McCarthy's Play Calling

[blueblood70]

yes he would lol jerry just wanted him because he likes him.

No I truly said what I said because Jerry Jones believed and we saw it the year before what we were lacking is a tough nose short yardage blocking and goal line type running back and that is what Ezekiel Elliott did well if they use hunter Enrico the year before properly I don't believe Jerry would have felt the need to even think about Ezekiel Elliott...

You need proof I mean do we need to sit here and talk about how you think and I should say you as in this place thinks that Jerry Jones medals he forces players on the field his pet cats how much they play how much they get on the field well then explain to me why Ezekiel has been a ghost the last month he's only making the field to give Rico a breather they all didn't even bring him in for some of the touchdown goal to go situations literally Jerry is never mandated any of the game day rosters and how they doubled out targets and snaps for what I think in this day and age with the way everybody knows everything real time spies all over TMZ somebody would actually came out and verified Jerry medals in game plans and he absolutely doesn't..

EE has all but disappeared and jerry doesn't seem concerned

oh by the way did you guys miss the little blurb by Mike McCarthy might have been yesterday the day before when he was asked by media on his relationship with Jerry and how the rosters built and he said he has far more power here and and making decisions on who's on this roster and who's not then he did in Green Bay isn't that something kind of odd right the meddling GM who forces players and coaches on a head coach and yet it's not true I mean all of it's not true I mean everybody likes to make narratives around here because they don't like Jerry yes Jerry's got a big mouth Jerry likes to report the injuries and he likes to talk but that doesn't make Jerry one of those guys who are actually affecting the culture on game day on the roster.

And lastly and this is important,​

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we have to go back on some of these head coaches and coordinators and Jerry does trust them he does give them leeway and sometimes we end up with a Taco/HIll/mazi not because of Jerry because he trusted his coaches/scouts, they asked him for a player they probably had a two way tie on the board on draft day and he went with the coaches suggestions some of these players are here that otherwise would not be here had Jerry probably put his foot down and said no and just went for BPA and I sure hope they're doing that this year...​

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So if you missed it Mike McCarthy literally flat out said he has far more decision making and power here than he had in Green Bay and filling out the roster...​

 

[Cmac]

What is Mike supposed to do? He has:

QBs that can’t throw
No RBs
A bad OL
Wideouts with no speed
TEs that can’t catch the ball
A star wideout that pouts
Mostly scrubs that would struggle to make other teams

He has nothing. This offense sucks.

.....and a ST coach that decides unsuccessful fake punts at the most inappropriate times. But I'm confused.......how does your list only impact the coach......just the coach? Why can't he be perfect & flawless and overcome since that's the requirement for Dak on this board?

 

[thunderpimp91]

Turpin doesn't need to be heavily targeted. He just needs to break free from the slot and sprint towards the safety, or get him on a deep corner route. That will carry some safety with him. That alone would open it up underneath for some under routes 10 to 15 yards downfield.

And if you see DCs not respecting Turpin going deep and just leaving a single safety to handle him, then Turpin will be able to beat most safeties downfield.

And hec, from the slot, in man, Turpin clearly has enough wiggle to break free right at the LOS on a slant...he can beat a lot of slot CBs at the LOS.

Let alone the occasional screen pass.

The bottom line is a DC would have to respect his speed. And if you don't, then just like he did recently, he can take a 5-yard slant to the house.

And since the Cowboys don't have many other game-breaking WRs, Turpin should be on field way more, as a threat. Tolbert? Mingo? Brooks? hec, we're happy if any of them even catch two passes in a game. And NONE of them are likely to have a 50+-yard TD.

Mike is just not creative enough, so we have to force the ball to CeeDee 15 times per game.

There are certainly some things I would change about McCarthys offense, especially in the run game, dont get me wrong, but this is exactly the type of post that I like to challenge people on when putting blame on McCarthy for not being creative.

