Marshall Faulk: I would have taken money in college

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Another interesting topic Faulk hit on was the concept of players like Reggie Bush and O.J. Mayo accepting money while they’re in college.

Heck yeah, I would have taken it,” Faulk told Moore. “I’m not gonna lie to you, there’s no doubt about it.”

“Nah, I went to San Diego State,” Faulk said. “Other than good weather, they didn’t have much to offer me, unfortunately. I wish I’d gone to a bigger program and had them slide me some cash to take care of my family, but that wasn’t the case.”
While it’s certainly not morally correct, Faulk is being honest and you can’t blame him for that. These are 17, 18, and 19-year-old kids who for the most part have never had any type of significant money in their pockets. When someone you trust with your future says take this money, you don’t question it.
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That's always good to tell the kids Marshall.
 

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He's just being honest. If I had his talent I probably would too. The only thing that would stop me is if I got caught I would screw over the program. Plus these athletes bring in millions for their schools.
 

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I don't fault him for that. Some guys may have families that badly need money. One has to take it.
 

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Wonderboyromo;3450403 said:
I don't fault him for that. Some guys may have families that badly need money. One has to take it.

This is what gets overlooked alot. Most of these kids come from poor backgrounds with usually just their mom trying to make a living for the fam. It's hard for them NOT to take the loot...
 

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Cover 2;3450400 said:
He's just being honest. If I had his talent I probably would too. The only thing that would stop me is if I got caught I would screw over the program. Plus these athletes bring in millions for their schools.

How come when anyone says they bring in millions for schools they never mention the fact they are also getting a free education while auditioning for the NFL with an opportunity to make millions if they are a good enough player.

These schools should probably hand over something in return.

But then the other athletes from other sports will want something as well.

Then it's not amateur sports anymore.

It's a slippery slope all around, but telling kids out there to blatantly break the rules isn't a wise decision by Faulk.

Say some kid reads this and decides that Faulk is right. The kid takes the money and winds up losing his scholarship and his opportunity. Marshall Faulk didn't lose anything, but the kid screwed himself.

Maybe Faulk should use his leverage as an known athlete to work on some committees to push the NCAA into providing help to these kids and their families which don't make them professional athletes.
 

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Wonderboyromo;3450403 said:
I don't fault him for that. Some guys may have families that badly need money. One has to take it.

Actually they don't.

I don't care if Faulk is being honest, it's still wrong. What about the kids who grew up in the same background but also didn't have god given athletic ability to be a college star? This whole concept is just morally wrong and no matter what the intentions are, accepting the money also makes that person wrong.
 

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Mansta54;3450408 said:
This is what gets overlooked alot. Most of these kids come from poor backgrounds with usually just their mom trying to make a living for the fam. It's hard for them NOT to take the loot...

What does it matter.

They know the rules going into the situation.

If that's the case then don't sign on with the University.

Go play semi-pro until you are 20 years old and then enter the NFL as a Free Agent.

Telling kids to knowingly break the rules that they knew were in place is a dumb thing to do.
 

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dcfanatic;3450410 said:
How come when anyone says they bring in millions for schools they never mention the fact they are also getting a free education while auditioning for the NFL with an opportunity to make millions if they are a good enough player.

These schools should probably hand over something in return.

But then the other athletes from other sports will want something as well.

Then it's not amateur sports anymore.

It's a slippery slope all around, but telling kids out there to blatantly break the rules isn't a wise decision by Faulk.

Say some kid reads this and decides that Faulk is right. The kid takes the money and winds up losing his scholarship and his opportunity. Marshall Faulk didn't lose anything, but the kid screwed himself.

Maybe Faulk should use his leverage as an known athlete to work on some committees to push the NCAA into providing help to these kids and their families which don't make them professional athletes.

Kids an idiot and deserves it. Anyone stupid enough to let someone they have never met influence them into risking every is probably stupid enough to take the money anyway.
 

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dcfanatic;3450410 said:
How come when anyone says they bring in millions for schools they never mention the fact they are also getting a free education while auditioning for the NFL with an opportunity to make millions if they are a good enough player.

These schools should probably hand over something in return.

But then the other athletes from other sports will want something as well.

Then it's not amateur sports anymore.

It's a slippery slope all around, but telling kids out there to blatantly break the rules isn't a wise decision by Faulk.

