Many reports saying TCU invited to Big 12

[ABQCOWBOY]

You're one of my favorites, ABQ, but it's too ironic and funny to think of the University of Texas punishing someone else for doing what's best for themselves and not the group as a whole.

I can understand how you might see the irony in this. However, I think that it's more accurate to say that the Big 12 might consider punishing TAMU rather then just Texas.

Remember, there was a time when Texas had ideas of joining the SEC. They were prevented by the politics of the whole thing because they were not allowed to part ways with TAMU. That has been a consistent piece of the equation for some time. Same thing with PAC 10 discussions more recently.

Now that the Big 12 has agreed to share revenue and the pay out will be (reportedly) 20 million per team, it's even more of a bitter pill to swallow because TAMU is leaving for the SEC for a smaller pay out, 18.5 (reportedly).

There are some interesting dynamics at work here, to be sure.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

But they won't, its best if we stop trying to act like this is even a remote possibility. They do not have one single advantage over schools like Missouri and Tech, let alone Texas and OU. They cannot compete with those two programs anymore than TCU will on a consistent basis.

You don't know this Slant. Time may prove you correct here but it could also go the other way. I have had good opportunity to watch Boise State closely and I am telling you that this team is on par with any program in the Big 12. I am not saying that they can beat OU or Texas this year but rather that they are a good program and that they have built it to be able to compete with any of the top programs. They don't have all the advantages of the Floridas or Bamas of the world but they are very, very good and they do more with less. Imagine if they get to a position where they have the same kinds of resources available to them?

Of course, all of this assumes that they actually get an offer to join a major conference.

 

[The30YardSlant]

You don't know this Slant. Time may prove you correct here but it could also go the other way. I have had good opportunity to watch Boise State closely and I am telling you that this team is on par with any program in the Big 12. I am not saying that they can beat OU or Texas this year but rather that they are a good program and that they have built it to be able to compete with any of the top programs. They don't have all the advantages of the Floridas or Bamas of the world but they are very, very good and they do more with less. Imagine if they get to a position where they have the same kinds of resources available to them?

Of course, all of this assumes that they actually get an offer to join a major conference.

Again, Boise State looks great against the teams they are playing and because they get to play subpar teams every single week. Try playing Tech, followed by Texas, followed by OU, followed by Missouri and then let's see how they look. Not exactly the same as the Nevada, San Jose State, Idaho and Utah State gauntlet.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Again, Boise State looks great against the teams they are playing and because they get to play subpar teams every single week. Try playing Tech, followed by Texas, followed by OU, followed by Missouri and then let's see how they look. Not exactly the same as the Nevada, San Jose State, Idaho and Utah State gauntlet.

I don't get this comparison. TCU walked into the Rose Bowl and thumped Wisconsin. Everyone and their grandmother said they couldn't do it, but they did.

I am not a betting man, but I WOULD HAVE bet if they had played Texas A&M, Texas, and OU last year, they would have beaten all three of them too. TCU was THAT good last year.

I wouldn't doubt that BSU could walk into Austin and beat Texas this year. Texas A&M, yes. Them too.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Again, Boise State looks great against the teams they are playing and because they get to play subpar teams every single week. Try playing Tech, followed by Texas, followed by OU, followed by Missouri and then let's see how they look. Not exactly the same as the Nevada, San Jose State, Idaho and Utah State gauntlet.

Again, this is your opinion. Nothing more.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I don't get this comparison. TCU walked into the Rose Bowl and thumped Wisconsin. Everyone and their grandmother said they couldn't do it, but they did.

With a much healthier team because their starters sat ut the second half of most games. The road is the issue here, not the destination. Any good team can get up for and win one game, but Wisconsin had to do that every week. TCU didnt.

I am not a betting man, but I WOULD HAVE bet if they had played Texas A&M, Texas, and OU last year, they would have beaten all three of them too. TCU was THAT good last year.

Any one of them maybe, but play all three in the same year and they don't go 3-0. That's the point.

I wouldn't doubt that BSU could walk into Austin and beat Texas this year. Texas A&M, yes. Them too.

Could they beat both teams? Yes, but play them back to back and I promise they'll lose to at least one of them, and again that's the point.

