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Maybe the best Cowboys offensive line ever consisted of an undrafted former defensive tackle at left tackle (Mark Tuinei), an undrafted USFL player at left guard (Nate Newton) , a third-round round center (Mark Stepnoski), an eighth rounder at right guard (John Gesek) and another third-round player at right tackle (Erik Williams). So why does it seem like everyone believes that the offensive line needs to be a bunch of first-round picks? Has the game changed that much? – Tim Shumate/Fullerton, CA

Nick:
The game has not changed that much. The scouting and evaluation of players has certainly changed over the years. I don't think you're finding the late-round steals like you did before. The process is different now where everyone seems to have a much better read on the players. Sure, there are some that fall through the cracks still. The Cowboys have a right tackle in Terence Steele that went undrafted.

But I think the thought process is if you want a game-changing player - at any position - you probably need to get him early. That's why the Cowboys and other teams are looking at lineman early on. Think about Tyler Smith, he's someone who could be a fixture for 10 years or so. Obviously, that's the hope for Tyler Guyton but we'll see.

The Cowboys probably held onto that theory about not drafting lineman early on for too long. In 2011, they finally got Tyron Smith and then added Travis Frederick and Zack Martin in the next three years. That alone carried the team for nearly a decade. So I'm not one opposed to taking lineman early on, especially if they can be versatile with position flex.

Patrik: I'm always of the mindset that you win games in the trenches and that means you build from the inside and work your way outward, on both sides of the ball. But with Tyler Guyton locked in as starting left tackle, Tyler Smith effectively taking the OL crown with the retirement of Zack Martin, Terence Steele looking back to form during the back half of last season, Cooper Beebe's ceiling being somewhere on the moon and Brock Hoffman, at minimum, providing you a solid starter at either right guard or center, I don't believe the Cowboys are pressed to grab an offensive lineman in the first round of the 2025 NFL Draft.

Is it possible? Sure, if they feel they'd want to upgrade over Hoffman but, with the current No. 12 pick, and primo receivers, defensive ends and (ahem) running backs staring them in the face, I find it hard to believe they'd forego on a BPA (which would arguably not be an OL) with that pick that also fills a position of massive need (e.g., DE/WR/RB). Of course, stranger things have happened. I just can't see it through my eyes.
 
A top tier OL can have a productive career as a foundational piece to the roster for well over a decade. Six of the top 20 draft picks in 2024 were OL.
 
Let your scouts stack your board and let the picks ahead of you, and the calls you might be fielding from other teams, determine what you do with yours.

It's really not any more complicated than that.
 
Maybe the best Cowboys offensive line ever consisted of an undrafted former defensive tackle at left tackle (Mark Tuinei), an undrafted USFL player at left guard (Nate Newton) , a third-round round center (Mark Stepnoski), an eighth rounder at right guard (John Gesek) and another third-round player at right tackle (Erik Williams). So why does it seem like everyone believes that the offensive line needs to be a bunch of first-round picks? Has the game changed that much? – Tim Shumate/Fullerton, CA

Nick:
The game has not changed that much. The scouting and evaluation of players has certainly changed over the years. I don't think you're finding the late-round steals like you did before. The process is different now where everyone seems to have a much better read on the players. Sure, there are some that fall through the cracks still. The Cowboys have a right tackle in Terence Steele that went undrafted.

But I think the thought process is if you want a game-changing player - at any position - you probably need to get him early. That's why the Cowboys and other teams are looking at lineman early on. Think about Tyler Smith, he's someone who could be a fixture for 10 years or so. Obviously, that's the hope for Tyler Guyton but we'll see.

The Cowboys probably held onto that theory about not drafting lineman early on for too long. In 2011, they finally got Tyron Smith and then added Travis Frederick and Zack Martin in the next three years. That alone carried the team for nearly a decade. So I'm not one opposed to taking lineman early on, especially if they can be versatile with position flex.

