Man calls 911 over mixed-up sandwich order

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Cajuncowboy;4594370 said:
I agree. No amount of advertising can fix stupid. It would be a waste of money.

It is very narrow minded to write off the benefits of promoting the intended purpose for something because you delegate a certain group of people to be incapable of benefiting from it.

If all of the local news runs a big news story or multiple stories stating that anyone calling 911 for non-emergencies will be prosecuted, what you will see in return is an increase in deaths and crimes. Why? Because people already have to get over the "should I get involved" hump in calling in a potential emergency and in many cases it is not obvious if something is an emergency. It might be, but because the only information they have heard lately is "only call if it IS an emergency or the law will come after you!" then most people will likely choose to stay out of it because they are not sure if it is really is an emergency and they don't want to put themselves at risk of legal action.

Of course some idiot calling 911 because of a food order gone wrong should be prosecuted or at least heavily fined, but if that's the only story that the general public hears, they will tend to err on the side of caution and not call 911.

I will give you an example that happened to me when I was young. One night on my way back from work, I came to a stop light and noticed that in the turn lane next to me was a car with a driver leaning over into the steering wheel. I saw the driver behind him already out of his car and banging on the window. I asked him what happened and he said he just drove up, noticed something was wrong and got out to check on the driver. His opinion was the driver was just asleep so he was banging on the door's window trying to wake him up. I called 911 and reported it. Turns out the guy had a heart attack. I have no idea if he survived or not, but I know that every minute counts when something like that happens.

The last thing you want is random people standing around wondering if there is really an emergency or not. In the example above, several people would think if the driver was just asleep and the car is not moving, it's not actually an emergency. Knowing my luck, I would get one those hesitant people. Heck, if it were me in that car, I would gladly pay any fines for anyone who called 911. :D

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Reality;4594273 said:
You would be amazed how many people attribute 911 to being the number for the police. That's why you see so many strange 911 calls like this. People want to call and complain to the police so they dial 911 thinking they are talking to the police.

Local governments could probably save a lot of money if they would run advertising campaigns telling the citizens to only call 911 in emergencies, not as a speed dial for the police.

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I don't even know the number for the police if I had to call them.
 

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Reality;4594391 said:
It is very narrow minded to write off the benefits of promoting the intended purpose for something because you delegate a certain group of people to be incapable of benefiting from it.

If all of the local news runs a big news story or multiple stories stating that anyone calling 911 for non-emergencies will be prosecuted, what you will see in return is an increase in deaths and crimes. Why? Because people already have to get over the "should I get involved" hump in calling in a potential emergency and in many cases it is not obvious if something is an emergency. It might be, but because the only information they have heard lately is "only call if it IS an emergency or the law will come after you!" then most people will likely choose to stay out of it because they are not sure if it is really is an emergency and they don't want to put themselves at risk of legal action.

Of course some idiot calling 911 because of a food order gone wrong should be prosecuted or at least heavily fined, but if that's the only story that the general public hears, they will tend to err on the side of caution and not call 911.

I will give you an example that happened to me when I was young. One night on my way back from work, I came to a stop light and noticed that in the turn lane next to me was a car with a driver leaning over into the steering wheel. I saw the driver behind him already out of his car and banging on the window. I asked him what happened and he said he just drove up, noticed something was wrong and got out to check on the driver. His opinion was the driver was just asleep so he was banging on the door's window trying to wake him up. I called 911 and reported it. Turns out the guy had a heart attack. I have no idea if he survived or not, but I know that every minute counts when something like that happens.

The last thing you want is random people standing around wondering if there is really an emergency or not. In the example above, several people would think if the driver was just asleep and the car is not moving, it's not actually an emergency. Knowing my luck, I would get one those hesitant people. Heck, if it were me in that car, I would gladly pay any fines for anyone who called 911. :D

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I do see the point you're making, and it makes sense to a degree, but I would think that the local authorities would use some common sense to decide whether or not to prosecute or fine someone for misuse of 911.

In the case you outline here, the uncertainty of the situation would surely be reason enough to prevent charges or a fine, but for the sandwich moron...no way.

To prevent other idiots who can't discern between a real or possible emergency and a situation that most obviously isn't from NOT calling when they should, fine, don't put it on the news or don't prosecute...but do fine the **** out of them.
 

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Reality;4594391 said:
It is very narrow minded to write off the benefits of promoting the intended purpose for something because you delegate a certain group of people to be incapable of benefiting from it.

If all of the local news runs a big news story or multiple stories stating that anyone calling 911 for non-emergencies will be prosecuted, what you will see in return is an increase in deaths and crimes. Why? Because people already have to get over the "should I get involved" hump in calling in a potential emergency and in many cases it is not obvious if something is an emergency. It might be, but because the only information they have heard lately is "only call if it IS an emergency or the law will come after you!" then most people will likely choose to stay out of it because they are not sure if it is really is an emergency and they don't want to put themselves at risk of legal action.

