Marion Barber should be the 1st team RB.

[CrazyCowboy]

I agree with you on this note--Barber deserves the chance

 

[burmafrd]

Why does barber deserve the chance to start? Based on the few carries he gets? Shades of Hambone. You do not change your starter unless you are SURE the other guy will give you more? What has Barber done that indicates he will? The only other reason is if the starter is not doing a good job. Top 10 in the NFL in rushing is not a good job? Just plain dumb.

 

[Hoov]

i dont remember drives stalling because jones didnt get the first down.

 

[Hoov]

jones got hit for that safety, but i dont think the play call was a good one in that situation. should have let romo try a short pass to give them some room to work.

 

[Clove]

Barber can be used more of a weapon on offense in that he can run, he kills blitzers, and his receiving is far superior than Jones.

I would split the time equally, and I can imagine how good Barber would be on screens, the guy had this dog in him that fights for 1st downs like no other.

 

[burmafrd]

Barber is not that much better a receiver now that JJ has worked on his receiving. He is a better blocker no arguement. BUT that does not add up to him being the starter.

 

[Martice]

JJ should be the starter. However, the amount of times that we see him on the field should be reduced. I don't care if he has a 1000 yards or not. It is the game within the game. JJ hasn't taken control of a game yet this year. We haven't been able to ride him despite his 700 yards so far. He'll give you yards when the hole is there. MB will make the hole. JJ will make some people miss. MB will make some miss and then make some people wish they missed. Anyone comparing MB to Hambrick needs to stop right now. Hambrick is not the same type of player that MB is. Talent wise, Hambrick isn't even in the same league as MB.

MB is better at blocking on pass plays than JJ. He is a better at pass catching out of the back field where usually, a runner has to beat the first man one on one in order to get anything positive on the play. MB is not getting caught by the first defender. JJ has a greater likelihood of going down when hit than MB does.

I think the way the runners are being utilized is totally wrong. I think we can be a lot more creative in how we use both of our talented backs. The coaching staff could do a lot better with this talent set.

In closing, JJ can still get his thousand yards and get the glory. However, in crunch time I'm giving MB the ball.

 

[Concord]

If Barber had Jones' speed, Jones wouldn't be starting.

It's the only thing that Jones has over Barber.

 

[Crown Royal]

I'd be shocked that so many people want this if it wasn't so obvious that people would knee jerk to it.

1) There is absolutely no reason to make a change. We are running the ball as effectively as you can. Don't fix what ain't broke.

2) People see Barber bowl people over and don't consider two things a) it isn't as if Jones goes down with the first hit. The guy IS breaking tackles and getting a fantastic average. b) ever stop to consider that barber is one play away from a major injury with his running style, and that the fact that he is getting less carries ALLOWS him to get those great hard runs?

3) Barber isn't playing a whole lot better than Jones. They are both getting great yards. It isn't as if he would be getting more yards than Jones if they had the same number of carries. It would probably be closer to equal. So I still don't see the difference.

4) Starting RB in our offense is a poor name - it doesn't matter. One RB is going to get 20-25 carries, another 10-15. Right now it is Jones with the former, Barber with the latter. There is absolutely no reason to change this formula.

 

[aikemirv]

Barber would not last 5 years in the league if he were the starter. The guy is a beast and takes on tacklers head on and bullies them. It is fun to watch but it would take its toll on him over the course of the season if he were running 20-25 a game and he would wear down


You have to love watching him run though!

 

[Crown Royal]

Barber would not last 5 years in the league if he were the starter. The guy is a beast and takes on tacklers head on and bullies them. It is fun to watch but it would take its toll on him over the course of the season if he were running 20-25 a game and he would wear down


You have to love watching him run though!

I don't know for sure that he would get injured - he seems to have a good history of staying healthy. The guy can play. I just don't see what is wrong with our RB tandem the way it is. It seems people have to have 'favorite players' and want to see them more, instead of just seeing that both our RBs are very good.

 

[Manster68]

There have been many good point made in this thread.

I totally agree with the poster that said "If it is not broke, then don't fix it."

Aikemirv makes a good point saying that Barber may not last 5 years in the league with the way he runs.

This running tandem is fine just the way it is. It is too bad that Thompson got injured. As compliments, I do like the way Hoyte and backup TE Tony Curtis blocks. Too bad Curtis has to be inactive the last couple of weeks. He made so crushing blocks on Mario Williams several weeks ago.

 

[Black Bantam 74]

Barber has much better vision, hands, and blocking skills.

Fixed. Barber easily passes Jones in all 3 of those categories.

 

[es22]

Barber would not last 5 years in the league if he were the starter. The guy is a beast and takes on tacklers head on and bullies them. It is fun to watch but it would take its toll on him over the course of the season if he were running 20-25 a game and he would wear down


You have to love watching him run though!

You cant base a decision on longevity. Although i prefer Barber, i like our tandem 9thunder adn lightning). I just wish Barber would get in the game more as he does add a spark to the team.

Jones has speed, but he can be neutralized. Barber adds another dimension. Presently, when you see Barber in, the defence adjusts to their passing schemes. It would be nice to not dictate our offence via the RB.

 

[kbman]

MBIII= No Saftey:starspin

 

[harkm]

Barber looks like the better football player to me. Parcells should increase his time accordingly until, eventually, Barber plays the majority of the plays. You can tell that Parcells loves Barber and is itching to increase his time.

 

[dboyz]

I wouldn't start Barber, but I would be interested in seeing him get a few more carries.

 

[smarta5150]

And Brian Jacobs of the Giants should start over Tiki Barber...

( please notice the sarcasm )

Just because he finishes off his runs better doesnt mean he can run like that 25 times a game. He gets his 7-10 carries so he can go all out of those few plays. Its like a closer in baseball... Zuamayaya (sp?) throws 103 but that doesnt mean he can go out, start, and pitch 7 innings of 100+ I love MBIII as he is, a spell back for our starting RB JJ.

 

[ZiggyZ.]

Glad someone else sees this obvious point, too. MBIII runs with an attitude and a lust for violent collisions. Isn't that what BP teams are supposed to be all about?

Start him. After he softens them up, bring in Jones for some evasive spin moves and such, and I bet Jones is a lot more effective then.

Nice post.

 

[SBChamps]

Barber is averaging little less than 8 carrie a game. I would like to see him get few more carries(around 10-13).

Have him play a whole O-series late 3rd to early 4th quarter so JJ is fresh to finish the game.