How do we call him not modern or creative when the issue we have is that he's not doing one of the oldest most uncreative tricks in the book of having the fast guy run straight? Teams have figured out how to most neutralize those threats, and its easier than ever with teams playing mostly 2 deep shell and using their best athletes as pass rushers. The speedy receiver is great to have, but they need to be diverse in how they can attack a defense. Tyreek Hill hasnt had a great career just from being fast, thats what got him a shot in the NFL at all, but since coming into the NFL hes developed a full route tree and understands defenses becoming one of the best in the league and finding those underneath gaps.

Running a slot receiver straight up the middle or a deep corner is still only going to carry 1 defender with him unless their name is Ceedee Lamb on this team, so you're not really gaining a schematic edge this way you're simply just wasting a possible receiver as a decoy. Now there is some legitimacy to the idea that you can run a safety so deep that you expose a hole in zone coverage. The issue here is now you need Turpin to run anywhere from 20-40 yards upfield before this really happens with another WR coming in underneath that once Turpin is out of the zone. Even assuming a free release off the LOS for these receiving you're looking at 5-6 second play at minimum. In the NFL this year only 4 QBs have an average time to throw of more than 3 seconds (Purdy/Darnold/Hurts/Jackson). Pressure rates in the modern NFL are extremely high with the average QB being pressured on about 1/3rd of their drop backs. The Cowboys OL is not a great one this year, especially in the pass game on the edges. If you're going to use Turpin as a deep decoy for a longer developing play you really will need to keep in a TE and RB to block. That takes you from 5 eligible receivers pre snap to only having 3 run routes and one of those has very little chance to see the football thrown his way. Even if Turpin runs off the Safety in this scenario you have an issue of 3v7 in the secondary and the odds of getting that underneath WR open 10-15 yards down field becomes much less likely.

I'd actually argue that passing offenses have become less complex over the last decade, not more. We see the same route concepts by every team, and its the same ones that have been ran since the early 2000s. Formations and personnel groups have changed. We see some fads sprinkled in how the hurry up offense became so popular for a bit, now motion rates how become the hot topic although a lot of data suggests that is starting to get neutralized by defenses. For the most part though passing games in this league are very similar, it seems to be the run games that are separating good offenses from bad ones, with a handful of exceptions. This is also where most of the offensive creativity has been coming from the last few years between the league adopting more athletic OL and QBs running by design at increased levels.

 

[KMY_Amber]

There are certainly some things I would change about McCarthys offense, especially in the run game, dont get me wrong, but this is exactly the type of post that I like to challenge people on when putting blame on McCarthy for not being creative.

How do we call him not modern or creative when the issue we have is that he's not doing one of the oldest most uncreative tricks in the book of having the fast guy run straight? Teams have figured out how to most neutralize those threats, and its easier than ever with teams playing mostly 2 deep shell and using their best athletes as pass rushers. The speedy receiver is great to have, but they need to be diverse in how they can attack a defense. Tyreek Hill hasnt had a great career just from being fast, thats what got him a shot in the NFL at all, but since coming into the NFL hes developed a full route tree and understands defenses becoming one of the best in the league and finding those underneath gaps.

Running a slot receiver straight up the middle or a deep corner is still only going to carry 1 defender with him unless their name is Ceedee Lamb on this team, so you're not really gaining a schematic edge this way you're simply just wasting a possible receiver as a decoy. Now there is some legitimacy to the idea that you can run a safety so deep that you expose a hole in zone coverage. The issue here is now you need Turpin to run anywhere from 20-40 yards upfield before this really happens with another WR coming in underneath that once Turpin is out of the zone. Even assuming a free release off the LOS for these receiving you're looking at 5-6 second play at minimum. In the NFL this year only 4 QBs have an average time to throw of more than 3 seconds (Purdy/Darnold/Hurts/Jackson). Pressure rates in the modern NFL are extremely high with the average QB being pressured on about 1/3rd of their drop backs. The Cowboys OL is not a great one this year, especially in the pass game on the edges. If you're going to use Turpin as a deep decoy for a longer developing play you really will need to keep in a TE and RB to block. That takes you from 5 eligible receivers pre snap to only having 3 run routes and one of those has very little chance to see the football thrown his way. Even if Turpin runs off the Safety in this scenario you have an issue of 3v7 in the secondary and the odds of getting that underneath WR open 10-15 yards down field becomes much less likely.

