maybe a dumb question...

[rkell87]

with ten linemen could you have the team run two offenses simoutaniously?.... you know, get them more reps? have them really be prepared to step in and if they get beat its just because they are out matched(which i can live with)

i may be way off but i was just wondering this and just wanted to see what you guys think?

EDIT* i mean running two offenses in practice to get more reps and really be prepared to step in every week if called on( from a technique, blocking, play call, snap count etc. standpoint.)

 

[RS12]

When they have ten O Lineman that can actually play, we can check it out.

 

[dallasfaniac]

There's only one way I would even think about having 'another offense' and that's if I had a long play of say 70 yards that didn't go in and I quickly subbed off the first offense for the 2nd which was conveniently already on the sidelines by the far endzone. That way the defenders would either have to run like heck to beat the snap, be subbed themselves or take a timeout.

 

[Jay]

Are you talking about during practice or what?

 

[rkell87]

Are you talking about during practice or what?

yeah sorry i guess i didnt make that clear.

i ment running two offenses in practice at the same time to get them more reps.

 

[rkell87]

does anybody think this is a good idea....it is still bothering me

 

[goliadmike]

yeah sorry i guess i didnt make that clear.

i ment running two offenses in practice at the same time to get them more reps.

Are you going to clone the coaches?

 

[rkell87]

Are you going to clone the coaches?

john is jasons bro right? lets see if it runs in the family!

but for real somebody besides wade and jason cant run the second team?

 

[AsthmaField]

does anybody think this is a good idea....it is still bothering me

I see what you're saying. Let the first team practice against the first string defense... and at the same time let the second string (the other 5 OL) practice against backup defenders. That way the backups are getting just as many reps as the starter are in practice.

In theory, the problem of the backups never getting any practice reps would be eliminated.

Is it possible? Sure, I guess. Would any team do it? I seriously doubt that they would. Like someone already said, the coaches would be watching the starters and the majority of the staff would be only concerned with who is starting the game that week.

Actually, you could do a lot of 1-on-1 work with 1 OL and 1 DL and still get the backups a lot of work, regardless of how many OL the team kept.

It is a thought... but I don't think it is practical.

 

[rkell87]

I see what you're saying. Let the first team practice against the first string defense... and at the same time let the second string (the other 5 OL) practice against backup defenders. That way the backups are getting just as many reps as the starter are in practice.

In theory, the problem of the backups never getting any practice reps would be eliminated.

Is it possible? Sure, I guess. Would any team do it? I seriously doubt that they would. Like someone already said, the coaches would be watching the starters and the majority of the staff would be only concerned with who is starting the game that week.

Actually, you could do a lot of 1-on-1 work with 1 OL and 1 DL and still get the backups a lot of work, regardless of how many OL the team kept.

It is a thought... but I don't think it is practical.

valid points, i agree they wouldnt focus as much on the second team but could the assistants at least correct technique and things? or really i think just the extra live reps will have them ready to hit, and maybe help them be able pick up blitz and things.

i've been talking strictly lineman here but tash and the receivers would benefit the extra reps as well.

but your right it would be difficult to run two offenses but i think it could be done.

 

[goliadmike]

john is jasons bro right? lets see if it runs in the family!

but for real somebody besides wade and jason cant run the second team?

Actually, the point of my post is if you don't have the coaches watching over the players making sure they get things right there is no point in doing reps just to do reps.

Sure you can have John run plays with the second team that Jason wants, but who will be watching the first team Tight ends? As great as Witten is I'm sue he still needs coaching. What will you do about the line? Would you send Houck to watch the first or second team?

I think it would be more important to have all the position coaches watching the first team.

Like AsthmaField stated in theory you probably could do it, but I just don't think it is practical.

 

[LarryCanadian]

I think it is an interesting idea. Just need twice as many eyes watching and teaching. You could always swap it up so that 1st play 2nds and vice versa so that you could guage progress.

Reps are a funny thing. You wonder how an oline guy in particular can get better never even coming to a game. Other than pre-season they just don't get any real game-like experience.

Would be a lot more hands on repetition at practice instead of watching the crew in front of you.

I don't think this team will carry 10 oline for long though, maybe 1-2 weeks into season. One of Proctor, Holland, McQuistan, and Preston will be gone pretty soon I imagine, ESPECIALLY if they only take 7-8 Oline to game anyway. We need to shore up LB, DB spots for sure, and maybe even WR if these nagging little injuries flare up.

LarryCanadian

 

[rkell87]

I think it is an interesting idea. Just need twice as many eyes watching and teaching. You could always swap it up so that 1st play 2nds and vice versa so that you could guage progress.

Reps are a funny thing. You wonder how an oline guy in particular can get better never even coming to a game. Other than pre-season they just don't get any real game-like experience.

Would be a lot more hands on repetition at practice instead of watching the crew in front of you.

I don't think this team will carry 10 oline for long though, maybe 1-2 weeks into season. One of Proctor, Holland, McQuistan, and Preston will be gone pretty soon I imagine, ESPECIALLY if they only take 7-8 Oline to game anyway. We need to shore up LB, DB spots for sure, and maybe even WR if these nagging little injuries flare up.

LarryCanadian

yeah thats what im thinking regardless of how long we have them any extra reps can only benefit all of them right?

 

[rkell87]

Actually, the point of my post is if you don't have the coaches watching over the players making sure they get things right there is no point in doing reps just to do reps.

Sure you can have John run plays with the second team that Jason wants, but who will be watching the first team Tight ends? As great as Witten is I'm sue he still needs coaching. What will you do about the line? Would you send Houck to watch the first or second team?

I think it would be more important to have all the position coaches watching the first team.

Like AsthmaField stated in theory you probably could do it, but I just don't think it is practical.

yeah your right, dang i really want these guys better

 

[Jay]

Also got to think, twice the reps of everyone means twice the risk of injury. And is getting a rep against a 2nd teamer as effective as getting a rep against a 1st teamer? It is true, getting reps without supervision by our top coaches is pretty worthless.

I think we just need to trust things are being handled, and people are being prepared to step up if they need to.

 

[rkell87]

Also got to think, twice the reps of everyone means twice the risk of injury. And is getting a rep against a 2nd teamer as effective as getting a rep against a 1st teamer? It is true, getting reps without supervision by our top coaches is pretty worthless.

I think we just need to trust things are being handled, and people are being prepared to step up if they need to.

this is what im afraid of lol