Marcus Peters speculation?

[RS12]

What I think the Greg Hardy signing, the Adrian Peterson rumors and the Marcus Peters speculation say is that the Cowboys are looking to add top talents at lower-than-expected prices. Hardy certainly came in cheaper. They would hope they could get Peterson for less than the $12.75 million he is set to make. They know Peters has ability that should get him drafted higher than No. 27 overall. A lot of the draft and free agency for Jerry Jones is the art of the deal.

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[RS12]

First I have heard of any interest in him. If you are going to draft a corner get the best one you can get. Might be him though.

 

[RS12]

@toddarcher: I don't see it. If you look at the names of the players they brought in at defensive end, the only possible trade-up would be Bud Dupree, and I'm not sure how far they would have to go up to get him. They would have to give up too much to move way up, and they need the picks to get players. I don't see defensive tackle in play in the early rounds. I think you could see them go defensive end in the first or second rounds and maybe again late. I usually say never say never when it comes to Jerry Jones on draft day, but I'm fairly confident they won't move way up to get an elite pass rusher. Maybe they would move up four or five spots if a guy drops, but even that is dicey.

 

[endersdragon]

I don't see them going after a CB who isn't a RKG in the first. The warning signs were there with Mo and we ignored them, and Marcus has even more warning signs (fighting with coaches in college suggests to me that he might be uncoachable in the pros). I would far rather them take Kevin Johnson or even wait and take a guy who just be a good NB later on.

 

[CF74]

Supposed to be a physical talent. We could use more force on the edges but he is a question mark...

 

[darthseinfeld]

First I have heard of any interest in him. If you are going to draft a corner get the best one you can get. Might be him though.

Correct if Im wrong but isnt that just a fan question to Archer.

 

[RS12]

Correct if Im wrong but isnt that just a fan question to Archer.

Yes but apparently both the fan and Archer have heard this speculation. I havent and I follow this pretty close. So I was wondering if anyone else had.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Dude has major red flags and a serious attitude problem if you believe the rumors. He could be bipolar

I would avoid him myself

 

[endersdragon]

Dude has major red flags and a serious attitude problem if you believe the rumors. He could be bipolar

I would avoid him myself

I don't think their is a position on defense that has less NFL ready players than CB, a DE with attitude problems okay fine... a LB with attitude problems... not ideal but workable... but CBs need to be coached up so much, almost as much as WRs, that a guy that has a history of being this uncoachable is just scary to me.

 

[RandyOh]

I was once high on Marcus peters but that was before looking at the other corners in this draft. The only corner i want in the 1st is KJ. Ive said it a few times on here but if Peters is BPA i would use him to trade back to one of the bad teams that are hurting for top talent. Better than letting the Pats walk away with top tier talent with the 32nd pick.

 

[Bigdog]

Peters has old adage of million dollar talent with 5 cent head. I would not like him. I agree with other posters that Kevin Johnson or another Cb would be better.

 

[Zekeats]

I don't see them going after a CB who isn't a RKG in the first. The warning signs were there with Mo and we ignored them, and Marcus has even more warning signs (fighting with coaches in college suggests to me that he might be uncoachable in the pros). I would far rather them take Kevin Johnson or even wait and take a guy who just be a good NB later on.

What signs did MO have? To me if you go back and look at his highlights everyone on here would have thought we were getting a top notch corner regardless what people say now.

 

[AmericanCowboy]

Peters is a top 10 talent. There is leadership on this defense- i dont think picking him would be harmful.

 

[xwalker]

What signs did MO have? To me if you go back and look at his highlights everyone on here would have thought we were getting a top notch corner regardless what people say now.

A 4 on the Wonderlic. Now that we have gotten to know him that score seems accurate.

 

[Zekeats]

A 4 on the Wonderlic. Now that we have gotten to know him that score seems accurate.

Who cares about a wonderlic for a corner. All he has to do is cover. I read somewhere Deion didn't even do the Wonderlic. Oh Frank Gore scored a super low wonderlic too and he turned out all right. Regardless of scores, tests or anything else Claiborne was highly regarded as one of the top corner talents in about ten years. The Cowboys turned a man-man corner into a zone corner and the bottom line was that the thought was that he was the next great cover corner.

 

[Leadbelly]

Aside from top guy, Trae Waynes, we brought in or had a prior private workout with every other top CB with the exception of Rowe (i think?) and Peters.

Given our apparent affinity for former Boise St coach, I suspect we've heard the truth on Peters. I like him, but he's someone a team would definitely want to talk with more than superficially and we don't seem to have done it. Wouldn't we bring him in if we were interested?

 

[Kaiser]

Aside from top guy, Trae Waynes, we brought in or had a prior private workout with every other top CB with the exception of Rowe (i think?) and Peters.

Good point (I think Rowe has come in for a visit however). IMO Peters is a guy that will be overdrafted by a team that needs to plug in a draft pick as an immediate starter. I think its very unlikely Carr is cut outright and a CB drafted by Dallas will have time to develop with no pressure to start in his first year. I do think CB is the mostly likely position we draft in the first round, but the team has no reason to gamble. They can take a player with the physical skills who just needs some coaching to be a quality starter - and there are plenty of candidates for that.

 

[xwalker]

Who cares about a wonderlic for a corner. All he has to do is cover. I read somewhere Deion didn't even do the Wonderlic. Oh Frank Gore scored a super low wonderlic too and he turned out all right. Regardless of scores, tests or anything else Claiborne was highly regarded as one of the top corner talents in about ten years. The Cowboys turned a man-man corner into a zone corner and the bottom line was that the thought was that he was the next great cover corner.

Claiborne is mentally/emotionally weak.

All NFL teams play a mix of man and zone. All CBs need to be able to play zone.

One of the plays that kills Claiborne is when 2 receivers on the same side play tricks where they cross each other and cause a legal pick type play. The CBs have to be coordinated on that play and it usually requires switching off. Claiborne just can't get that down despite how many times Scandrick tries to explain it to him.

Man coverage is all about physical ability.

Zone coverage requires more mentally than man coverage.

The reason Claiborne has problems in zone is because he can't handle the mental aspect of it. The Wonderlic was an indicator. The Cowboys didn't follow up with an in depth review of his mental makeup because they didn't think there was any chance they would be drafting him. They didn't talk to him at all prior to the draft. This was part 1 of 2 that put Ciscowski on the path to being demoted.

 

[Tezz]

There is a lot of buzz that Peters is most likely the Ravens numero uno guy if he makes it to 26

 

[Zekeats]

Claiborne is mentally/emotionally weak.

All NFL teams play a mix of man and zone. All CBs need to be able to play zone.

One of the plays that kills Claiborne is when 2 receivers on the same side play tricks where they cross each other and cause a legal pick type play. The CBs have to be coordinated on that play and it usually requires switching off. Claiborne just can't get that down despite how many times Scandrick tries to explain it to him.

Man coverage is all about physical ability.

Zone coverage requires more mentally than man coverage.

The reason Claiborne has problems in zone is because he can't handle the mental aspect of it. The Wonderlic was an indicator. The Cowboys didn't follow up with an in depth review of his mental makeup because they didn't think there was any chance they would be drafting him. They didn't talk to him at all prior to the draft. This was part 1 of 2 that put Ciscowski on the path to being demoted.

NOT true.......First off Revis is always locked up in man. For his first season under Rob Ryan he was locked up in man to man and he had a decent rookie year.

Claiborne was drafted to play man to man bump and run coverage. He gets beat when he plays off with no contact. Let this guy play to his strengths and not his weaknesses.