LVE's performance last night

LVE's problem is speed and bend. He's not fast or quick, he's powerful. So once he does make the right decision, he's strong at the point of attack. The problem is, he's in the wrong system. This is a fast man's system.
Power where?
 
I've long decided i'm not going to expect him to make plays like these. I just want him to be able to tackle a guy straight up, unblocked, man to man. He hugs and gets dragged EVERY time
 
Power where?

I see absolutely NO power to his game. Power either means quick twitch or sustaining strength, neither of which shows up in the game. Status don't show it either. How can a starting inside linebacker end a game with three total combined tackles. How is that possible?! We'll he's done it 3 times in 7 games
 
You must be blind. Parsons was farther away and actually ran up into the hole towards cook and was chip blocked right as he lunged to make the tackle. LVE was actually standing right there to make the tackle and completely whiffed.
You're full of it, as usual, and clearly you never played LB, much less football. Micah was by far the first and closest LB to the RB. When the RB made his cut back inside at the line of scrimmage, Micah is see just looking as the RB runs right past him. Then LVE missed afterwards 2-3 yards after the RB passed Micah.
 
When the all-22 comes out i will upload every single one of his snaps and put it on here. Posting two plays of him losing is an injustice to serious film watchers. Never liked that Mosher guy he does it often.
Agreed. That Mosher guy is an idiot. One can tell he most likely never played football. If he did, he probably sucked because he clearly doesn't understand what he is seeing. Sad thing, when he puts pen to paper and tweets his disinformation, many fans fall for it and believe it is gospel when clearly it's not. Please post any All-22 clips to help so many here better understand. Thanks.
 
You're full of it, as usual, and clearly you never played LB, much less football. Micah was by far the first and closest LB to the RB. When the RB made his cut back inside at the line of scrimmage, Micah is see just looking as the RB runs right past him. Then LVE missed afterwards 2-3 yards after the RB passed Micah.

I dont care if you were a pro bowl linebacker in the NFL, you suck at analyzing football. Just like you goofed up your analysis of both Connor Williams and Biadasz.

If Micah doenst get chip blocked right at the end he makes that tackle for no gain or one yard. LVE was RIGHT there dead on and simply closed his eyes and whiffed.
 
Clearly Lve isn't the answer, but that is probably a 2022 decision as there aren't any other solutions outside of the trade market or veteran fa.

I'm starting to think we may let him w/o even an offer. I've said he had to have a near ALL Pro year for Stephen to even consider offering him a long-term deal. Now nearly half way through the season we're still not seeing the player from his rookie season........what happen? It appears he's healthy but something is missing. Either way, the rest of the season is huge for him to impact his next contract, probably as a free agent.
 
I dont care if you were a pro bowl linebacker in the NFL, you suck at analyzing football. Just like you goofed up your analysis of both Connor Williams and Biadasz.

If Micah doenst get chip blocked right at the end he makes that tackle for no gain or one yard. LVE was RIGHT there dead on and simply closed his eyes and whiffed.
Hey, numbskull, Micah got chipped AFTER the RB was running right by him. Rewatch the game! It shows it clearly on there. They showed the replay from the on-field camera view during the game, and it clearly showed it was Micah’s fault. You're simply too emotionally invested to correctly place blame where it belongs.
 
Hey, numbskull, Micah got chipped AFTER the RB was running right by him. Rewatch the game! It shows it clearly on there. They showed the replay from the on-field camera view during the game, and it clearly showed it was Micah’s fault. You're simply too emotionally invested to correctly place blame where it belongs.

You are blind and smart? :muttley: All you have to do is watch the play above and slow pause it to see exactly what happened. You blew this analysis like you blow all of them.

In live action it was obvious as well. LVE is right in front of him and he completely whiffs on the tackle.
 
I'm starting to think we may let him w/o even an offer. I've said he had to have a near ALL Pro year for Stephen to even consider offering him a long-term deal. Now nearly half way through the season we're still not seeing the player from his rookie season........what happen? It appears he's healthy but something is missing. Either way, the rest of the season is huge for him to impact his next contract, probably as a free agent.
I agree, just not the same player we saw pre injury to his neck. Think we will be looking at linebackers in the draft this season again.
 
