Mavs win first pick in NBA lottery

J817 said:
Giannis doesn’t want to come here. Giannis is looking for a glamour market. Dallas is not that.
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That wasn’t really the question.

Giannis is signed through ‘27-‘28, so the team will have a big say on where he goes as well. There are only so many teams who will have the assets and only Dallas has a GM who would be willing to trade a generational player for a bag of beans. It may depend on how much he wants out.

And considering Giannis has chosen to play his entire career in Milwaukee, I’m not sure how high “glamor markets” are on his priority list. IMO, his priority is rings.
 
VaqueroTD said:
I’m just pissed my Spurs got so darn close to having the #1 overall again but lost it to the upstate Mavs. I didn’t think they would even get top 5. Most lucky draft team ever. Cooper Flagg was a position of need. Next best player is another guard. Spurs already have too many of them. Already reading and watching rumors of Spurs going for Giannis now with that pick. Hope so. Dylan Harper may be a great player but we’re already invested in Fox and Castle.
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I wanted him to go to a good teams I don’t think tankers should be rewarded. So realistically I was hoping Rockets or Spurs got it and Kd course
mavs but saw no way that would help
 
VaqueroTD said:
I’m just pissed my Spurs got so darn close to having the #1 overall again but lost it to the upstate Mavs. I didn’t think they would even get top 5. Most lucky draft team ever. Cooper Flagg was a position of need. Next best player is another guard. Spurs already have too many of them. Already reading and watching rumors of Spurs going for Giannis now with that pick. Hope so. Dylan Harper may be a great player but we’re already invested in Fox and Castle.
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Yeah but I don’t think you can never have too many guards though or maybe you ship one out in favor of a vet?
 
Spottswoode said:
That wasn’t really the question.

Giannis is signed through ‘27-‘28, so the team will have a big say on where he goes as well. There are only so many teams who will have the assets and only Dallas has a GM who would be willing to trade a generational player for a bag of beans. It may depend on how much he wants out.

And considering Giannis has chosen to play his entire career in Milwaukee, I’m not sure how high “glamor markets” are on his priority list. IMO, his priority is rings.
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Yeah I think he’s a competitor. He doesn’t strike me as a glamour market guy.
 
DasTex said:
No, no, no and no

The fillers would have to match a $50 million dollar salary.

That would be Klay, PJ and Gafford and then filler (Powell, Hardy, Omax, Williams..some combo of those) - plus a potential franchise player in Flagg.

You'd be in a very short term window and then nothing to show for it after it closes as you don't control majority of your own draft picks.
27, 28, 29 30, 31 are all swaps with other teams.
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I agree…they were arguing about it on ESPN this morning and the only guy who said he wouldn’t make the trade was being ganged up on by the others.

As far as salaries, Flagg’s first year should be ~$14M but I’m not sure how that works from a salary matching perspective on a pick trade prior to the draft.

Regardless, I wouldn’t trade an 18 year old future star on a rookie contract who I can build around for the next 10-15 years for a player who will be 31 this year and is going to cost $175M over the next 3 years. And I’m a big Giannis fan.

Add in questions around Kyrie’s return and AD’s injury concerns and I think it would be a dumb move. But I do worry about Nico’s 3 year window statements.
 
VaqueroTD said:
I’m just pissed my Spurs got so darn close to having the #1 overall again but lost it to the upstate Mavs. I didn’t think they would even get top 5. Most lucky draft team ever. Cooper Flagg was a position of need. Next best player is another guard. Spurs already have too many of them. Already reading and watching rumors of Spurs going for Giannis now with that pick. Hope so. Dylan Harper may be a great player but we’re already invested in Fox and Castle.
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Spurs need another big and some serious outside shooting. I’m thinking the Spurs are going to use some of those draft resources that they have to go out and get a super star. And Castle better be in the gym as we speak launching 3’s.
 
Spottswoode said:
I agree…they were arguing about it on ESPN this morning and the only guy who said he wouldn’t make the trade was being ganged up on by the others.