I'd actually argue that passing offenses have become less complex over the last decade, not more. We see the same route concepts by every team, and its the same ones that have been ran since the early 2000s. Formations and personnel groups have changed. We see some fads sprinkled in how the hurry up offense became so popular for a bit, now motion rates how become the hot topic although a lot of data suggests that is starting to get neutralized by defenses. For the most part though passing games in this league are very similar, it seems to be the run games that are separating good offenses from bad ones, with a handful of exceptions. This is also where most of the offensive creativity has been coming from the last few years between the league adopting more athletic OL and QBs running by design at increased levels.

I understand your response, and some of it I agree with. But, no, I don't think McCarthy is using all the resources this team has creatively enough.

Turpin can run sprints, screens, slants, corners and more...and would be a real downfield threat, and even a screen threat. You could fake the screen to Turpin and hit someone downfield behind those that cheat up. Turpin can do more to effect the game, I believe more than Tolbert, and more than Mingo and Brooks combined. He's already proven that he's a gamebreaker, and not just on special teams. Just watch highlights of Turpin in college, and you'll see his full capabilities. Sweeps, screens, slants...hec most of his college plays are quick-hitting plays, not long-developing routes downfield.

I'm convinced that if used more on offense, on like even 1/3 of the snaps, especially on an obvious 3rd down passing plays, he would do more to effect the game than Mingo, Brooks and likely Tolbert who can barely separate.

And as for the running game coming back, certainly Turpin can find ways to touch the ball in the running/screen game. He would do more to effect the game than Zeke, unless you simply needed a blocking back.

So, I understand your perspective, but there's no way that Turpin should only be used as a returner. He can do more, and should be doing more, on a team that needs offensive threats.

 

[KingCorcoran]

No I truly said what I said because Jerry Jones believed and we saw it the year before what we were lacking is a tough nose short yardage blocking and goal line type running back and that is what Ezekiel Elliott did well if they use hunter Enrico the year before properly I don't believe Jerry would have felt the need to even think about Ezekiel Elliott...

You need proof I mean do we need to sit here and talk about how you think and I should say you as in this place thinks that Jerry Jones medals he forces players on the field his pet cats how much they play how much they get on the field well then explain to me why Ezekiel has been a ghost the last month he's only making the field to give Rico a breather they all didn't even bring him in for some of the touchdown goal to go situations literally Jerry is never mandated any of the game day rosters and how they doubled out targets and snaps for what I think in this day and age with the way everybody knows everything real time spies all over TMZ somebody would actually came out and verified Jerry medals in game plans and he absolutely doesn't..

EE has all but disappeared and jerry doesn't seem concerned

oh by the way did you guys miss the little blurb by Mike McCarthy might have been yesterday the day before when he was asked by media on his relationship with Jerry and how the rosters built and he said he has far more power here and and making decisions on who's on this roster and who's not then he did in Green Bay isn't that something kind of odd right the meddling GM who forces players and coaches on a head coach and yet it's not true I mean all of it's not true I mean everybody likes to make narratives around here because they don't like Jerry yes Jerry's got a big mouth Jerry likes to report the injuries and he likes to talk but that doesn't make Jerry one of those guys who are actually affecting the culture on game day on the roster.

