McCray tendered

jterrell;5018913 said:
Whether we win 19 games next year or 4 Danny McCray won't be anywhere near a top ten list for most overpaid Cowboy.

The salary cap changes a great deal under the new CBA. Dallas must adjust. Teams overall must adjust to paying QBs less money. Teams with veteran "franchise QBs" are invariably tight against the cap.

And ours hasn't even been paid yet

I think this team is doing a terrible job managing their cap.

And allocating $1.3 million to a defensive liability strikes me as more of the same.

My opinion.
 
The point is why tender him if you don't have to? Let him become a free agent and offer him the vet minimum. If another team signs him and pays him $1.3 million, we go out and find a cheaper replacement. Just like he came in here and replaced the irreplaceable Keith Davis, we can find the next Danny McCray.
 
Mr Cowboy;5018924 said:
The point is why tender him if you don't have to? Let him become a free agent and offer him the vet minimum. If another team signs him and pays him $1.3 million, we go out and find a cheaper replacement. Just like he came in here and replaced the irreplaceable Keith Davis, we can find the next Danny McCray.

I agree with you. That's the part that confuses me.

Clearly, I'm missing something.

It could be
1. That the staff is worried they only have 2 Safeties on the roster right now, and as bad as McCray is a Safety, at least he's a body (along with a solid STs player);

2. Maybe they are worried that Chicago may be interested in him as our previous STs coach is now there? (And the Cowboys want to retain McCray)

3. He isn't as bad at Safety as we all think in Kiffen's scheme (if he's primarily playing in the box or something).

I'm just fishing, of course. I don't really know. But at least it's not guaranteed, thankfully.
 
Mr Cowboy;5018924 said:
The point is why tender him if you don't have to? Let him become a free agent and offer him the vet minimum. If another team signs him and pays him $1.3 million, we go out and find a cheaper replacement. Just like he came in here and replaced the irreplaceable Keith Davis, we can find the next Danny McCray.

How do you replace a guy who last played in 2008 when you don't get there until 2010?
 
DanteEXT;5018939 said:
How do you replace a guy who last played in 2008 when you don't get there until 2010?

All these players are replaceable, especially special teams players. When Davis left, no one missed him. Futhermore, I'm not so sure that McCray was the best special teamer on the team last year, and he certainly wasn't a viable solution at safety. I think you can get a better, cheaper player than McCray.You have to have players playing for the minimum at some positions.
 
jterrell;5018901 said:
McCray is by far our best special teams cover player.

He is not a scrub any more than Bill Bates was. Good teams have valuable special teamers. Something we learned under Jimmy Johnson.

1.3M is NOT a lot of money. Not when his base would be over 500k anyway.

Only the truly pathetic talent managers would suggest you not tender quality, reliable players so you can hope and pray to find an undrafted free agent to do the job.

With a 123m cap if you can not pay your best special teams cover guy 1.3m million you have serious problems with both cap mgmt and common sense.

McCray offers nothing on defense and he sure isn't the player that Bates was. McCray is much like Sam Hurd. They are good special teams players that lacks the talent to play on the offense or defense. A good talent manager realizes that these type of platlyers have limited value and are a dime a dozen. This type of player is ususlly a UDFA due to lack of talent and there are several in each draft class Dallas would be wise to find the next one at a cheaper price. It would also be a good move to get a player that can contribute in more ways than just special teams.

I also question your description of reliable. The special teams coverage units were anything but reliable this past season. If hevwas the best, the unit needs an overhaul. Joe D.'s departure was a sign of what the FO thought about the special teams units.
 
No issue with McCray getting the tendered offer. He is a good special teams player and this only ensures he is at camp. Some of you act as if this is some long term big money deal it is not it gets him to camp where he will still have to earn a spot on the team. Some really need to grow up around here. You come in daily looking to complain this is not a big deal
 
Doomsday101;5019282 said:
No issue with McCray getting the tendered offer. He is a good special teams player and this only ensures he is at camp. Some of you act as if this is some long term big money deal it is not it gets him to camp where he will still have to earn a spot on the team. Some really need to grow up around here. You come in daily looking to complain this is not a big deal

Pretty sure the tendered is guaranteed. Isn't it?
 
jnday;5018996 said:
McCray offers nothing on defense and he sure isn't the player that Bates was. McCray is much like Sam Hurd. They are good special teams players that lacks the talent to play on the offense or defense. A good talent manager realizes that these type of platlyers have limited value and are a dime a dozen. This type of player is ususlly a UDFA due to lack of talent and there are several in each draft class Dallas would be wise to find the next one at a cheaper price. It would also be a good move to get a player that can contribute in more ways than just special teams.

I also question your description of reliable. The special teams coverage units were anything but reliable this past season. If hevwas the best, the unit needs an overhaul. Joe D.'s departure was a sign of what the FO thought about the special teams units.

Which is why they want to hold on on to their most reliable special teams player. Getting rid of McCray only makes an underachieving unit worse.
 
Hoofbite;5019293 said:
Pretty sure the tendered is guaranteed. Isn't it?

The tender money is not guaranteed unless/until Week 1 of the regular season.

He still has to make the team. He is a special team player who provides some backup help the contract by NFL standards is not a big contract what so ever. He is one of 80 who will go to camp instead of being rational we get the same old crud of people going to the fricken extreme as if this is some hugh deal. People need to grow up around here it has gotten pretty lame with some of this over reactions to any and every single thing.
 
jnday;5018778 said:
You are right on one point. Several more posters gave up on you getting the point much earlier in the thread and so should I. It has nothing to do with cost and everything to do with keeping a subpar player that can only help on special teams. Kiffin can't change that.

This is obviously way over your head. Fyi, it wasn't a big contract. You're making a big deal over nothing.
 
xwalker;5018449 said:
His salary is not guaranteed!

They can cut him in training camp with no cap hit.

What does it matter?? This signing effectively puts an end to the Cowboys' playoff chances for 2013 before OTA's even begin. Well, according to some anyways. In the words of the great David Byrne: "Stop making sense"
 
erod;5019305 said:
This is obviously way over your head. Fyi, it wasn't a big contract. You're making a big deal over nothing.

Reading seems to be way over your head. I have stated that the money was not an issue in several post, incuding the one you quoted. My point on the move has went over the head of several in this thread. I would explain it again , but you couldn't read and understand the post you quoted, so a new post would be avwaste of my time.
 

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