Mailbag: Which Rookies Stood Out During OTAs?

[morasp]

RANDY SNYDERNEWALLA, OK
Now that OTAs are over which rookies seemed to stand out from the rest defensively and offensively ?

Nick: No rookie has put on a shoulder pad yet so it’s still pretty tough for us. But let’s try to have some fun with it. It’s going to be hard to cut defensive tackle Davon Coleman , an undrafted rookie from Arizona State. Watch out for Dashaun Phillips , a cornerback from Tarleton State. This Ronald Patrick , a guard from South Carolina also looks pretty good. As for the drafted guys, DeMarcus Lawrence looks better than I thought he would. Zack Martin is going to be a solid rookie with the chance to be really good.

David: I’m going to get really hyperbolic for a second and say that Terrance Mitchell really showed up in the three days of minicamp he was able to participate in. School obligations kept Mitchell out of the majority of OTAs, but he was everywhere during minicamp – intercepting balls, breaking up passes and just generally being a nuisance. It was pretty impressive that he made such a big mark in such a short amount of time. I also agree with Nick that Zack Martin has looked the part through a handful of non-contact practices.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/a...ing-OTAs/2a117132-97a5-4489-90d5-c80a7bed4777

 

[ShiningStar]

IM not liking the sound of Martin but im not taking this article with anything but opinion, but Martin wasnt taken that high just to be solid. Great to hear of Mitchell tho. And Cole Beasley they got correct too.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

IM not liking the sound of Martin but im not taking this article with anything but opinion, but Martin wasnt taken that high just to be solid. Great to hear of Mitchell tho. And Cole Beasley they got correct too.

right now there are in shorts....not much touching....wait until pads come on.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

IM not liking the sound of Martin but im not taking this article with anything but opinion, but Martin wasnt taken that high just to be solid. Great to hear of Mitchell tho. And Cole Beasley they got correct too.

Don't think this was statement on where the cap for Martin is, but this year. And no matter where you draft someone, if you get a solid year out of a rookie, that's really really good.

 

[morasp]

I don't remember what Nick thought of Lawrence but it sounds like he exceeded his expectations which is encouraging.

 

[xwalker]

IM not liking the sound of Martin but im not taking this article with anything but opinion, but Martin wasnt taken that high just to be solid. Great to hear of Mitchell tho. And Cole Beasley they got correct too.

Darn it, Martin was supposed to make the Pro Bowl in shorts...

 

[burmafrd]

That is the problem with the OVER coverage of things anymore. When all you are doing is playing touch football (a little rougher sometimes but that is all) then how do you really know what you are looking at? All you can really tell is if they are mentally getting it as regards play recognition, etc. Nothing really in the physical area which is so important and why many that shine in OTA's and even in camp fade when the real games begin because then they are not up against other rooks and scrubs but the real thing.

 

[Stash]

IM not liking the sound of Martin but im not taking this article with anything but opinion, but Martin wasnt taken that high just to be solid. Great to hear of Mitchell tho. And Cole Beasley they got correct too.

Funny I read that in the complete opposite way. To me it sounded like praise and a good thing.

 

[DFWJC]

So far so good on pet cats Coleman and Mitchell

 

[TwoDeep3]

RANDY SNYDERNEWALLA, OK
Now that OTAs are over which rookies seemed to stand out from the rest defensively and offensively ?

Nick: No rookie has put on a shoulder pad yet so it’s still pretty tough for us. Zack Martin is going to be a solid rookie with the chance to be really good.

IM not liking the sound of Martin but im not taking this article with anything but opinion, but Martin wasnt taken that high just to be solid. Great to hear of Mitchell tho. And Cole Beasley they got correct too.

Context means everything in this comment by Nick Whomever.

At this juncture they have run around in shorts. Making predictions is difficult for them. So his ceiling is obscured by the mere fact they are not in pads, he cannot go full blast, and the competition is also in shorts and at this point not one person knows if this defense is going to be meat eaters or a ballet recital filled with squealing six year old girls.

 

[Fletch]

Darn it, Martin was supposed to make the Pro Bowl in shorts...

From what I've read, Martin has been everything that we've expected, with a chance to be really good. Isn't that where Frederick was about this time last season? Martin is a day one starter and will be a cog in the offensive line. Not sure what some in here are thinking.