And lastly and this is important,​

​

we have to go back on some of these head coaches and coordinators and Jerry does trust them he does give them leeway and sometimes we end up with a Taco/HIll/mazi not because of Jerry because he trusted his coaches/scouts, they asked him for a player they probably had a two way tie on the board on draft day and he went with the coaches suggestions some of these players are here that otherwise would not be here had Jerry probably put his foot down and said no and just went for BPA and I sure hope they're doing that this year...​

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So if you missed it Mike McCarthy literally flat out said he has far more decision making and power here than he had in Green Bay and filling out the roster...​

Perhaps, Mike McCarthy, knowing he will soon be in discussions with other NFL ownerships groups, does not want to be regarded as a head coach that would publicly contradict his team’s owner.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I understand your response, and some of it I agree with. But, no, I don't think McCarthy is using all the resources this team has creatively enough.

Turpin can run sprints, screens, slants, corners and more...and would be a real downfield threat, and even a screen threat. You could fake the screen to Turpin and hit someone downfield behind those that cheat up. Turpin can do more to effect the game, I believe more than Tolbert, and more than Mingo and Brooks combined. He's already proven that he's a gamebreaker, and not just on special teams. Just watch highlights of Turpin in college, and you'll see his full capabilities. Sweeps, screens, slants...hec most of his college plays are quick-hitting plays, not long-developing routes downfield.

I'm convinced that if used more on offense, on like even 1/3 of the snaps, especially on an obvious 3rd down passing plays, he would do more to effect the game than Mingo, Brooks and likely Tolbert who can barely separate.

And as for the running game coming back, certainly Turpin can find ways to touch the ball in the running/screen game. He would do more to effect the game than Zeke, unless you simply needed a blocking back.

So, I understand your perspective, but there's no way that Turpin should only be used as a returner. He can do more, and should be doing more, on a team that needs offensive threats.

I agree with you completely that Turpin is a bigger threat than other WRs on the roster not named Lamb and Cooks. But is that because Turpin is a great offensive weapon or is the Cowboys WR room that bad? This is where I give McCarthy some grace, although I fully expect and dont have an issue if the Cowboys move on after the year either.

The thing is though that outside of the Cleveland, 1st Giants, and Philly game Turpin is getting around 1/3rd of the snaps already. Hes averaging 17 offensive snaps per game and those three games are weighing down his average as he averaged just 7 in those three games.

In those snaps he has 6 rushing attempts and 12 catches behind the LOS. They've tried to get him involved with screens and jet sweeps and a couple times he has had some solid yardage.

I think the fallacy with Turpin comes in the impact fans believe he has on opposing defenses. When you watch the tape of his touches teams are not cheating over when he goes in motion, they are not over reacting and over pursuing when he gets the ball in the flats. Hes a dynamic player with the ball in his hands and I wont suggest otherwise for one second. He really is at his best when you can get him on a slant/crosser with the middle of the field open. I'm not seeing him as a great deep threat or even guy to force the ball to in the flat as teams are mostly playing him straight up and he avoids contact much better than he breaks tackles. I'm also not seeing defenders cheating one way when he is on the field to give you that Xs and Os advantage you're talking about. It could be more of a play design issue and the football geek in me would love to have a deep discussion there, but I really get the sense that we are building up Turpin to be something he isnt because we dont have a very good alternative right now.

 

[blueblood70]

I understand your response, and some of it I agree with. But, no, I don't think McCarthy is using all the resources this team has creatively enough.

Turpin can run sprints, screens, slants, corners and more...and would be a real downfield threat, and even a screen threat. You could fake the screen to Turpin and hit someone downfield behind those that cheat up. Turpin can do more to effect the game, I believe more than Tolbert, and more than Mingo and Brooks combined. He's already proven that he's a gamebreaker, and not just on special teams. Just watch highlights of Turpin in college, and you'll see his full capabilities. Sweeps, screens, slants...hec most of his college plays are quick-hitting plays, not long-developing routes downfield.

I'm convinced that if used more on offense, on like even 1/3 of the snaps, especially on an obvious 3rd down passing plays, he would do more to effect the game than Mingo, Brooks and likely Tolbert who can barely separate.

And as for the running game coming back, certainly Turpin can find ways to touch the ball in the running/screen game. He would do more to effect the game than Zeke, unless you simply needed a blocking back.

