Mahomes is a giant project imo

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I like the talent but this type of football will just not translate to the pros.

He's jumpy in the pocket and never really gets his feet set.

He locks on to 1 receiver almost every play.

He makes all kinds of risky throws into traffic. He's just careless with the football.


This guy will need a Bill Parcells in his life and it is going to take a lot of coaching to break him of all of these bad habits.
 

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I think some people have him in the 10-12 range of QBs entering draft next year.
For example, Walter has him as 11th QB.

Others have him higher.

He has a whole season to develop, but that would translate to a late round player....or a bit of a project.
 

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IMO, in no particular order, I think Kaaya, Kelly, and Beathards game translates to the pros better than Watson and Mahomes.
 

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Until I see a Big 12 QB have some success as a starting QB in the NFL, I'm not taking a chance on any of them coming out of the draft right now.
 

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Until I see a Big 12 QB have some success as a starting QB in the NFL, I'm not taking a chance on any of them coming out of the draft right now.

I don't blame you.

That conference produces busts and jags only at QB.
 

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I still think he is a late first. The talent and the head is there. He needs a redshirt in the NFL. Situation isnt a whole lot different then Lynch IMO
 

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Been a Tech fan my whole life, and Mahomes, IMO, is the best Tech QB ever.

I think he should play through his senior year to refine his game, but IMO, he has "it."
 

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Been a Tech fan my whole life, and Mahomes, IMO, is the best Tech QB ever.

I think he should play through his senior year to refine his game, but IMO, he has "it."


I don't think his game will get refined at Tech but it's never a bad thing for a QB to graduate school. There isn't a whole lot of successful NFL QBs that left early.
 

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I like the talent but this type of football will just not translate to the pros.

He's jumpy in the pocket and never really gets his feet set.

He locks on to 1 receiver almost every play.

He makes all kinds of risky throws into traffic. He's just careless with the football.


This guy will need a Bill Parcells in his life and it is going to take a lot of coaching to break him of all of these bad habits.


You need to watch more tape Catch. This dude has started all of 16 games in his career. He has awesome pocket presence, and can throw from any arm angle. He is going to be a star in this league. If Tech could muster a defense he will win the Heisman handily.

You need to watch the entire TCU game from last year and your tune will change. One tough SOB!
 

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I like the talent but this type of football will just not translate to the pros.

He's jumpy in the pocket and never really gets his feet set.

He locks on to 1 receiver almost every play.

He makes all kinds of risky throws into traffic. He's just careless with the football.


This guy will need a Bill Parcells in his life and it is going to take a lot of coaching to break him of all of these bad habits.

I used to think he was pretty good, but he looks like the next in a series of overrated TTU qbs.
 

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I used to think he was pretty good, but he looks like the next in a series of overrated TTU qbs.

Respectfully disagree.

Davis Webb was supplanted by Mahomes and has been named starter at Cal.

As previously noted, Mayfield left Tech because he couldn't beat out Mahomes and took his toys to OU. Somehow, someway, Mayfield was nothing more than a "system QB" when he was at Tech, yet goes to OU (running essentially the same offense) and is considered a bonafide Heisman candidate…go figure.

Again, I've seen all the system QB's that have played at Tech (beginning with Kingsbury) and none have the skill set and intangibles that Mahomes has.

He's not perfect, yet, but Tech's offense is completely elevated to another level when a healthy Mahomes is at the helm.
 

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I like the talent but this type of football will just not translate to the pros.

He's jumpy in the pocket and never really gets his feet set.

He locks on to 1 receiver almost every play.

He makes all kinds of risky throws into traffic. He's just careless with the football.


This guy will need a Bill Parcells in his life and it is going to take a lot of coaching to break him of all of these bad habits.

Good news is that for the first time in his life, he dropped baseball for football this year. He's been highly focused.
His coach claims he's taken a big leap forward this offseason.
Guess we'll see.
 

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Good news is that for the first time in his life, he dropped baseball for football this year. He's been highly focused.
His coach claims he's taken a big leap forward this offseason.
Guess we'll see.


He needs to.

He won't have a very long NFL being as careless as he is with the football.

You can have all the tangibles in the world but you can't be careless with the football like he is.
 

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http://www.todayspigskin.com/nfl-draft/mason-rudolph-deserves-among-top-quarterbacks-nfl-draft/

After that, it could go in one of many directions. Baker Mayfield has gotten some first-round buzz after his fourth-place finish in last year’s Heisman voting. Chad Kelly has the physical tools for the conversation, while Pat Mahomes and Luke Falk have the eye-popping numbers in their pass-happy spread offenses. Even lesser known Big 10 passers like C.J. Beathard and Mitch Leidner have their supporters and so does Davis Webb who transferred to Cal to replace No. 1 overall pick Jared Goff.

With many mock drafts labeling Watson and Kaaya as the No. 1 and No. 2 quarterbacks, the other seven quarterbacks mentioned have all been spotted at the back end of round one or somewhere in round two of reputable analysts projections.

Which brings us to Rudolph, who sometimes gets left out of those forward-thinking predictions. It isn’t surprising, coming from a spread scheme in the offense-dominated Big 12 his raw totals are a little underwhelming, throwing for 3,770 yards and 21 touchdowns with nine interceptions on the season. He completed better than 62 percent of his passes, but he lost snaps to a senior quarterback, particularly in the red zone.

It may seem odd for a quarterback so adept at throwing deep to have questions over his arm strength, but those long throws require just as much finesse as they do power in the arm. Well-placed passes can go for big plays even if they don’t travel 60 yards in the air at high speeds. Watching quarterbacks hit deep crosses down the middle of the field and send the ball to the sidelines on a rope are better indicators of what separates the great arms from above average ones at the NFL level. Rudolph does have the arm strength to drive the ball deep over the middle of the field, although it isn’t quite Aaron Rodgers or Jay Cutler in terms of the way the ball spins.

Rudolph can get the ball there, but the football floats a little more than someone with an elite arm talent, and while in this instance, he shows great anticipation, there isn’t a tight window he needs to navigate. Had he tried to split defenders, he may have put a little more heat on the ball, but ultimately it would be surprising for him not to give most of his arm strength to such a deep throw traveling nearly 30 yards on a crossing route
 

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Everytime I see this guy, all I can think of is the vicious hit that the Texas player put on him, knocking out and out of the game.
 
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