Apples and oranges. These clips are Parson's highlights. Baldinger describes uncanny recognition, league best athleticism. He's going to make most LBers look silly next to him. In a couple years with the $ Parsons is going to be pulling down, he'll be surrounded with cheap bargain basement talent at the position.
 
the defense plays better when he's on the sideline. Sheesh in the first clip is he running in the mud? Parson pushed him aside and blasted past the pencil neck sloth like he was standing still.
 
Trying to see where they went wrong on his potential.

NFL.COM

Overview


Vander Esch is a loose-hipped, instinctive linebacker who played in 2017 like he had a GPS tracker on the football. His production totals against both the run and pass are rare for being a first-year starter and with a frame that is primed for more muscle, his NFL ceiling is high. Vander Esch might benefit from a reduced role his rookie season while he improves his play strength and becomes more skilled at taking on blocks. He's an every-down linebacker with very good starting potential and the talent to fill up a stat sheet.

Strengths
  • Big, long and athletic
  • Has history of achievement with dominant performances and state titles in two sports in high school
  • Former basketball standout with fluid hips and smooth movement around the field
  • Almost no delay in his change of direction
  • Has agility and quick-twitch for sudden lateral bursts in his slides to close out slashers
  • Triggers with compact burst to the ball
  • Works under climbing blockers to stay clean
  • Easy sideline-to-sideline range as tackler
  • Has athletic ability to recover and tackle despite over pursuit
  • Widens frame and opens arms to welcome his prey as a tackler
  • Generally wraps up
  • Very talented in coverage
  • Quick but smooth in his drops
  • Mirrors quarterback's eyes with ability to redirect from side to side as he follows
  • Uses active, catch-ready hands to breakup the pass or take it away
  • Shows real rush talent and instincts as a blitzer
  • May have enough ability to beat a tackle as edge rusher from time to time
Weaknesses
  • Has just one year of starting experience
  • Still filling out his frame
  • Play strength has room for improvement
  • Has some struggles in taking on blocks and will get washed away by down blocks
  • Hasn't learned to use hands effectively to punch and separate
  • Takes himself out of tackle opportunities by attacking iso-blocks and lead blocks with a shoulder
  • At times, will over pursue or run himself out of position in attempt to play fast and avoid having to deal with blockers
PFF

"In his first year starting, Leighton Vander Esch catapulted himself into the elite linebacker conversation after looking solid in spot duty the two years before that. He's an instinctive linebacker who is able to work quickly to the running back in the run game and bottle up those plays. His coverage is solid, and he shows good positioning, but may not have the elite level athleticism to make special plays in that area. Should still have room to develop given relative experience. Will likely be a solid NFL player quickly."

Walter Football

"In pass coverage, Vander Esch is very impressive. He is natural in zone, possessing fluidity in space, some twitchy athleticism, and an ability to redirect and get depth in his drop. Vander Esch is quick to move around the field with good awareness. He is also intelligent and adept at following the quarterback's eyes to disrupt throwing lanes. With his instincts, Vander Esch always seems to be in the right place at the right time, which leads to him producing a lot of splash plays. Vander Esch would be a very good fit as a Tampa 2 middle linebacker who can run down the middle seam in coverage. He also should be a good contributor to covering running backs and tight ends in man coverage.

"While his coverage skills should make him a future starter in the NFL, Vander Esch also is a dangerous blitzer. He uses his intelligence and awareness to find openings and then uses his excellent closing speed to chase down the quarterback. Vander Esch could be a nice contributor to the pass rush with his natural blitzing skills."
 
Parson really highlights how much LVE and Jaylon have been hurting the defense the last number of years. Dallas has done a lot to upgrade the position in one offseason, but it's going to take another effort in the 2022 draft. Too bad Cox got hurt, the Cowboys need all the help they can get taking snaps away from LVE.
 

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