So, I understand your perspective, but there's no way that Turpin should only be used as a returner. He can do more, and should be doing more, on a team that needs offensive threats.

Yeah there's some people in here some fan base that really believe Mike McCarthy is getting cheated out of having a good roster so he's being hated on they really don't understand that he's created that narrative it's a false narrative they may not have the best players but it was his job to take Rico and make him the starter after the first 3 weeks he saw things weren't working but after that Pittsburgh game Rico showed he can be a starter in this league it's a fact we've watched him play all you had to do is have a head coach and offensive coordinator that realized he needed to shuffle the offensive line a little better and he needed to just give the guy 20 plus carries every game that's the run game that's on Mike McCarthy and you're right Turpin right when you lose cooks and you're looking for a sport and you use this guy only 5 total plays a game you hardly give him any targets especially the things that he does well I don't need to see how many you can throw to him behind the line of scrimmage or out on the edges how about get this guy involved and while lamb is hurt why is he running so many run plays like from behind the line of scrimmage this should be terpenes just for that reason you just paid all that money to lamb and you're using them like a running back how about use Rico like a real running back and how about use Turpin in that role more often the guy doesn't need starter targets but in a last year when you need some juice I mean it happened last year in my opinion Rico should have got carries that they gave to Tony Tony should've still been the same back that was backing up Ezekiel Elliott he'd have been more effective this is all on the play caller the head coach the game planner the offensive coordinator that's just seems to spell out one name...

Mike McCarthy he's not all to blame but he had full control of this he could have made lemonade out of lemons he's not that kind of coaching that alone is why he needs to leave.. When as a head coach you can't even self evaluate to a point where you know that this is a big problem and that you should have gave the play calling to schottenheimer let the game plans just fall to him instead you just kept this going until what it was too late and you lost Prescott and now you try to be more creative this should have been happening since the bye week at minimum...

 

[KMY_Amber]

I think the fallacy with Turpin comes in the impact fans believe he has on opposing defenses. When you watch the tape of his touches teams are not cheating over when he goes in motion, they are not over reacting and over pursuing when he gets the ball in the flats. Hes a dynamic player with the ball in his hands and I wont suggest otherwise for one second. He really is at his best when you can get him on a slant/crosser with the middle of the field open. I'm not seeing him as a great deep threat or even guy to force the ball to in the flat as teams are mostly playing him straight up and he avoids contact much better than he breaks tackles. I'm also not seeing defenders cheating one way when he is on the field to give you that Xs and Os advantage you're talking about. It could be more of a play design issue and the football geek in me would love to have a deep discussion there, but I really get the sense that we are building up Turpin to be something he isnt because we dont have a very good alternative right now.

Thunder, defenses aren't worried about Turpin when he's on the field because the playcalling and play design aren't causing them to take note.

If the Cowboys spread the field and throw a few more slants to Turpin from the slot (and he indeed has enough wiggle to beat a lot of slot CBs right off the LOS, or he'll be held), and he breaks another for a TD, or even threatens too, then I bet defenses will start paying more attention to him when he's on the field.

So Turpin should present some Xs and Os advantages at times when he's on the field, especially when the offense is spread out, but McCarthy hasn't shown he can do that. It's McCarthy's play design and play calling...it's not creative enough. CeeDee will always get loads of attention, so someone like Turpin should be able to thrive in some games with favorable matchups from the slot.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Thunder, defenses aren't worried about Turpin when he's on the field because the playcalling and play design aren't causing them to take note.

If the Cowboys spread the field and throw a few more slants to Turpin from the slot (and he indeed has enough wiggle to beat a lot of slot CBs right off the LOS, or he'll be held), and he breaks another for a TD, or even threatens too, then I bet defenses will start paying more attention to him when he's on the field.

So Turpin should present some Xs and Os advantages at times when he's on the field, especially when the offense is spread out, but McCarthy hasn't shown he can do that. It's McCarthy's play design and play calling...it's not creative enough. CeeDee will always get loads of attention, so someone like Turpin should be able to thrive in some games with favorable matchups from the slot.

