Mahomes and Josh Allen are playing in preseason but not Dak

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Cowpolk

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We can agree that Emmitt gets a pass right? Granted, at the time no one knew how his career would end up. It's quite clear that Zeke will not be having an Emmitt like career, so no free pass for him if its true he is refusing to practice, play in pre season games, or whatever.
No he is not
 

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Mike McCarthy is a coward and doesn't know how to coach discipline

McCarthy's plan has been to use these practices with other teams as Dak's preseason. He's going up against those teams' starters without the risk of being hit. I don't really have a problem with that, and actually think it is the smart thing to do with the starters. Less risk of injury while still going against another team is a good thing IMO. I think more and more teams will be moving toward those instead of playing their starters much or at all in "meaningless" games.

I believe that we scheduled as many joint practices this year as any team and our two were more than most teams did. I believe Kansas City had one.
 
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Since when has MM been allowed to make any decisions?

If it's true that MM just follows Jerry's orders then that is just another reason that he's a terrible coach
 

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McCarthy's plan has been to use these practices with other teams as Dak's preseason. He's going up against those teams' starters without the risk of being hit. I don't really have a problem with that, and actually think it is the smart thing to do with the starters. Less risk of injury while still going against another team is a good thing IMO. I think more and more teams will be moving toward those instead of playing their starters much or at all in "meaningless" games.
I think we shouldn't do anything with Dak at all.

We have to protect our baby at all costs.

What the Chiefs and Bills are doing with Mahomes and Allen is borderline insane. That's why they have no success. They're crazy, I tell ya.
 

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If it's true that MM just follows Jerry's orders then that is just another reason that he's a terrible coach

He's only there for the money. I believe that 100%. He's not a great coach either; no great coach would willingly come to Dallas and work under Jerry.
 

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I think we shouldn't do anything with Dak at all.

We have to protect our baby at all costs.

What the Chiefs and Bills are doing with Mahomes and Allen is borderline insane. That's why they have no success. They're crazy, I tell ya.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was saying, genius.
 

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We can agree that Emmitt gets a pass right? Granted, at the time no one knew how his career would end up. It's quite clear that Zeke will not be having an Emmitt like career, so no free pass for him if its true he is refusing to practice, play in pre season games, or whatever.

By the way, if you are referring to Emmitt's 'holdout' after super bowl 27, he claims it wasn't a holdout. He claims he wasn't eligible to play the 1st 2 games that season because he wasn't under contract. I will believe Emmitt over Jerry 100 times out of a 100,
So he got a pass when nobody knew how his career would go?
Dude...
What the heck.
You would not have given him a pass, jerk.
 

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Why you putting the heat all on McCarthy?

Dak could play if he wanted too.

Young gun top 4 QBs in the NFL like Mahomes and Allen use any chance to get better. Their skill along with there desire to get better is why they are so highly thought of.

Or

Dak is already better than Mahomes. Stop laughing it's a simple thought experiment.
 

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When you're ready you don't have to get ready.

The Chiefs and Bills know what they're doing.

The Cowboys should take notes from franchises that are doing things the successful way.

There are other teams that are doing it like Dallas, including the reigning champs.

Here's what Sean McVay said last year: "There is zero chance you will ever see Matthew Stafford take a snap in the preseason for the Rams as long as I'm the coach. That will never happen," McVay told the Doug Gottlieb Show, via Rams Wire. "He is not going to play. That's why it's important for us to try to get competitive 'opps' against some of these other teams in practice settings. Practicing against the Cowboys this Saturday. Get the Raiders twice. So we're always looking for those things. Until you tell me that if a guy gets hurt in the preseason that we'll get those games back or they'll add them on the schedule afterwards as, 'Oh yeah, you get two games because you lost those guys in the preseason,' it's hard for me to make sense of it."

This is the formula we followed this preseason with one practice against Denver and two against the Chargers. As I said, I believe this is the way NFL teams are trending because it lowers the risk of injury to key players while still getting them work after other teams' starters. Obviously, there are some positions where hitting is necessary in order to get ready for the season, but QB isn't really one of those.
 

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Mike McCarthy is a coward and doesn't know how to coach discipline

Meanwhile Brady, Rodgers, Stafford, Carr, Jackson, etc. all watched the preseason because there is no reason to put your QB or any decent starter in. The Rams showed a few years ago that you can rest every single starter every single preseason game and not be rusty at all and reduce the risk of injury to key players. At the end of the day throwing against generic defenses with a bunch of starters playing only 80% speed is useless to prep and can only derail a season.
 

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There are other teams that are doing it like Dallas, including the reigning champs.

Here's what Sean McVay said last year: "There is zero chance you will ever see Matthew Stafford take a snap in the preseason for the Rams as long as I'm the coach. That will never happen," McVay told the Doug Gottlieb Show, via Rams Wire. "He is not going to play. That's why it's important for us to try to get competitive 'opps' against some of these other teams in practice settings. Practicing against the Cowboys this Saturday. Get the Raiders twice. So we're always looking for those things. Until you tell me that if a guy gets hurt in the preseason that we'll get those games back or they'll add them on the schedule afterwards as, 'Oh yeah, you get two games because you lost those guys in the preseason,' it's hard for me to make sense of it."

This is the formula we followed this preseason with one practice against Denver and two against the Chargers. As I said, I believe this is the way NFL teams are trending because it lowers the risk of injury to key players while still getting them work after other teams' starters. Obviously, there are some positions where hitting is necessary in order to get ready for the season, but QB isn't really one of those.
The Rams and Cowboys are not doing things the same way at all.

When it comes to playing guys in the preseason maybe, but everywhere else is glaringly different.

The only teams that are doing things the same way as the Cowboys (resting guys in the preseason, no big trades, no big FA action, only concerned with signing your own guys to huge contracts) are losers like the Cowboys.
 

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Blaming Mike of the Jones's decisions? ......... this has been happening since Wade all through Garrett and now Mike .......

McCarthy is the coach not The Joneses. He should override them or make all final decisions regarding the players roles and usage.
 
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