Patrik: I'm always of the mindset that you win games in the trenches and that means you build from the inside and work your way outward, on both sides of the ball. But with Tyler Guyton locked in as starting left tackle, Tyler Smith effectively taking the OL crown with the retirement of Zack Martin, Terence Steele looking back to form during the back half of last season, Cooper Beebe's ceiling being somewhere on the moon and Brock Hoffman, at minimum, providing you a solid starter at either right guard or center, I don't believe the Cowboys are pressed to grab an offensive lineman in the first round of the 2025 NFL Draft.

Is it possible? Sure, if they feel they'd want to upgrade over Hoffman but, with the current No. 12 pick, and primo receivers, defensive ends and (ahem) running backs staring them in the face, I find it hard to believe they'd forego on a BPA (which would arguably not be an OL) with that pick that also fills a position of massive need (e.g., DE/WR/RB). Of course, stranger things have happened. I just can't see it through my eyes.
I will advocate for that, but not a guard. we need to pick a LT if worth the 12th pick. move Guyton to the right and cut steele
 
Good to see Walker is still a “cup is half full” kind of guy when it comes to the Cowboys.

With many roster needs, I’d be more inclined to make my selection per BPA with a nod toward the defensive front 7 if player selection is too close to call.

Why BPA? CD has essentially been playing with a bunch of 3’s & 4’s. Helping him also helps your QB and run game. What’s up in the backfield? D-line - what’s the story on the edge’s & how confident are you that Sam can give you something for 17 games. D-Interior - Sorry, Mazi’s ceiling is lowering to somewhere between serviceable and marginally good. At LB - who’s playing there? Really? Corner may be a sneaky need and the O-line has left room for improvement.

The Cowboys just can’t put themselves in a spot where they’re chasing a pick based on a position. Couple years ago they had a draft where it felt most of the draft selections were taken a round too soon. Inactive free agency participants can’t afford missteps like that.
 
This line has problems. It isn’t just penalties, but the pressure and sacks are also a big reason why the Cowboys struggle.
Coaching still matters. And the Cowboys have had subpar OL coaching recently.

I'm very optimistic that will be changing now. These new guys look like the real deal.
 
Maybe the best Cowboys offensive line ever consisted of an undrafted former defensive tackle at left tackle (Mark Tuinei), an undrafted USFL player at left guard (Nate Newton) , a third-round round center (Mark Stepnoski), an eighth rounder at right guard (John Gesek) and another third-round player at right tackle (Erik Williams). So why does it seem like everyone believes that the offensive line needs to be a bunch of first-round picks? Has the game changed that much? – Tim Shumate/Fullerton, CA

Nick:
The game has not changed that much. The scouting and evaluation of players has certainly changed over the years. I don't think you're finding the late-round steals like you did before. The process is different now where everyone seems to have a much better read on the players. Sure, there are some that fall through the cracks still. The Cowboys have a right tackle in Terence Steele that went undrafted.

But I think the thought process is if you want a game-changing player - at any position - you probably need to get him early. That's why the Cowboys and other teams are looking at lineman early on. Think about Tyler Smith, he's someone who could be a fixture for 10 years or so. Obviously, that's the hope for Tyler Guyton but we'll see.

The Cowboys probably held onto that theory about not drafting lineman early on for too long. In 2011, they finally got Tyron Smith and then added Travis Frederick and Zack Martin in the next three years. That alone carried the team for nearly a decade. So I'm not one opposed to taking lineman early on, especially if they can be versatile with position flex.

Patrik: I'm always of the mindset that you win games in the trenches and that means you build from the inside and work your way outward, on both sides of the ball. But with Tyler Guyton locked in as starting left tackle, Tyler Smith effectively taking the OL crown with the retirement of Zack Martin, Terence Steele looking back to form during the back half of last season, Cooper Beebe's ceiling being somewhere on the moon and Brock Hoffman, at minimum, providing you a solid starter at either right guard or center, I don't believe the Cowboys are pressed to grab an offensive lineman in the first round of the 2025 NFL Draft.