Say some kid reads this and decides that Faulk is right. The kid takes the money and winds up losing his scholarship and his opportunity. Marshall Faulk didn't lose anything, but the kid screwed himself.

Maybe Faulk should use his leverage as an known athlete to work on some committees to push the NCAA into providing help to these kids and their families which don't make them professional athletes.
People are generally going to act in their own self interest. That includes players and boosters. Out of all the athletes that get caught, it's probably a drop in the bucket to those that never do (this last sentence was pure speculation on my part).

I understand what you're saying, but cars and money are still cars and money, so I would be very tempted to take them.

If you had a single mother working to support your siblings by working multiple jobs, would you not want to take the cash to help her out?
 

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dcfanatic;3450413 said:
What does it matter.

They know the rules going into the situation.

If that's the case then don't sign on with the University.

Go play semi-pro until you are 20 years old and then enter the NFL as a Free Agent.

Telling kids to knowingly break the rules that they knew were in place is a dumb thing to do.

Ahh slow your roll dude. I didn't say taking the loot was right, I said I understand why they do. Big difference!!
 

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Someone should ask Faulk if he would have lied about talking with Deion.

This is some real nonsense. Dez gets suspended from the NCAA for lying, while Reggie Bush takes in boatloads of cash with no repercussions for himself.

I'm glad Dez got suspended- there's no other way we could have gotten him- but the while Dez was busted for lying about something that isn't a rules violation, Reggie violated the core standard of being a student-athlete- and Dez is the guy with character issues? Whatever.
 

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Cover 2;3450417 said:
People are generally going to act in their own self interest. That includes players and boosters. Out of all the athletes that get caught, it's probably a drop in the bucket to those that never do (this last sentence was pure speculation on my part).

I understand what you're saying, but cars and money are still cars and money, so I would be very tempted to take them.

If you had a single mother working to support your siblings by working multiple jobs, would you not want to take the cash to help her out?

This is exactly what I'm saying.. It's easy to see why they take the money. I grow up poor in a single parent household with my mom doing her best and you darn straight I wouldv't taking the loot too..
 

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Hoofbite;3450415 said:
Kids an idiot and deserves it. Anyone stupid enough to let someone they have never met influence them into risking every is probably stupid enough to take the money anyway.

Most kids are idiots by default.

This means they think they can get away with things.
 

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DC, he's not telling kids to take the money he's just saying he would've done it if given the opportunity to help his family.
 

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Cover 2;3450417 said:
People are generally going to act in their own self interest. That includes players and boosters. Out of all the athletes that get caught, it's probably a drop in the bucket to those that never do (this last sentence was pure speculation on my part).

I understand what you're saying, but cars and money are still cars and money, so I would be very tempted to take them.

If you had a single mother working to support your siblings by working multiple jobs, would you not want to take the cash to help her out?

Of course I would want to take the money.

But then I would also hope I would be smart enough to do it and screw up my golden opportunity at a free education and national audition for the NFL.

Why doesn't Faulk just tell the kids to sell drugs. You can make money selling drugs on campus and your family needs it.

So they should do it right?

Of course not. Because there are going to be consequences if you do.
 

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Mansta54;3450418 said:
Ahh slow your roll dude. I didn't say taking the loot was right, I said I understand why they do. Big difference!!

I agree.

But I am saying Faulk shouldn't be so flippant about saying this whether he would have done it or not.

He should be telling these young athletes to follow the rules, not break them.
 

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Rampage;3450422 said:
DC, he's not telling kids to take the money he's just saying he would've done it if given the opportunity to help his family.

Faulk is a role model.

He knows his words are going to be heard by young athletes who's minds are easily swayed.

I just think it was a poor decision to talk about it like that.
 

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If kids have poor families then the universities need to work with the NCAA to help take care of the families ..

Most of the athletes that take money do not do it primarily for their "poor" families .. of course that's the excuse they throw out there once caught .. instead they do it because they want the money for nice cars, expensive clothes, etc.

The poor families of those kids survived 18 years and I see no reason they cannot survive another 3-4 years until their son can make a lot of money.

-Reality
 

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Reality;3450429 said:
If kids have poor families then the universities need to work with the NCAA to help take care of the families ..

Most of the athletes that take money do not do it primarily for their "poor" families .. of course that's the excuse they throw out there once caught .. instead they do it because they want the money for nice cars, expensive clothes, etc.

-Reality


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