 

[YosemiteSam]

That's right. I forgot. TCU is the only team that only plays one game a year.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Could they beat both teams? Yes, but play them back to back and I promise they'll lose to at least one of them, and again that's the point.

Why is it the point? Say, Texas has to play OU and THEN TCU. No way Texas can win both......right?

I've heard this argument 50 times and it's only said by teams in conferences that are afraid to play these schools. ...but never proven that it's true.

 

[Kolemmitt]

With a much healthier team because their starters sat ut the second half of most games. The road is the issue here, not the destination. Any good team can get up for and win one game, but Wisconsin had to do that every week. TCU didnt.



Any one of them maybe, but play all three in the same year and they don't go 3-0. That's the point.



Could they beat both teams? Yes, but play them back to back and I promise they'll lose to at least one of them, and again that's the point.

Responding to your posts is like speaking to brick wall. In my humble experience any one that uses so many definites in sports knows very little about it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

With a much healthier team because their starters sat ut the second half of most games. The road is the issue here, not the destination. Any good team can get up for and win one game, but Wisconsin had to do that every week. TCU didnt.



Any one of them maybe, but play all three in the same year and they don't go 3-0. That's the point.



Could they beat both teams? Yes, but play them back to back and I promise they'll lose to at least one of them, and again that's the point.

I think I pointed this out earlier but lets just make sure that we are all talking about the same thing here. "IF" BSU is invited to join the Big 12, they will not be playing a schedule of Texas, TECH, OU, OKSt. all in a row IMO.

They will probably be playing in the North, which means that all they have to do, in order to qualify for a Bowl Bid is to win the North. Those teams currently consist of KState, Iowa State, Kansas, Mizzu, probably BYU and then probably 3 or 4 games against the South. Those games can be anybody in the South, it does not have to be Texas, OU, OKSt or TCU every year.

Again, if Boise State gets offered, I see their chances of getting a Bowl Bid in the Big 12 much better then TAMUs chances are of winning the SEC West which consists of Auburn, Arkansas, LSU, Bama, Miss St., Ole Miss and the three or four East teams which consist of South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky and Vandy.

 

[Kolemmitt]

I am a big Boise fan and I think that they would be competetive in the BIG XII, but I think for now their best play is to stay in the MWC as their programs continue to grow. They have stadium expansion plans in place and will be starting this spring. Their stadium is almost always sold out, despite not having a competive game in Boise for five years, including visits from Oregon and Oregon St.

Their basketball team would be dead meat in the BIG XII, but they are getting better and they need to add baseball. Their academics have been improving, but they are still a relatively young university.

Eventually, I think both the BIG XII and the PAC -12 will expand to 16 and then Boise may be ready.

 

[Kolemmitt]

I think I pointed this out earlier but lets just make sure that we are all talking about the same thing here. "IF" BSU is invited to join the Big 12, they will not be playing a schedule of Texas, TECH, OU, OKSt. all in a row IMO.

I think you are right on. I also don't see the invite coming this year, but maybe the time expansion talk heats up.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I am a big Boise fan and I think that they would be competetive in the BIG XII, but I think for now their best play is to stay in the MWC as their programs continue to grow. They have stadium expansion plans in place and will be starting this spring. Their stadium is almost always sold out, despite not having a competive game in Boise for five years, including visits from Oregon and Oregon St.

Tell them to change the color of that damn turf! :laugh2:

I bet any conference that invites them, the first demand will be that they change that color!

 

[trickblue]

Again, Boise State looks great against the teams they are playing and because they get to play subpar teams every single week. Try playing Tech, followed by Texas, followed by OU, followed by Missouri and then let's see how they look. Not exactly the same as the Nevada, San Jose State, Idaho and Utah State gauntlet.

It's really hard to gauge as big schools won't schedule them...

The Boise State coach called out programs by name that refused to schedule them a couple of years ago. You can't blame those schools. Most all of them schedule also-rans and DII schools in order to go into conference play undefeated. Scheduling Boise State would be very risky.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It's really hard to gauge as big schools won't schedule them...

The Boise State coach called out programs by name that refused to schedule them a couple of years ago. You can't blame those schools. Most all of them schedule also-rans and DII schools in order to go into conference play undefeated. Scheduling Boise State would be very risky.

Yep. Just ask OU how crappy BSU is right?