Marshall Faulk: I would have taken money in college

Reality;3450429 said:
If kids have poor families then the universities need to work with the NCAA to help take care of the families ..

Most of the athletes that take money do not do it primarily for their "poor" families .. of course that's the excuse they throw out there once caught .. instead they do it because they want the money for nice cars, expensive clothes, etc.

The poor families of those kids survived 18 years and I see no reason they cannot survive another 3-4 years until their son can make a lot of money.

-Reality
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Bingo.
 
Faulk is an idiot. I don't care what any athlete or singer thinks, they are a role model, automatically, when they accept money from the fans. You don't get to pick and choose. They want the fame and money but none of the responsibity. Faulk says he would take the money and guess how many will take that as advice? Because of USC's and Reggie's actions, kids who had nothing to do with it, will now suffer, if they decide to take action against USC and bowl bids.
Being honest doesn't equate to being smart.
 
I love the morality here... or at least this hilarious version of it.

Are we seriously calling taking money or other free gifts from willing parties immoral? If breaking rules are immoral than why don't we just shoot every player who commits a penalty in game?

Some in this thread are really ridiculous.

Players have been getting money and other enticements since the 1960's and no one was calling Tommy Nobis immoral.

Athletes have and always will receive special compensation. That's just the way it works.

For a star athlete who's making the university tons of money it is certainly not immoral, except perhaps that a bunch of old men are using him.

Do players need to seriously consider what's at stake before taking anything from anyone? Of course. If they give in and take freebies or cash is that all of a sudden some severe character flaw? Absolutely not.

The NCAA has inane rules that make some things legal and others not so much. You'd need to be a lawyer to truly understand it all. Now if you are Reggie Bush and you are having agents provide a house for your family you really do expect eventually to get caught and just don't care.
 
Reality;3450429 said:
If kids have poor families then the universities need to work with the NCAA to help take care of the families ..

Most of the athletes that take money do not do it primarily for their "poor" families .. of course that's the excuse they throw out there once caught .. instead they do it because they want the money for nice cars, expensive clothes, etc.

The poor families of those kids survived 18 years and I see no reason they cannot survive another 3-4 years until their son can make a lot of money.

-Reality
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I am going to surmise you never played football at a large university if you truly feel that way.

At Texas Tech they fed you 3 meals a day except on Sunday. On Sunday nights you were on your own... no meals. Very few football players had money coming in from family so we usually ate for free at various places around town. Our best players were getting plenty of freebies or small amounts of money for next to no work but it hardly afforded fancy clothes or cars. It did provide normal college student type partying or date money, cash to buy cd's and food money and some level of clothing allowance.

Most kids who are getting money are not getting Reggie Bush level dollars.

And it's not so much supporting their families (though that does happen on occasion) it is them being self-sufficient as adults.

Once you sign a scholarship you are locked into the system and can not simply go work whatever job you want. Everything from what classes you take to the summer job you hold are approved. The concept that coaches do not know what is going on is ridiculous. In fact coaches are the main source of income for some of these kids. Kid needs ot fly home to see a sick mom and has no cash? Barry Switzer handed a kid money for that. Why? Barry was smart enough to realize he was making 6 figured when half his team didn't even live in a house that cost 6 figures ever in their life.
 
jterrell;3450452 said:
I love the morality here... or at least this hilarious version of it.

Are we seriously calling taking money or other free gifts from willing parties immoral? If breaking rules are immoral than why don't we just shoot every player who commits a penalty in game?

Some in this thread are really ridiculous.

Players have been getting money and other enticements since the 1960's and no one was calling Tommy Nobis immoral.

Athletes have and always will receive special compensation. That's just the way it works.

For a star athlete who's making the university tons of money it is certainly not immoral, except perhaps that a bunch of old men are using him.

Do players need to seriously consider what's at stake before taking anything from anyone? Of course. If they give in and take freebies or cash is that all of a sudden some severe character flaw? Absolutely not.