If you really think he is that good of a receiver then you have a valid point, but that is where we will differ in opinions. Just in reviewing the last couple of games I'm not seeing a very good receiver, but I am seeing a guy who is getting some yardage off of play design and quickness.

In the NY game he had a nice gain on double motion with a toss pass. He was overthrown on a TD opportunity early on in that game where he didnt run a great route, but got the perfect matchup. I think they're clearly trying to get the ball in his hands but the only way to really do that is with some of these gadget plays. The play I think everyone is getting hung up on is the TD pass he had against Houston. Great play, and it shows what he can be but we also need to keep in mind he got manned up against possibly the worst cover corner to enter the league since he was drafted in Okudah. He got around 25 snaps in that game but got shut down aside from the rest of the way.

When I put his tape on I'm just not seeing a quality receiver. I actually see him as very slow off the ball (as odd as that sounds) and running a lot of bad/lazy routes. I think there could be some use for him as a receiver, but where I'm actually seeing promise for him are on some of these longer developing plays and double moves which the Cowboys just dont have the luxury of with a slower QB and struggling OL.

Giants
Q1
14:27 – Slot, Quick curl route, ball to Schoon, no impact on play
12:01 – Slot, quick curl route, ball to Lamb, no impact on play
11:18 – Slot, Turpin motions across formation, motions back across for touch pass, gain 16 yards
10:40 – Wide left, jet motion at snap, fake of previous play toss pass, Turpin gets checkdown completion, wide open in the flat, gain of 6
9:55 – Slot, Incomplete pass to Turpin, motion by TE mans Turpin up with the safety, slow route off the ball but is open in space, a perfect throw is a TD

Q2

15:00 – Slot, Run play, makes block away from play
14:27 – Wide, double reverse to Turpin, Excellent read by the far side corner that was originally covering Turping to shut down this play
12:23 – Slot, quick out and curl route, ball to Schoon, Turpin looks slow off the ball
11:51 – RB, Wheel route, Incomplete to Lamb, Turpin not open at time of throw

Q3

13:01 – Slot, presnap motion and back, quick screen to Turpin, 30 yard gain, excellent YAC
12:30 – Wide, run play, no block made, no effect on the play
8:49 – Slot, Quick route and pass to the flat, Ball to Turpin, 2 yards
5:52 – Wide, run play, Cooper Rush fumble

Q4

2:00 – Middle receiver in bunch, slot motions across, Turpin fakes a slant into a curl route. I can only assume but with how open the middle of the field is I would bet he has an option route there and made the wrong read.

Commanders

Q1

11:40 – Slot, Turpin runs a double move, CB all over him
8:13 – Slot, run play, decent blocking effort
6:17 – Slot, run play, Turpin is back side out of the play
:45 – Slot, Turpin blocking

Q2

12:34 – Slot, Quick screen to Turpin, not sure what his defender was going. Looks like he bit on a play action that wasn’t even there. Gain of 8
11:55 – Slot, fumbled snap
11:12 – Slot, Quick pass to Lamb, Lazy route by Turpin although he was also away from the play
3:36 – Wide, Go route, DB runs with him the whole way 1v1

Q3

9:08 – Slot, run play, no one for Turpin to block
5:32 – Slot, Manned up on safety, runs a go route, covered whole way
2:30 – Inside slot on bunch right, motions out wide, inside slant, looks slow off the ball again
2:03 – Wide, Runs a 5 yard in, once again is the slowest receiver off the ball, good inside cut though, incomplete to Brooks

Q4

5:21 – Slot, 5 yard In route, slow off the ball, Is in nice position to beat DB if play gets extended. Ball to Schoon TD
1:39 – Slot, run play, Turpin backside blocking but a weaker than you'd like effort even if its away from the play

 

[xwalker]

Albeit the personality conflicts that McCarthy had with Aaron Rogers, McCarthy's offense worked in Green Bay. They had the players to make it work... I'm not saying McCarthy is a bad play caller. I think it's more about our players not being able to execute. This is Jerry's doing. if McCarthy was as bad as some make him out to be, we wouldn't have been 12-5 for 3 back to back seasons.