 

[conner01]

IM not liking the sound of Martin but im not taking this article with anything but opinion, but Martin wasnt taken that high just to be solid. Great to hear of Mitchell tho. And Cole Beasley they got correct too.

solid for a rookie at a new position is pretty good. hard for oline guys to show much when they can't hit but i'm not too worried about him. i expect he will have a season similiar to what beard had ast year. which to me was a solid season

 

[speedkilz88]

IM not liking the sound of Martin but im not taking this article with anything but opinion, but Martin wasnt taken that high just to be solid. Great to hear of Mitchell tho. And Cole Beasley they got correct too.

Broaddus and Dan Brugler were talking on one of the Cowboys draft shows awhile back that they think he's going to multiple pro-bowls.

 

[AbeBeta]

IM not liking the sound of Martin but im not taking this article with anything but opinion, but Martin wasnt taken that high just to be solid. Great to hear of Mitchell tho. And Cole Beasley they got correct too.

If he is solid as a rookie, that's pretty darn good. OL is among the most difficult transitions from college to the pros. Even a guy like Tyron Smith really didn't start to dominate until he had a couple of years under his belt.

 

[jobberone]

Davon Coleman is a 6-2 and 297 lb DT out of Az St.

Dashaun Phillips is a 5-11 181 CB out of Tarleton St.


Ronald Patrick is a 6-1 320lb G out of SC.

2013: One of five senior scholarship players on the roster... second-year starter at the right guard position... consistent performer... started all 12 games in which he played... suffered a high ankle sprain in the fourth quarter in the win at Arkansas... the injury caused him to miss the Tennessee game, snapping a string of 19 consecutive starts... returned to the starting lineup at Missouri... made 25 career starts... earned a spot on the SEC Fall Academic Honor Roll for the third-straight year.

2012: Junior offensive guard who moved into the starting lineup for the first time in his career... started every game at right guard... joined senior center T.J. Johnson as the only two offensive lineman to start every game... member of the SEC Fall Academic Honor Roll.

2011: Sophomore offensive lineman who moved back to his more familiar position of guard in the spring after spending the 2010 season as the backup center behind T.J. Johnson... missed much of the spring after having surgery to remove a cyst behind his eye... played in nine of 13 games at the guard position... saw more action as the season progressed, playing in each of the last six contests... member of the SEC Fall Academic Honor Roll.

2010: Saw limited action as a reserve offensive lineman... played in three contests, appearing in the Southern Miss, Arkansas and Troy games.

HIGH SCHOOL: Played offensive guard at Cocoa (Fla.) High School, graduating in 2010... named first-team all-state as selected by SunStateFootball.com... helped his team to a 14-0 record and the 3A title as a senior... earned All-Space Coast first-team honors as a senior... played in a postseason all-star game in Sebring, Fla... was a three-year starter for head coach John Wilkinson... played in a Wing-T offense... helped his team to the 3A state title and a 14-1 season as a junior... was named to the All-Space Coast first team and was a third-team all-state selection in 2008... was on a basketball squad that went 30-3 and claimed the 4A state title as a junior... considered a three-star prospect by Rivals.com... rated a three-star prospect and the nation's 48th-best offensive guard by Scout.com... regarded as a two-star prospect and the nation's 136th-ranked offensive guard by ESPN.com... had offers from Florida State, East Carolina, Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky and New Mexico.

PERSONAL: Ronald Patrick Jr. was born November 1, 1991... earned a degree in criminal justice... has an 80-inch wingspan.

 

[jobberone]

I've followed Gamecock football but not closely the last few years. I don't know Patrick. Anyone got any scoop on him?

 

[big dog cowboy]

Nick: It’s going to be hard to cut defensive tackle Davon Coleman, an undrafted rookie from Arizona State.

I mentioned him in the "longshot" thread. Really hope he turns out to be at least a good rotational guy. It would be a nice surprise to hit on another UDFA in a area of need.

 

[jobberone]

Seems like there are 1-3 UDFAs every year.

 

[waving monkey]

I have a good feeling about some of these 7th round guys and UDFA.
Bishop,Coleman ect. ect.
The Cowboys really made that 7th round net work this year, it appears.

 

[jobberone]

I'd like to know what the league average is for UDFAs added each year per team.