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See a lot of folks mocking him to us lately and I was one of them. I think we all agree, and have for a decade or so, that we desperately need a big fat run plugger at the 1T that commands consistent double teams. Felt like Hankins was a big help until he got injured.
Anyway, anyone watch Mazi last night? Change of any opinions on him?
I paid more attention to him and I’ve lost some of my interest honestly.
I thought his get off was slow and although he made a play or two, seemed to get handled without a double…and TCU ran for 250+. thoughts?
 
See a lot of folks mocking him to us lately and I was one of them. I think we all agree, and have for a decade or so, that we desperately need a big fat run plugger at the 1T that commands consistent double teams. Felt like Hankins was a big help until he got injured.
Anyway, anyone watch Mazi last night? Change of any opinions on him?
I paid more attention to him and I’ve lost some of my interest honestly.
I thought his get off was slow and although he made a play or two, seemed to get handled without a double…and TCU ran for 250+. thoughts?
After Charlton I’d stay the hell away from scUM players.
 
After Charlton I’d stay the hell away from scUM players.
If you think he isnt worth the pick at their draft position I can respect that. The Taco argument is another story. I certainly would not avoid Caleb Williams because Sam Darnold didnt live up to expectations. I need to go back and watch more of him but I would certainly be a buyer in round 2 though I doubt he falls that far.
 
See a lot of folks mocking him to us lately and I was one of them. I think we all agree, and have for a decade or so, that we desperately need a big fat run plugger at the 1T that commands consistent double teams. Felt like Hankins was a big help until he got injured.
Anyway, anyone watch Mazi last night? Change of any opinions on him?
I paid more attention to him and I’ve lost some of my interest honestly.
I thought his get off was slow and although he made a play or two, seemed to get handled without a double…and TCU ran for 250+. thoughts?
I'm not on the Mazi in Dallas bandwagon. I'm more interested in a veteran on the market.
 
See a lot of folks mocking him to us lately and I was one of them. I think we all agree, and have for a decade or so, that we desperately need a big fat run plugger at the 1T that commands consistent double teams. Felt like Hankins was a big help until he got injured.
Anyway, anyone watch Mazi last night? Change of any opinions on him?
I paid more attention to him and I’ve lost some of my interest honestly.
I thought his get off was slow and although he made a play or two, seemed to get handled without a double…and TCU ran for 250+. thoughts?
I like Keeanu Benton from Wisconsin better - he seems more consistent than Mazi. Probably because of his wrestling background.
 
I like Keeanu Benton from Wisconsin better - he seems more consistent than Mazi. Probably because of his wrestling background.
Benton is a really good prospect. Smith is also very good prospect. Both guys are the kind of guys this team needs to draft and develop. Neither kid is going to step in and drastically change this defense. It usually takes some time to develop the talent.
 
I like Keeanu Benton from Wisconsin better - he seems more consistent than Mazi. Probably because of his wrestling background.

Benton is a really good prospect. Smith is also very good prospect. Both guys are the kind of guys this team needs to draft and develop. Neither kid is going to step in and drastically change this defense. It usually takes some time to develop the talent.

I would definitely say Benton is a more impressive player than Mazi is my eyes.

Benton reminds me alot of Daron Payne. Very good but not massive size (I think Payne was 320 when he can out, Benton I think is 315). However because they are incredibly strong, they about as movable as a 340 pound DT. Paynes value on passing downs increased while he was in thr pros, and Benton started showing ability as a pass rusher this year
 
Well, these two guys just became my first draft cutup watches of 2023.

The player Mazi reminds me of is actually Tyler Smith, in that he's just so naturally strong that he can generate power from bad positions. He didn't have good leverage a lot of the time, but he didn't need good leverage. I never saw him go further than 2 yards backwards, even vs double teams. He can always just sit his *** down and anchor.

His movement skills come in flashes. You see really good straight-line speed through open lanes, you see really good lateral agility when he has to move to match wide zone, you'll see him rip off of a guard and fly to the QB, but he never puts it together and wrecks games. 2.5 TFLs and 0.5 sacks is a super sketchy stat line for a supposed first round pick.

Benton is a REALLY sound run defender. He never just stands there and plays paddy-cake with guards... he's always low, he's always looking for an angle to get penetration. Him being a wrestler makes so much sense. His combination of natural strength and good technique is honestly pretty awesome. I just don't see a lot of tools as a pass rusher... he's straight-line fast, but not explosive and not agile at all. And he doesn't show a lot of finesse as a pass rusher, and plays it a lot like the run. Just kind of bull rushing and looking for an angle.

I'd grade Mazi as a pick #30-50 kind of player and Benton as a 50-70 kind of player. Mazi is a raw bag of tools right now, and I would not feel good about spending a first rounder on a DT with 2.5 TFLs. But I think that his worst case pretty similar to Benton's best case, as plugger NTs. Benton has a little higher floor, but IMO his floor and ceiling are almost touching each other. He'll play a lot of years in the league as an A'Shawn Robinson type. Mazi is Robinson if he doesn't work out and Kenny Clark if he does.
 
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Well, these two guys just became my first draft cutup watches of 2023.

The player Mazi reminds me of is actually Tyler Smith, in that he's just so naturally strong that he can generate power from bad positions. He didn't have good leverage a lot of the time, but he didn't need good leverage. I never saw him go further than 2 yards backwards, even vs double teams. He can always just sit his *** down and anchor.

His movement skills come in flashes. You see really good straight-line speed through open lanes, you see really good lateral agility when he has to move to match wide zone, you'll see him rip off of a guard and fly to the QB, but he never puts it together and wrecks games. 2.5 TFLs and 0.5 sacks is a super sketchy stat line for a supposed first round pick.

Benton is a REALLY sound run defender. He never just stands there and plays paddy-cake with guards... he's always low, he's always looking for an angle to get penetration. Him being a wrestler makes so much sense. His combination of natural strength and good technique is honestly pretty awesome. I just don't see a lot of tools as a pass rusher... he's straight-line fast, but not explosive and not agile at all. And he doesn't show a lot of finesse as a pass rusher, and plays it a lot like the run. Just kind of bull rushing and looking for an angle.

I'd grade Mazi as a pick #30-50 kind of player and Benton as a 50-70 kind of player. Mazi is a raw bag of tools right now, and I would not feel good about spending a first rounder on a DT with 2.5 TFLs. But I think that his worst case pretty similar to Benton's best case, as plugger NTs. Benton has a little higher floor, but IMO his floor and ceiling are almost touching each other. He'll play a lot of years in the league as an A'Shawn Robinson type. Mazi is Robinson if he doesn't work out and Kenny Clark if he does.
Pretty good take on both players. Neither guy is what we typically look for in the early rounds, but IMO that has to change.
 

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