Is it possible? Sure, if they feel they'd want to upgrade over Hoffman but, with the current No. 12 pick, and primo receivers, defensive ends and (ahem) running backs staring them in the face, I find it hard to believe they'd forego on a BPA (which would arguably not be an OL) with that pick that also fills a position of massive need (e.g., DE/WR/RB). Of course, stranger things have happened. I just can't see it through my eyes.
Hernandez OG Arizona could man that RG spot ,he is a mauler in the running game.I would say with Klayton being the new Offensive coordinator there is a 90 percent chance he is a Cowboy and relatively cheap as well.
 
Given the need at other positions (especially DL and RB) and with no 4th (as of today) I don't see the Cowboys going OL until the 5th (4 picks) round.
Buy a RB, Buy a RB, Buy a RB.......its literally the best value in free agency and you get a proven commodity.

Dline and Oline proven players are WAY to expensive in FA so pick them early and often in the draft.

Derrick Henry pff 94.....8 million per
Osa Odigizuwah pff 68.....20 million per
 
Hernandez OG Arizona could man that RG spot ,he is a mauler in the running game.I would say with Klayton being the new Offensive coordinator there is a 90 percent chance he is a Cowboy and relatively cheap as well.
Just because Hernandez was forced on Adams doesn’t mean he was a good fit for his system in Arizona. Adams from the run graphs post a few weeks back likes to run a lot of inside and outside zone runs and is heavily reliant on pulling his guards. Hernandez was a bust in New York because he didn’t have the lateral quickness to effectively win consistently inthe outside zone blocking scheme they were running nor is he effective pulling. He’s best suited to a man blocking scheme where he can try to maul people. I’d be surprised if they had any interest in him whatsoever.
There’s a very good reason he went from being a 2nd round pick to being cheap… he’s athletically limited to nothing more than a mauler!
 
Just because Hernandez was forced on Adams doesn’t mean he was a good fit for his system in Arizona. Adams from the run graphs post a few weeks back likes to run a lot of inside and outside zone runs and is heavily reliant on pulling his guards. Hernandez was a bust in New York because he didn’t have the lateral quickness to effectively win consistently inthe outside zone blocking scheme they were running nor is he effective pulling. He’s best suited to a man blocking scheme where he can try to maul people. I’d be surprised if they had any interest in him whatsoever.
There’s a very good reason he went from being a 2nd round pick to being cheap… he’s athletically limited to nothing more than a mauler!
I figured he would work in a power running scheme because he is a mauler but you may have a point does he have the feet to pull .If Adams wants him he will get him we will see.Stephen will like him because he will be cheap.
 
I figured he would work in a power running scheme because he is a mauler but you may have a point does he have the feet to pull .If Adams wants him he will get him we will see.Stephen will like him because he will be cheap.
Hoffman is cheap, just as good and can actually play and perform within the scheme.
 
Good to see Walker is still a “cup is half full” kind of guy when it comes to the Cowboys.

With many roster needs, I’d be more inclined to make my selection per BPA with a nod toward the defensive front 7 if player selection is too close to call.

Why BPA? CD has essentially been playing with a bunch of 3’s & 4’s. Helping him also helps your QB and run game. What’s up in the backfield? D-line - what’s the story on the edge’s & how confident are you that Sam can give you something for 17 games. D-Interior - Sorry, Mazi’s ceiling is lowering to somewhere between serviceable and marginally good. At LB - who’s playing there? Really? Corner may be a sneaky need and the O-line has left room for improvement.

The Cowboys just can’t put themselves in a spot where they’re chasing a pick based on a position. Couple years ago they had a draft where it felt most of the draft selections were taken a round too soon. Inactive free agency participants can’t afford missteps like that.
Today's first round picks for about the past 10 years has been consistently very good, cross compared.
 
I’m not about Steele at RT I cringe every time the QB drops back to pass

If you tell me we’re gonna run all the time then Steele can be useful

I’m ok with June 1 cut there and move guyton over but that’s contingent on a good LT being taken early

Of course we have big needs at WR and RB and DT as well that I see in 2 of the first 3 picks. Ideally it would be nice to drop down a bit and pick up that wasted 4th we gave up for mingo

This is a good time of year for optimism going into the draft
 

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