McCarthy Record is sort of misleading and it shows in the playoffs

sacase

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I think the whole organization needs a sports psychologist. I think everyone top down starts to get tight come playoff time. I permeates through the whole organization leading to bad performance.
 

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So I have no idea what the answer is but how does this compare to other coaches in the league? What’s Sean McVays record against teams over 500? It’s not a bad talking point but some perspective to the numbers would be nice.
Good point. No way I’m doing the work, but I’d wager most teams in the 11-13 win range lately have a fair share of wins vs bad teams, and are probably around 50/50 vs the better ones….

The difference is knowing if you’re good enough when the competition gets tougher or if you’re a bit of a fraud with holes that are begging to be exploited.

They had a real shot in he last couple years but chose to be cheap and consequently short at least a player or two. Hope it was worth it to not pay Wagner and count on Damone Clark. Now we have NO cap problems!

Yes Stephen, we know draft picks are a better value, but……

How will they ever get over the hump? It’ll take miracles beyond what’s even possible.
 

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Good point. No way I’m doing the work, but I’d wager most teams in the 11-13 win range lately have a fair share of wins vs bad teams, and are probably around 50/50 vs the better ones….
Yeah this is my guess too. I was hoping it would be an easy search but even chat GPT is struggling to give me an easy answer. McVay is a career .606 winning percentage. McCarthy is .608. Since 2020 McCarthy is 49-35, McVay is 47-37. The division/schedule could play somewhat of an impact here, but I would assume for both that the majority of those wins have come against teams 500 or worse. Outside of KC and Buffalo I wonder if anyone has a HC with a great record against teams over .500?
 

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He is 31-11 vs teams under .500 and 19-27 vs teams .500 or better.

This is why we suck in the playoffs. McCarthy brings nothing to the Cowboys during gameday especially in the playoffs. After these past 5 years why are we even entertaining resigning him?

I guess we just like our guys.
Ughhh it's Jerry that is the problem get it through your head
 

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He is 31-11 vs teams under .500 and 19-27 vs teams .500 or better.

This is why we suck in the playoffs. McCarthy brings nothing to the Cowboys during gameday especially in the playoffs. After these past 5 years why are we even entertaining resigning him?

I guess we just like our guys.
Those are pretty damning numbers, lad.
MM is a caretaker coach, nothing more. He will turn in 12-win seasons if all the conditions are right But how many second-round playoffs wins does he have here?
One can get dizzy seeing his ups and downs at Green Bay, a tenure crowned by a Super Bowl in 2010.
 

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A good team will have about a .500 record against good teams over a five year period. A dominant team will have about a .650 record against good teams.

We are talking about competition exclusively in the top half of the league. A 46 game sample size is too small to base any confident conclusions. Even so, you would expect a winning team to be close to 23-23 against winning teams with a deviation of +/- 5 games. McCarthy is only 4 games under the average.

You would expect a good team to go .750 or more against teams under .500 while you would expect under .500 teams to go about .500 against the other poor teams and about .250 against the teams over .500.

As far as the playoff teams go, for the 43.7% that get there, the average record is obviously around .500, one team wins, one team loses. An average playoff record is nothing to be ashamed of. We are talking about competition against the league's elite teams. It was an accomplishment to get there but the reality is, "There can be only one."

McCarthy's overall playoff record is 11-11. Being average among the best is no disgrace. This is a small sample size, with the 4 Cowboys playoff games far too small to base any serious conclusions.

We should also take into consideration the fact that McCarthy didn't get to select the majority of his assistant coaches, he doesn't draft the players, he doesn't make free agency decisions. McCarthy doesn't even make the final decisions on who makes the team. He probably requires approval on the starters.

The Cowboys were an expansion team in 1960. Since then, 349 head coaches have passed through the NFL. Only 13 of them have taken their teams to 20 or more playoff games and McCarthy is one of them. His overall .500 playoff record places him between Don Shula and Bud Grant. You can assign a present or future Hall of Fame QB to every one of the 13 coaches.
 

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Playoff wins are 99% of the time against over .500 teams, so:

McVay - 7-4 in the playoffs.

McCarthy - 11-11 in the playoffs (1-3 with Dallas).
His record is better than the great Mike Tomlin who is 8-11 in playoffs and has lost 6 in a row,all one and done.
 

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Zero guarantees the next guy will be better but let’s not act like MM is an elite coach. He isn’t
 

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A good team will have about a .500 record against good teams over a five year period. A dominant team will have about a .650 record against good teams.

We are talking about competition exclusively in the top half of the league. A 46 game sample size is too small to base any confident conclusions. Even so, you would expect a winning team to be close to 23-23 against winning teams with a deviation of +/- 5 games. McCarthy is only 4 games under the average.

You would expect a good team to go .750 or more against teams under .500 while you would expect under .500 teams to go about .500 against the other poor teams and about .250 against the teams over .500.

As far as the playoff teams go, for the 43.7% that get there, the average record is obviously around .500, one team wins, one team loses. An average playoff record is nothing to be ashamed of. We are talking about competition against the league's elite teams. It was an accomplishment to get there but the reality is, "There can be only one."

McCarthy's overall playoff record is 11-11. Being average among the best is no disgrace. This is a small sample size, with the 4 Cowboys playoff games far too small to base any serious conclusions.

We should also take into consideration the fact that McCarthy didn't get to select the majority of his assistant coaches, he doesn't draft the players, he doesn't make free agency decisions. McCarthy doesn't even make the final decisions on who makes the team. He probably requires approval on the starters.

The Cowboys were an expansion team in 1960. Since then, 349 head coaches have passed through the NFL. Only 13 of them have taken their teams to 20 or more playoff games and McCarthy is one of them. His overall .500 playoff record places him between Don Shula and Bud Grant. You can assign a present or future Hall of Fame QB to every one of the 13 coaches.
Thanks for explaining …
Needed to happen.
 
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