Maybe T.o Is Not At Fault

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i was anti-t.o but now i am FOR T.O.

it is not his fault for the division of the locker room and if we cut him i dont think we will be better. HE JUST LIKES WINNING

now he mite say some things but if he doesnt say the things he says then who will. plus he is one of the only leaders we have

OFFCOURCE HE WANTS THE BALL ALL THE TIME but that is because he is that good and knows he can help when given the opportunity.

now what i think cost us the Steelers game was jason and romo all the way. i think those two drew up a play that was not the original play called and it didnt work.

now that kind of stuff shouldnt be going on. that causes team division not T.O

can you honestly say before T.O came our team was 1 and we were clicking on all cylinders? NO

I THINK T.O IS ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT WINNING.

if i was T.O i would be ticked too.

ROMO stares down witten every single play... now i dont know about the rest of you but running routes is very tireing.

when you look at romo make dumb throws you just look at him like *** was he thinking and that also makes T.O mad.

When you like wining so much. i guess it would ONLY make sense to get mad when things go wrong. i mean look at thomas jones. hes been basically quiet throughout his career and favre's stupid mistakes made him very angry....

so it is not T.O's fault.. blame it on every1 else who is nt doing their job
 

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Or maybe he is.

Or Jerry.

Or the media.

Or Barbie Crapenter.

Or Crayton.

Or Wade.

Or the fans.

We may never know.
 

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Everything isn't T.O.'s fault. But he sure is apart of the myriad of problems with this team.
 

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Can I just post this in every TO fault/no fault thread and close the thread? LOL

On TO:

TO is a great athlete who draws double coverage from opposing defenses

TO is a pretty good blocker

TO can cause problems in a locker room

TO has been with two other franchises and had major issues with both

TO is 35 years old and not getting younger, he does what he does and won't get better at it.

TO drops a lot of passes, mostly ones we really need him to catch

TO makes some great catches also

TO pouts

TO stops running routes sometimes and often does not fight for passes not throw perfectly

TO went on Primetime TV wearing an EAGLES colored shirt to call out our coaching staff.

On Garrett:

Garrett is a 41 year old coach that can still grow in his job.

Garrett is a former Cowboys QB so I believe in his loyalty.

Garrett as OC has ranked our offenses 3rd and 13th in his first two seasons, not amazing but still not worthy of saying he sucks yet.

Garrett did not do well with offensive adjustments this year

Garrett had to deal with key injuries this year and made a poor decision regarding his back up QB.

Garrett has never gone on public TV to call out any of his players for their lazyness or poor play which is totally obvious to any objective fan.

Garrett is well respected by other organizations and coaches

"Facts are stubborn things..." - John Adams
 

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On the playing field........my question is, after watching Fitz from Ariz get the ball when needed most against Carol. and Philly...

and he gets it on slants and across the middle.....ala M. Irvin., and he gets it w/o Boldin on the other side......and their #1 TE hurt and out.

my question........does not Garretts playbook have those patterns, does not Romo throw those patterns or do not our WR's even want to run those patterns?

If TO gets the ball even close to what Ariz is getting the ball to Fitz...the Locker room and sideline stuff is taken care of.......and wins are likely taken care of.
 

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TO wouldn't be near the problem he is if it wasn't for his past.

He gets so much attention that he can't help but be a distraction regardless of how good his behavior is.

I like TO. I hope he retires a Cowboy. But if Jerry believes that getting rid of the Owens circus will help this team than im all for it.

I just don't believe it will and I dont think we have the overall depth to overcome an injury at that position either.
 

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If you think his talent is not good enough for the money, then you make a move. But when I see a guy take a simple slant, and basically break tackles, and out run the entire young defense for a touch down, I don't see much decline in talent.

If the guy is getting in trouble with the law, can't co-exist with the head coach or other players, he has to go.

Why people whine about a guy not liking another player, or having issues with play calling, is insane to me. So we are not allowed to disagree with our coaches? Their's a difference between disagreeing, and refusing to work with the guy.

I disagree with people in my business all the time, but I still work with them, as does TO. Certain people I've worked with, I've wanted to beat the **** out of them but I didn't and we found a way to exist amongst one another.

I'll say it AGAIN. If you don't want a guy to speak his mind about something passionate to him, then don't speak your mind.
 

