.

Champ can't stay healthy at CB, you expect him to hold up being a FS?

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Peterson is not a SS.

Champ can't stay healthy at CB, you expect him to hold up being a FS?

Champs missed 11 games in 12 seasons

Peterson can play SS just fine

And in nickel Newman can move to the slot, Peterson/Champ can play corner, and Champ/Peterson play single high

 

[KingintheNorth]

People keep mentioning that a certain CB (Newman or Champ) can barely stay healthy at CB so they can't handle Safety..I have to ask, did you ever play?

CB is one of the most physically demanding positions in the game. You are making a hard backpedal for 5 to 10 yards on almost every play. You plant and change direction constantly. You are almost always fighting through blocks to make tackles.

Safeties take a soft backpedal and read the play before making cuts. They usually are in space and have clean shots at ball carriers.

CB is an extremely tough and demanding position. Safeties need to be physical hitters but they have more choices than a CB who has to try to take out the legs of pulling linemen to get to the RB.

 

[BAT]

Wisniewski is no Nick Mangold. His best pro position may just be OG. And there would be better OGs at the top of the 2nd than Wisniewski.

Don't like the value of that pick.

 

[esmith1790]

Washington doesnt have a 4th round pick this year.

 

[realtick]

3rd - Ryan Broyles - WR/RS - OK - Like this guy. 5'11", 180, he reminds me of Steve Smith(NYG). He can be the main returner to keep Dez fresh for the sporadic return opportunities he gets. The perfect slot WR after Roy is cut

I really like Broyles; he's just a smooth polished wide receiver. Reminds me a bit of Greg Jennings.

Man, I just don't know if the Cowboys will go wide receiver that early. I'm sure they'll be touting the development of guys like Ogletree and Manny Johnson.

 

[casmith07]

Brutal draft outside of the Peterson pick.

 

[casmith07]

People keep mentioning that a certain CB (Newman or Champ) can barely stay healthy at CB so they can't handle Safety..I have to ask, did you ever play?

CB is one of the most physically demanding positions in the game. You are making a hard backpedal for 5 to 10 yards on almost every play. You plant and change direction constantly. You are almost always fighting through blocks to make tackles.

Safeties take a soft backpedal and read the play before making cuts. They usually are in space and have clean shots at ball carriers.

CB is an extremely tough and demanding position. Safeties need to be physical hitters but they have more choices than a CB who has to try to take out the legs of pulling linemen to get to the RB.

But I've read it right here from all of these experts that our CBs are supposed to break up or intercept every pass, or use their ESP skills to predict the routes before they happen and stick to them like a video game cornerback on the All-Madden difficulty.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

No thanks on Broyles. I don't care for a WR that early,
Also if the recent bowl game is any indication of his normal
Play...I will pass because he looks like a fumble waiting
To happen.

 

[fishspill]

No thanks on Broyles. I don't care for a WR that early,
Also if the recent bowl game is any indication of his normal
Play...I will pass because he looks like a fumble waiting
To happen.

Broyles ball security is normally a lot better. That and the 2 muffs on punts in the Big 12 title game (or it might have been OSU) were out of the ordinary. I couldn't find concrete stats on fumbles but I don't remember it being an issue with him.

I'll say it again. He is Wes Welker.

He is also my pet cat. So y'all will have to be sensible for me.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

It would cost more than Marty B + a 4th to move up and I wouldn't even give that up.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

People keep mentioning that a certain CB (Newman or Champ) can barely stay healthy at CB so they can't handle Safety..I have to ask, did you ever play?

CB is one of the most physically demanding positions in the game. You are making a hard backpedal for 5 to 10 yards on almost every play. You plant and change direction constantly. You are almost always fighting through blocks to make tackles.

Safeties take a soft backpedal and read the play before making cuts. They usually are in space and have clean shots at ball carriers.

CB is an extremely tough and demanding position. Safeties need to be physical hitters but they have more choices than a CB who has to try to take out the legs of pulling linemen to get to the RB.

CB is definitely demanding, and takes a better athlete, but of course safety is a more physical position. CBs don't have to come up and fill a hole with a tailback coming right downhill at them.

I'm very anti "take a CB and make him a S", though. They are two different positions. Why not take a guy who has actually played the position his entire life instead of converting someone else?

 

[windward]

I'd like us to at least address ILB this draft.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

It would cost more than Marty B + a 4th to move up and I wouldn't even give that up.

Word? I think Marty, a 4th, and a 2012 4th isnt too bad for Peterson. The difference between Peterson and lets say Dareus at 9 is huge IMO.

Why not take a guy who has actually played the position his entire life instead of converting someone else?

B/C Peterson is the best safety and the Cowboys biggest hole is safety. Id say its a nice match

I'd like us to at least address ILB this draft.

Thats definitely a hole left w/ this mock. I chose to address the starting safeties and the O-line and neglected LB, and RB. And I even used a TE to trade up. Its all about prioritizing.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Put it this way, you covet Peterson, so would you trade down with him on the board for 2 4th round picks and a TE? Doubtfull. Even if Cleveland covets AJ Green, they likely wouldn't want to risk St. Louis leap frogging them to take Julio Jones and to that the possibly Tennessee taking Marcel Dareus and I see no reason why they would trade down.

 

[tomson75]

People keep mentioning that a certain CB (Newman or Champ) can barely stay healthy at CB so they can't handle Safety..I have to ask, did you ever play?

CB is one of the most physically demanding positions in the game. You are making a hard backpedal for 5 to 10 yards on almost every play. You plant and change direction constantly. You are almost always fighting through blocks to make tackles.

Safeties take a soft backpedal and read the play before making cuts. They usually are in space and have clean shots at ball carriers.

CB is an extremely tough and demanding position. Safeties need to be physical hitters but they have more choices than a CB who has to try to take out the legs of pulling linemen to get to the RB.

I agree with all of this, but I don't think this applies in Newman's case. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the vast majority of Newman's injuries over the course of these past few years have been as a result of mixing it up on contact. I don't recall him coming up lame on backpedals or bad plants. He's more prone to things like deep contusions and cartilage tears due to collisions IMO. I think he stays at CB where he's not asked to come forward on most plays.

Good post though, and in many cases I'd agree with it. Just not this one.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Put it this way, you covet Peterson, so would you trade down with him on the board for 2 4th round picks and a TE? Doubtfull. Even if Cleveland covets AJ Green, they likely wouldn't want to risk St. Louis leap frogging them to take Julio Jones and to that the possibly Tennessee taking Marcel Dareus and I see no reason why they would trade down.

Nah, I think they need to get McCoy some weapons and see what hes got. You dont want him to struggle and have his confidence shook. I think its extremely important for the Browns and Rams to get their stud WR this year.


If they have the next 3 WR's. Jones, Floyd, Baldwin all rated about the same its basically a no-brainer. You get a TE, a couple of picks, and probably your pick of the liter.