McGee vs. Orton

[Avenger]

I actually see a lot of potential in McGee. Call me silly.... It's been done before. But the guy has a big canon. A confident ego. And he's very mobile.

McGee, as some say, is a run-of-the-mill quarterback. McGee may not be seasoned, but that's not how you judge a quarterback.

With that said, I know the hype surrounding Orton. But his record with the Broncos was pretty shoddy. Here's to hoping it was them and not him, but I do think McGee is legit.

Thoughts?

Young QBs have to play in order to develop and McGee hasn't done near enough of that.
I think if he would have gone to a team that just threw him to the wolves right away... he would be a good starter for them now.
All that being said... it didn't happen like that, so I doubt he'll ever get a shot at the brass ring.

Circumstances.

 

[AbeBeta]

Young QBs have to play in order to develop and McGee hasn't done near enough of that.
I think if he would have gone to a team that just threw him to the wolves right away... he would be a good starter for them now.
All that being said... it didn't happen like that, so I doubt he'll ever get a shot at the brass ring.

Circumstances.

Actually, if you ask most coaches, they would say that young QBs need to sit and learn to develop

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Actually, if you ask most coaches, they would say that young QBs need to sit and learn to develop

There really isn't just one way to do it. It can depend on circumstances and the player, too, like he said.

But in football, you are expected to learn pretty fast, whereas baseball has minor leagues where players play their way up. In the NFL, there isn't much room for forgiveness, which is why I think what you said is true also.

 

[AbeBeta]

There really isn't just one way to do it. It can depend on circumstances and the player, too, like he said.

But in football, you are expected to learn pretty fast, whereas baseball has minor leagues where players play their way up. In the NFL, there isn't much room for forgiveness, which is why I think what you said is true also.

McGee has received a ton of PT in preseason games. Where has that gotten us? Had he looked good then, we'd have teams knocking on our door to acquire him.

He's thrown like 200 passes in the pre-season. For many back ups that's enough to show something. Romo did that and we knew we had something (and other teams did as well).

 

[Nation]

I'd cut McGee and try to develop a 3rd QB on the practice squad. He doesn't bring enough to the table to warrant a roster spot and I think we have a comfortable enough quarterback situation to use the roster spot elsewhere.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

McGee has received a ton of PT in preseason games. Where has that gotten us? Had he looked good then, we'd have teams knocking on our door to acquire him.

He's thrown like 200 passes in the pre-season. For many back ups that's enough to show something. Romo did that and we knew we had something (and other teams did as well).

 

[AbeBeta]

You are throwing a Hail Mary with that facepalm. Are you so desperate to make people think that you are right that you have to resort to that sort of crap instead of actually trying to make an argument?

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

You are throwing a Hail Mary with that facepalm. Are you so desperate to make people think that you are right that you have to resort to that sort of crap instead of actually trying to make an argument?

No, I just don't think 200 passes in a preseason game is a large enough sample size to base anything off of really, especially since the guy ran the option in college.

 

[Lonestar94]

You are throwing a Hail Mary with that facepalm. Are you so desperate to make people think that you are right that you have to resort to that sort of crap instead of actually trying to make an argument?

If McCoy facepalmed you you obviously said something wrong. That's just the way it is. Adjust your statement.

 

[Avenger]

Actually, if you ask most coaches, they would say that young QBs need to sit and learn to develop

What coaches would that be?

 

[Avenger]

No, I just don't think 200 passes in a preseason game is a large enough sample size to base anything off of really, especially since the guy ran the option in college.

Absolutely correct.

 

[tm1119]

McGee wasn't a good QB in college, has looked bad in the NFL, and his limited potential. He doesn't belong in the conversantion with Orton. I think the fact that Jerry felt the need to spend $ and upgrade the backup QB position speaks volumes of what is thought of McGee. Honestly wouldn't mind seeing an UDFA beat out McGee.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

McGee wasn't a good QB in college, has looked bad in the NFL, and his limited potential. He doesn't belong in the conversantion with Orton. I think the fact that Jerry felt the need to spend $ and upgrade the backup QB position speaks volumes of what is thought of McGee. Honestly wouldn't mind seeing an UDFA beat out McGee.

I think you're missing the point. He was an OPTION quarterback in college. And he really hasn't played long enough to gauge his potential ability because his NFL time has been so limited and he really ran an dumbed down offense in college, which is no fault of his own.

 

[Aggie87]

Also, quite a bit of his pre-season playing time has been spent with backup linemen and receivers who were never good enough to make the team. Not exactly a good way to evaluate his potential, when he's not able to play and develop alongside decent players.

His play in the regular season with starters actually gives me a better feel for his potential than the preseason games. He had a 102.8 rating against the Cardinals (and spotted them the lead at the end, only for the defense to give up a FG and lose it for the Boys), and then beat the Eagles.

 

[AbeBeta]

No, I just don't think 200 passes in a preseason game is a large enough sample size to base anything off of really, especially since the guy ran the option in college.

yet that # of passes is enough for most teams to get on a guy like Matt Flynn's jock

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

yet that # of passes is enough for most teams to get on a guy like Matt Flynn's jock

..because every player is the same, right?

 

[theogt]

One guy can be considered a top backup in the league, the other guy won't be on an NFL roster next year.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I actually see a lot of potential in McGee. Call me silly.... It's been done before. But the guy has a big canon. A confident ego. And he's very mobile.

McGee, as some say, is a run-of-the-mill quarterback. McGee may not be seasoned, but that's not how you judge a quarterback.

With that said, I know the hype surrounding Orton. But his record with the Broncos was pretty shoddy. Here's to hoping it was them and not him, but I do think McGee is legit.

Thoughts?

With seasoning, and if he doesn't get burned in the flats, he could be our next Danny White, just like Romo.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

While McGee has made progress from year to year. Up until last year I didn't know he throws the football downfield every now and then. He does not make a lot of mistakes. Very few ints or fumbles. That being said he also doesn't make enough plays.

It would not be the most surprising thing if he continued to progress but I am not betting the house on it.

Orton is a proven 80ish rating QB in this league. That's phenomenal for a backup.

 

[AbeBeta]

..because every player is the same, right?

Gee, every player isn't the same. That's sterling logic. Players are different. So we shouldn't discount McGee being crappy so far.

You could apply that logic to every single player evaluation.