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sbark;2590535 said:
On the playing field........my question is, after watching Fitz from Ariz get the ball when needed most against Carol. and Philly...

and he gets it on slants and across the middle.....ala M. Irvin., and he gets it w/o Boldin on the other side......and their #1 TE hurt and out.

my question........does not Garretts playbook have those patterns, does not Romo throw those patterns or do not our WR's even want to run those patterns?

If TO gets the ball even close to what Ariz is getting the ball to Fitz...the Locker room and sideline stuff is taken care of.......and wins are likely taken care of.


Completely agree. I can't understand why we don't just get the ball in Owens hands instead of having him run defenders off on every pass play and looking for Witten.

Get TO the ball. Hes a beast and hard for the guys covering him to tackle.

He is the Marion Barber of Receivers. He will bully you.
 

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CATCH17;2590549 said:
Completely agree. I can't understand why we don't just get the ball in Owens hands instead of having him run defenders off on every pass play and looking for Witten.

Get TO the ball. Hes a beast and hard for the guys covering him to tackle.

He is the Marion Barber of Receivers. He will bully you.

Have you watched T.O. the last two seasons??? T.O. is not that receiver that he was in Philly and SF. Countless times in the past two seasons i have seen him try to dance around the defender(which he fails at) or simply just turtle to the ground so he wont get hit. Larry Fitzgerald is the MB3 of Receivers. T.O. isn't even close.
 

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Yoshimitsu;2590558 said:
Have you watched T.O. the last two seasons??? T.O. is not that receiver that he was in Philly and SF. Countless times in the past two seasons i have seen him try to dance around the defender(which he fails at) or simply just turtle to the ground so he wont get hit. Larry Fitzgerald is the MB3 of Receivers. T.O. isn't even close.

I've seen him drag some guys numerous times but not nearly as much as he used to and thats because he doesn't get the ball on shorter routes like he used to.

We use TO like Carolina uses Steve Smith basically.
 

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Yoshimitsu;2590558 said:
Have you watched T.O. the last two seasons??? T.O. is not that receiver that he was in Philly and SF. Countless times in the past two seasons i have seen him try to dance around the defender(which he fails at) or simply just turtle to the ground so he wont get hit. Larry Fitzgerald is the MB3 of Receivers. T.O. isn't even close.
No offense to you, but Fitzgerald is one of a kind. If you are going to tell me that TO is no Fitzgerald, then I'll tell you that Romo is no Rothlisberger, and Romo is no Kurt Warner, and Ware is no Harrison, these guys are in the SB, our guys are obviously trash.
 

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Yoshimitsu;2590440 said:
Everything isn't T.O.'s fault. But he sure is apart of the myriad of problems with this team.


Whoah.... a "myriad of problems".... WOW


Would you say that his signing has been a "Colossal" failure?



:laugh2:
 

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YoMick;2590693 said:
Whoah.... a "myriad of problems".... WOW


Would you say that his signing has been a "Colossal" failure?



:laugh2:


Can you say you are being a "gigantic" ***?

:lmao2:
 

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Clove;2590669 said:
No offense to you, but Fitzgerald is one of a kind. If you are going to tell me that TO is no Fitzgerald, then I'll tell you that Romo is no Rothlisberger, and Romo is no Kurt Warner, and Ware is no Harrison, these guys are in the SB, our guys are obviously trash.

The point wasn't to compare T.O. to Fitz. Its to respond to the stupid comment to say he is the MB3 of receivers. Me and you know Fitz is the MB3 of receivers. Sometimes people tend to read something and take what they want from it instead of what it really means.
 

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Yoshimitsu;2590743 said:
Can you say you are being a "gigantic" ***?

:lmao2:



That was weak.
I didnt personally attack you and this is a message board. Thats silly.

If you are going to post "ridiculous" things like "TO has caused a myriad of problems" be prepared to be called out for that nonsense.
 

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YoMick;2590749 said:
That was weak.
I didnt personally attack you and this is a message board. Thats silly.

If you are going to post "ridiculous" things like "TO has caused a myriad of problems" be prepared to be called out for that nonsense.

The funny thing is i didn't say that. This is what i said.

Yoshimitsu;2590440 said:
Everything isn't T.O.'s fault. But he sure is apart of the myriad of problems with this team.


Maybe someone should call you out for your ability to read.
 
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