Lovie Smith: "We’re primarily going to be a man team."

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LOL!
I first read that ... "We're primarily going to be a mean team" then thought, "Lovie doesn't have a mean bone in his body. How is his team going to be mean?"
 

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LOL!
I first read that ... "We're primarily going to be a mean team" then thought, "Lovie doesn't have a mean bone in his body. How is his team going to be mean?"

You hire coordinators who are.
 

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They better get a pass rush then.

Our zone D didn't hide that last season? The team has man corners, what is the point of playing zone when the S/LBs don't understand their basic transferring receivers/geographical responsibilities. It surely wouldn't have made our D's historically bad play any worse. In a way, the D relied more on the inferior talent @ S over the "talent" available @ CB. Frustrated me to no end.

Sorry...couldn't help but apply it to our problems...
 
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This man v zone argument is tired... you need a mix and you need to be able to disguise it. Disguising it is the most important thing. QB's can read Defenses so good now and can audible at will... if they know what you are running they will run a play designed to beat it.

But we should run more zone, press man. We have the personnel to do it.
 
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This man v zone argument is tired... you need a mix and you need to be able to disguise it. Disguising it is the most important thing. QB's can read Defenses so good now and can audible at will... if they know what you are running they will run a play designed to beat it.

But we should run more zone, press man. We have the personnel to do it.

Of course, the other option is to find talent such that disguising isn't necessary. See Seattle. They disguise nothing. They just dare you to beat them.

I know, for the Cowboys, it's a pipe dream to wish Jerry can accumulate that kind of talent. Not just on defense, but offense as well.
 

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Of course, the other option is to find talent such that disguising isn't necessary. See Seattle. They disguise nothing. They just dare you to beat them.

I know, for the Cowboys, it's a pipe dream to wish Jerry can accumulate that kind of talent. Not just on defense, but offense as well.

That's an extenuating circumstance... and they don't run zone all the time and not the same zone and they disguise it to. They have the right personnel to fit the right system and run it well.
 

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Our zone D didn't hide that last season? The team has man corners, what is the point of playing zone when the S/LBs don't understand their basic transferring receivers/geographical responsibilities. It surely wouldn't have made our D's historically bad play any worse. In a way, the D relied more on the inferior talent @ S over the "talent" available @ CB. Frustrated me to no end.

Sorry...couldn't help but apply it to our problems...

One issue is that you can't just look at the CBs when deciding on man vs zone. That decision affects everybody in the back 7. The Cowboys were trying to find the best overall coverage scheme last year even if that caused man type corners to play more zone.
 

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Our zone D didn't hide that last season? The team has man corners, what is the point of playing zone when the S/LBs don't understand their basic transferring receivers/geographical responsibilities. It surely wouldn't have made our D's historically bad play any worse. In a way, the D relied more on the inferior talent @ S over the "talent" available @ CB. Frustrated me to no end.

Sorry...couldn't help but apply it to our problems...

The pass rush, strongside LB and safety play was so bad it did not matter what we ran. Zone. Man. It did not make a difference.

Sitting there and blaming the scheme when practically nobody did their job is misplaced angst.
 

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it would've corrected or compensated for the dreadful lack of talent. The D would've ranked just as poor in all likelihood but zone D shouldn't have been the base scheme, esp after proving it wasn't stopping the bleeding in any way. It didn't accommodate the players that were available for last season and players the team is depending on for the future (Carr, Mo, Scan could play both). Just made little sense to me to accommodate the scheme more so for the likes of Church/Heath rather than Carr/Mo/Scan. The counter would be to cover for the lack of talent but the Zone schemes sure weren't producing that result either. Just felt lazy and complacent.

I agree the ship was already sinking but it didn't bode well that the team felt that their scheme/coverages was the best they could come up with considering the gaping lack of talent @ DL and S. How bout use them corners and blitz every now n then as an option B wouldn't have been a terrible idea.

I understand it's a pretty nitpicky argument like claiming Burger King is healthier than McDonalds or something but it's the offseason :D
 
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Sounds like Lovie is adjusting his Tampa-2 philosophy based on the strengths of the players on his roster. What a novel concept!

Yeah, what a novel concept it is to think you can run an entire defensive scheme around 1 player.

There is a reason this guy was sitting on his couch before getting the Bucs job.
 

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Yeah, what a novel concept it is to think you can run an entire defensive scheme around 1 player.

There is a reason this guy was sitting on his couch before getting the Bucs job.
Yeah, what a novel concept it is to think you can run an entire defensive scheme around 1 player.

There is a reason this guy was sitting on his couch before getting the Bucs job.


1) He sat the year out when he could have taken D Coordinator positions 2) He got fired at 10-6 and went to SB with crap team. He'd be a hero here. Not a great coach but seemed to get it done for the most part. Trouble was fining people to run an offense.
 

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Yeah, what a novel concept it is to think you can run an entire defensive scheme around 1 player.

There is a reason this guy was sitting on his couch before getting the Bucs job.

I consider it a good sign that I disagree with so many negative criticisms, even when the don't concern the Cowboys. I know I'm not a Lovie homer by any stretch.
 
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