The NCAA has inane rules that make some things legal and others not so much. You'd need to be a lawyer to truly understand it all. Now if you are Reggie Bush and you are having agents provide a house for your family you really do expect eventually to get caught and just don't care.
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if you can't see the difference between committing a penalty and taking huge amounts of money, risking your future and the future of your team and the players to come after you, I feel sorry for you - and I don't think anybody is excusing the scumbags in suits from any of this either. They all know before hand the rules of taking money. I don't want to hear any of this lawyer speak mumbo jumbo, they know full and well.
Just because players have been taking money for years doesn't make it right. Years ago, we didn't have the media exposure that's in place today. Even..even if you agree with it, you don't come out and say that you condone breaking rules.

Here's a good example, MLB. You, me and every baseball fan knows that the owners knew players were shooting roids but chose to look the other way, because it was bringing baseball back. Players got caught and payed the price and the owners turned their backs. The players knew it was wrong and did it anyway but it still didn't make it right.
 
Reality;3450429 said:
If kids have poor families then the universities need to work with the NCAA to help take care of the families ..

Most of the athletes that take money do not do it primarily for their "poor" families .. of course that's the excuse they throw out there once caught .. instead they do it because they want the money for nice cars, expensive clothes, etc.

The poor families of those kids survived 18 years and I see no reason they cannot survive another 3-4 years until their son can make a lot of money.

-Reality
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I disagree.

It's not the universities responsibility to provide for a family simply because a kid is a very talented athlete.

Kids with academic scholarships aren't given the world plus a free pass.

These athletes are given nearly everything. Tuition, books, housing, meals, private tutoring and everything else.

If you start making kids a meal ticket more than they already are, more and more kids will be forced through with inadequate educations and will be taken advantage of down the line.

Anyone who thinks the big schools aren't taking care of the athletes financially is fooling themselves. I've seen big name athletes driving around in cars they have no reason driving.

Keep the payments behind the scenes like they currently are.
 
jterrell;3450457 said:
I am going to surmise you never played football at a large university if you truly feel that way.

At Texas Tech they fed you 3 meals a day except on Sunday. On Sunday nights you were on your own... no meals. Very few football players had money coming in from family so we usually ate for free at various places around town. Our best players were getting plenty of freebies or small amounts of money for next to no work but it hardly afforded fancy clothes or cars. It did provide normal college student type partying or date money, cash to buy cd's and food money and some level of clothing allowance.

Most kids who are getting money are not getting Reggie Bush level dollars.

And it's not so much supporting their families (though that does happen on occasion) it is them being self-sufficient as adults.

Once you sign a scholarship you are locked into the system and can not simply go work whatever job you want. Everything from what classes you take to the summer job you hold are approved. The concept that coaches do not know what is going on is ridiculous. In fact coaches are the main source of income for some of these kids. Kid needs ot fly home to see a sick mom and has no cash? Barry Switzer handed a kid money for that. Why? Barry was smart enough to realize he was making 6 figured when half his team didn't even live in a house that cost 6 figures ever in their life.
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So it is okay as long as it is not "too much" eh??? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

It's funny that the kids managed to eat enough for 18 years and grow to become star athletes before college and I don't know of any public schools that are feeding kids more than one or two meals a day and only 5 days a week, but for some reason when they go to college they suddenly cannot survive without rule breaking hand-outs.

I feel bad for the kids .. having a college only give them a 4 year scholarship, free food and a dorm to stay in is just not enough any more. :rolleyes:

-Reality
 
Reality;3450429 said:
If kids have poor families then the universities need to work with the NCAA to help take care of the families ..

Most of the athletes that take money do not do it primarily for their "poor" families .. of course that's the excuse they throw out there once caught .. instead they do it because they want the money for nice cars, expensive clothes, etc.

The poor families of those kids survived 18 years and I see no reason they cannot survive another 3-4 years until their son can make a lot of money.

-Reality
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Actually, the money gets funneled to the family in many cases because a college student riding around in a nice car with new threads stands out like a sore thumb.
 
Didn't Faulk fault Romo once for saying something everyone knew was true, but that shouldn't be said aloud in the media?
 
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