Of course some idiot calling 911 because of a food order gone wrong should be prosecuted or at least heavily fined, but if that's the only story that the general public hears, they will tend to err on the side of caution and not call 911.

I will give you an example that happened to me when I was young. One night on my way back from work, I came to a stop light and noticed that in the turn lane next to me was a car with a driver leaning over into the steering wheel. I saw the driver behind him already out of his car and banging on the window. I asked him what happened and he said he just drove up, noticed something was wrong and got out to check on the driver. His opinion was the driver was just asleep so he was banging on the door's window trying to wake him up. I called 911 and reported it. Turns out the guy had a heart attack. I have no idea if he survived or not, but I know that every minute counts when something like that happens.

The last thing you want is random people standing around wondering if there is really an emergency or not. In the example above, several people would think if the driver was just asleep and the car is not moving, it's not actually an emergency. Knowing my luck, I would get one those hesitant people. Heck, if it were me in that car, I would gladly pay any fines for anyone who called 911. :D

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You seriously think that people who are somewhat intelligent need an advertising campaign to tell them not to call 911 because of a screwed up food order?

So some rube somewhere is siting on his couch and the ad comes on TV and he thinks to himself "Dang, now who do I turn to."

Please Reality, it's not narrow minded to not throw away money on something that will have no effect. Most of these people are just flat out stupid. There are stupid people in the world.

And frankly, if you can't discern the difference between some guy getting his head bashed in by someone and not getting pickles on your Big Mac, odds are you are too stupid to be watching the news anyway.
 

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Doomsday101;4594204 said:
EAST HARTFORD, Conn. – A Connecticut man has called 911 to complain that a deli fouled up his sandwich order.

The man can be heard on a recording of Wednesday's call complaining that he "specifically asked for little turkey and little ham, a lot of cheese and a lot of mayonnaise," and the Grateful Deli in East Hartford got it wrong.
Sheer absurdity! I mean, what kind of a moron would EVER call to complain that he "specifically asked for little turkey and little ham, a lot of cheese and a lot of mayonnaise?" I say the guy's off his rocker. Has to be!

Me ... and everyone I've ever known ... would want a lot of turkey and a lot of ham, only a little bit of cheese and very little, if any, mayonnaise. Probably prefer mustard, myself. :)
 

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wittenacious;4594572 said:
Sheer absurdity! I mean, what kind of a moron would EVER call to complain that he "specifically asked for little turkey and little ham, a lot of cheese and a lot of mayonnaise?" I say the guy's off his rocker. Has to be!

Me ... and everyone I've ever known ... would want a lot of turkey and a lot of ham, only a little bit of cheese and very little, if any, mayonnaise. Probably prefer mustard, myself. :)
:laugh2:

Nice.
 

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Cajuncowboy;4594560 said:
:laugh2:

You seriously think that people who are somewhat intelligent need an advertising campaign to tell them not to call 911 because of a screwed up food order?

So some rube somewhere is siting on his couch and the ad comes on TV and he thinks to himself "Dang, now who do I turn to."

Please Reality, it's not narrow minded to not throw away money on something that will have no effect. Most of these people are just flat out stupid. There are stupid people in the world.

And frankly, if you can't discern the difference between some guy getting his head bashed in by someone and not getting pickles on your Big Mac, odds are you are too stupid to be watching the news anyway.

Again you fail to see the obvious. This is not about protecting the idiots from prosecution should they call 911 over a food order error. I stated very clearly that it is easy to judge those people as idiots.

The problem comes into play when the local news (TV, radio, newspapers, etc.) run stories saying "People calling 911 with non-emergencies will face prosecution and/or fines!" Even intelligent people are going to be a lot more hesitant to call 911 than before. If you cannot see that then you obviously have no understanding of how people think, even rational and intelligent people.

Of course if someone is in a car wreck or lying on the ground bleeding, any semi-intelligent person will know calling 911 is the right thing to do no matter how many news stories they have seen, heard or read. The issue is when you don't know. Society has already become so dangerous that many people avoid getting involved in anyone else's business not their own. A friend of mine years ago saw a man slap a woman in the face. He yelled at the man to stop it and the woman and man both attacked him. He ended up in the emergency room.

There is nothing wrong with implementing laws against non-emergency 911 calls and I fully support that. There already many of those in place in many areas of the country. What I am saying is that it would help if local governments or even state governments would run advertising campaigns that would educate and inform everyone on what is and is not an acceptable type of 911 call.