He gave up play calling at one point in Green Bay then later resumed it.
- I think that was under duress from the GM.

 

[lopey]

His play calling is fine most of the time. I have issues on third down calls. Makes some real boneheaded calls

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I have noticed a trend with McCarthy and his play calling.

If you look at the Giants, it is pretty obvious that they came out wanting to get Turpin more involved in the offense including getting him the ball 3 straight plays which ended in an FG. Then Turpin basically became an afterthought, and McCarthy went back to calling his normal offense making no effort to involve Turpin again for over 2 quarters.

There have been quite a few times when Dallas comes out and the first drive is very effective, and you can tell they have a purpose to get Rico involved or Lamb a few easy catches, but they also use those scripted plays to attack defenses weaknesses, however, he never really uses that information or build on it throughout the game, he just reverts back to calling the same group of plays every week.

There has been quite a bit of talk about Jerry possibly bringing McCarthy back, with the QB and taking a shot at Jerry saying on his terms, but if those terms don't include a new offensive coordinator who calls the plays we are in for a lot of grief as fans.

Seems more like gameplanning and scheme as opposed to play calling.

 

[Doomsday]

Same thing that happened last week again tonight. They come out running the ball and getting Lamb involved, then it is right back to being pass happy and running a ton of stop routes.

Not sure what is worse, the lack of attention to detail or a stubborn coach who can't see 7 yard stop routes vs press coverage is not an offensive scheme.

 

[Gonzomandela01]

Cincy offense looked light years ahead of Dallas, crossing routs, separation, receivers open in the middle of the field, I'm so envious.

 

[Loso86]

I have noticed a trend with McCarthy and his play calling.

If you look at the Giants, it is pretty obvious that they came out wanting to get Turpin more involved in the offense including getting him the ball 3 straight plays which ended in an FG. Then Turpin basically became an afterthought, and McCarthy went back to calling his normal offense making no effort to involve Turpin again for over 2 quarters.

There have been quite a few times when Dallas comes out and the first drive is very effective, and you can tell they have a purpose to get Rico involved or Lamb a few easy catches, but they also use those scripted plays to attack defenses weaknesses, however, he never really uses that information or build on it throughout the game, he just reverts back to calling the same group of plays every week.

There has been quite a bit of talk about Jerry possibly bringing McCarthy back, with the QB and taking a shot at Jerry saying on his terms, but if those terms don't include a new offensive coordinator who calls the plays we are in for a lot of grief as fans.

I noticed sooooo much dang wr curls and out routes over....and over.....and over. Especially the last drive

 

[Doomsday]

I noticed sooooo much dang wr curls and out routes over....and over.....and over. Especially the last drive

On the 2nd down sack at the end of the game, they had 3 of the 4 WRs running stop routes vs a defense that had no one in the middle of the field.

 

[Loso86]

On the 2nd down sack at the end of the game, they had 3 of the 4 WRs running stop routes vs a defense that had no one in the middle of the field.

It's ridiculous man that's why MM should go on top of other things

 

[buddahjoe445]

Fat Mike's offense is so predictable and boring. Defenses sit on routes. DBs can run the routes better than our WRs. Routes rarely pick or cross. There is no attempt to confuse the defense. Thats why when Lamb and Ferg tried a pick route in the red zone they messed it up. They're not used to running those routes. Its not part of Fat Mike's play design. If you look at the routes the WRs are running, its usually a curl, slant, or go.

 

[NDGAEDE]

No worries. Moore is on his way back at year's end.

That'll fix everything.

 

[garyo1954]

Doesn't matter who calls plays. Booger has sole authority to have his four favorite plays in the gameplan. Even if those are the total gameplan.