As far as salaries, Flagg’s first year should be ~$14M but I’m not sure how that works from a salary matching perspective on a pick trade prior to the draft.

Regardless, I wouldn’t trade an 18 year old future star on a rookie contract who I can build around for the next 10-15 for a player who will be 31 this year and is going to cost $175M over the next 3 years. And I’m a big Giannis fan.

Add in questions around Kyrie’s return and AD’s injury concerns and I think it would be a dumb move. But I do worry about Nico’s 3 year window statements.
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I think you trade his draft rights or trade the pick before the draft. Once he is drafted and signed, I don't believe you can trade until after 30 days of the signing so can't use his cap figure into the equation.
 
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DasTex said:
I think you trade his draft rights or trade the pick before the draft. Once he is drafted and signed, I don't believe you can trade until after 30 days of the signing.
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I agree…what I was wondering was since there is a rookie scale and the lottery order is now known, if you trade a pick post lottery, is there any cap hold that would transfer and therefore count for salary matching purposes?

Or would Flagg offer no relief for salary matching, even though you know his first contract will be 4 for $63M and 13.8 year 1 (assuming he gets the 20% kicker).
 
Spottswoode said:
I agree…what I was wondering was since there is a rookie scale and the lottery order is now known, if you trade a pick post lottery, is there any cap hold that would transfer and therefore count for salary matching purposes?

Or would Flagg offer no relief for salary matching, even though you know his first contract will be 4 for $63M and 13.8 year 1 (assuming he gets the 20% kicker).
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Looks like there is a cap hold involved, even before signed. Good call...but still not trading it :)
 
Spottswoode said:
I agree…they were arguing about it on ESPN this morning and the only guy who said he wouldn’t make the trade was being ganged up on by the others.

As far as salaries, Flagg’s first year should be ~$14M but I’m not sure how that works from a salary matching perspective on a pick trade prior to the draft.

Regardless, I wouldn’t trade an 18 year old future star on a rookie contract who I can build around for the next 10-15 years for a player who will be 31 this year and is going to cost $175M over the next 3 years. And I’m a big Giannis fan.

Add in questions around Kyrie’s return and AD’s injury concerns and I think it would be a dumb move. But I do worry about Nico’s 3 year window statements.
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Yeah, Dumont is cheap too, part of the reason Luka is gone.
 
Mr_437 said:
Yeah, Dumont is cheap too, part of the reason Luka is gone.
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Pretty sure Dumont isn't cheap - think he was just clueless as to what Luka meant to the fanbase and what exactly Nico was doing.
Nico was probably pushing the narrative to him of paying Luka that much didn't make sense because he wouldn't be worth it in the end.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
Nico is not responsible for those guys and KP sucks now.
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You talk like Nico wasn't GM when Brunson and his father approached the Mavs twice telling the team they were ready to sign an extension and were turned away both times. Once before the season and once in Dec/Jan of that season. Nico was occupied by being "determined" to trade a 1st round pick for the mighty Christian Wood to notice that Brunson was walking out the door, which he did a month later. The same Christian Wood who had played for 7 different teams in 7 years.

Truth is that Nico Harrison was on thin ice over at Nike after botching a presentation to Steph Curry to re-sign him, which led Curry to sign with Under Armour and Nico was looking for an exit. He had zero NBA front office experience and the main reason (admittedly) Cuban hired him was due to his connections with players.

 
Spottswoode said:
That wasn’t really the question.

Giannis is signed through ‘27-‘28, so the team will have a big say on where he goes as well. There are only so many teams who will have the assets and only Dallas has a GM who would be willing to trade a generational player for a bag of beans. It may depend on how much he wants out.

And considering Giannis has chosen to play his entire career in Milwaukee, I’m not sure how high “glamor markets” are on his priority list. IMO, his priority is rings.
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Let’s just hope this Giannis thing is resolved rather quickly so we can move on and pick Flagg.
 
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