In the example I gave above that happened to me when I was younger, what if that happened today and I called 911 to report a passed out driver? Seconds after I make the call and hang-up, the guy wakes up and leaves. Now I just reported a call that turned out not to be an emergency. Sure you can write it off as "they'll never fine you over it" but given the financial state of many local governments, that is definitely not a sure thing.

A simple advertising campaign that says something like, "911 is for emergencies only! If you are unsure its an emergency, call this number ..." and then list the local police or sheriff departments' number.

Just because there are a few idiots out there that make the news on slow days does not mean we need to make everyone hesitate to call 911 in situations where it is not clear whether or not it is an emergency.

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"What? You just gonna fix my ham sammich wrong and get away with it? Aw hells naw! I'm calling 911, the FBI, the secretary of state, the NRA, PETA, Chuck Norris, Kimbo Slice, errbody down here to get you!"
 

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JonJon;4594634 said:
"What? You just gonna fix my ham sammich wrong and get away with it? Aw hells naw! I'm calling 911, the FBI, the secretary of state, the NRA, PETA, Chuck Norris, Kimbo Slice, errbody down here to get you!"
:laugh2: :lmao2::lmao:
 

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dez_for_prez;4594454 said:
I don't even know the number for the police if I had to call them.

311 is the non emergency number


edit* and really this should be common knowledge and probably taught in schools. they taught me how to write a check in 3rd grade, and cursive in 4th and i've yet to use those skills but i have called to report drunk drivers and such so i find this to be way more pertinent info
 

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rkell87;4594741 said:
311 is the non emergency number


edit* and really this should be common knowledge and probably taught in schools. they taught me how to write a check in 3rd grade, and cursive in 4th and i've yet to use those skills but i have called to report drunk drivers and such so i find this to be way more pertinent info

311 doesn't work everywhere. But yes, cities should do a better job of publicizing their non-emergency phone numbers.
 

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Doomsday101;4594204 said:
EAST HARTFORD, Conn. – A Connecticut man has called 911 to complain that a deli fouled up his sandwich order.

The man can be heard on a recording of Wednesday's call complaining that he "specifically asked for little turkey and little ham, a lot of cheese and a lot of mayonnaise," and the Grateful Deli in East Hartford got it wrong.

The dispatcher asked the man to verify that he was calling 911 because he didn't like the way they made his sandwich. The man replied, "Exactly."

The dispatcher advised him not to buy it.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/1...sandwich-order/?test=latestnews#ixzz1xsG9GddD

There are some deeply and profoundly stupid people in the world... he should be arrested and fined out the wazoo, a stiff enough fine that he'll know never to abuse 911 again...

Jail time would be extreme, but not if somebody died because emergency responders were dealing with his stupidity...
 

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BrAinPaiNt;4594228 said:
You can find loads of these with people calling 911 at the drive thru lane and stuff.

Drives me crazy.

If you fine the bejesus out of one or two of them, and make those fines public, you'd quickly see that BS come to screeching halt...
 

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Cajuncowboy;4594560 said:
:laugh2:

You seriously think that people who are somewhat intelligent need an advertising campaign to tell them not to call 911 because of a screwed up food order?

I think Reality is referring to all non-emergency police calls... and he's right, the general public needs to be made aware that 911 is strictly for emergency calls, and that you need to call another number for non-emergency situations...

They should also be made aware that there are consequences for abusing the 911 system...
 

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wittenacious;4594572 said:
Sheer absurdity! I mean, what kind of a moron would EVER call to complain that he "specifically asked for little turkey and little ham, a lot of cheese and a lot of mayonnaise?" I say the guy's off his rocker. Has to be!

I order the extra cheese and extra mayo on my subs, but skimp on the meat??

That's just un-American...
 

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JonJon;4594634 said:
"What? You just gonna fix my ham sammich wrong and get away with it? Aw hells naw! I'm calling 911, the FBI, the secretary of state, the NRA, PETA, Chuck Norris, Kimbo Slice, errbody down here to get you!"

You have just stumbled on the perfect answer... simply make Chuck Norris' phone number public... Chuck fights against injustice wherever it might be found...

That "sandwich technician" would undoubtedly quake in terror if you whipped out your cell phone and loudly announced that you were calling Chuck... end of problem...
 

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silverbear;4594829 said:
You have just stumbled on the perfect answer... simply make Chuck Norris' phone number public... Chuck fights against injustice wherever it might be found...

That "sandwich technician" would undoubtedly quake in terror if you whipped out your cell phone and loudly announced that you were calling Chuck... end of problem...

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Illini88228;4594810 said:
311 doesn't work everywhere. But yes, cities should do a better job of publicizing their non-emergency phone numbers.

then 411 or 0 work as well
 
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