McGee.. Why?

[yimyammer]

I wanna know what sorta pics of Jerry Mcgee has...

who is Jerry Mcgee?

 

[igtmfo]

... In case you don't remember, McGee played poorly and we got whipped by the Eagles so he didn't really help us out. Then the next week Romo had to play with a badly swollen hand and you could see the offense wasn't running all that well compared to a few weeks earlier. I don't know how much of that was Romo's hand but we couldn't put McGee in because he gave us virtually no chance to win. ...

Just go back and remember the end of the 2010 season. McGee started the finale against the Eagles when they played a ton of backups and we played all of our starters. We barely beat them on a last minute TD in that game. ...

Nicely put. Don't want to pile on McGee, but well said.

Jason said in his news conf. this week that he would much rather have a 3rd QB on the roster than a guy who only gets on the field for eight plays a game. In his response, Jason was pretty jacked that anyone should consider otherwise. QBs are too important I think he said. Then he went on to praise McGee's attributes: good runner, keeps plays alive etc.

Definitely Jason wants a 3rd QB on the 53. But does that mean: 1) It has to be McGee? 2) Does that mean the 3rd QB is always the 46th man active on game day?

Last season you had to go with Frank Walker, Sammy Morris, Dockery and other guys who were sitting on couches midseason. It might have been better if we had scouted at cutdown for just the single best talent on the street regardless of position that we could wangle on waivers - and keep him on the 53 rather than a 3rd QB - even if that player never sees the field until injuries warrant.

 

[TheSport78]

Redball looks at McGee, like looking into a mirror.

This.

Garrett sees himself in McGee. It's totally unacceptable.

 

[InmanRoshi]

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Just go back and remember the end of the 2010 season. McGee started the finale against the Eagles when they played a ton of backups and we played all of our starters. We barely beat them on a last minute TD in that game.

If it came down to it in a must-win game, McGee doesn't give us a reasonable shot to win anyway.

You're selectively leaving out McGee also had to come into the Cardinals game when Kitna got hurt. 11 for 17, 100 yards, 10.1 ypa, 1 TD, 0 and what should have been a game winning drive with under 2 minutes left if we had any semblance of a pass defense that year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMz6V9nFKb8

No, he's not going to be "good" if asked to play extended time. But nor is any other 3rd string QB candidate. There aren't 20 good QBs to go around in the NFL, much less 90. If you're going to carry a 3rd QB, McGee is as good as any. McGee seemingly knows the offense, takes care of the football (0 INTs in 80+ regular season attempts), and has enough athletic ability and instincts to make a few big plays here and there.

If you have an alternative, provide a name and we'll put him under the same selective microscope you've used for McGee where we focus a bad performance and ignore good ones and see how he looks.

 

[fifaguy]

All this rage over a third QB. Only at the zone.

You missed the point

 

[Aven8]

This.

Garrett sees himself in McGee. It's totally unacceptable.

At least Red was decent. Hey I wouldn't mind a 3rd QB if he had a chance to be good. Romo was a 3rd once, but he had promise. McGee is a progress stopper for the entire team.

 

[Rockytop6]

Honestly its embarassing and a waste of a precious roster spot. Him making the team (so far) is the biggest RUE in my opinion. Moreso than any of the cuts.

Makes me sick at my stomach!

 

[Rockytop6]

You're selectively leaving out McGee also had to come into the Cardinals game when Kitna got hurt. 11 for 17, 100 yards, 10.1 ypa, 1 TD, 0 and what should have been a game winning drive with under 2 minutes left if we had any semblance of a pass defense that year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMz6V9nFKb8

No, he's not going to be "good" if asked to play extended time. But nor is any other 3rd string QB candidate. There aren't 20 good QBs to go around in the NFL, much less 90. If you're going to carry a 3rd QB, McGee is as good as any. McGee seemingly knows the offense, takes care of the football (0 INTs in 80+ regular season attempts), and has enough athletic ability and instincts to make a few big plays here and there.

If you have an alternative, provide a name and we'll put him under the same selective microscope you've used for McGee where we focus a bad performance and ignore good ones and see how he looks.

I would prefer a developmental guy (Romo) who can really help the team in 2 or 3 years.

 

[erod]

I'm fine with a third string QB. Just not this one.

 

[Cowboy_Shawn]

McGee still being on the roster is baffling. Surely they don't think he has trade value.

There are several QBs currently available that are better than or comparable to McGee.

 

[Kilyin]

You're selectively leaving out McGee also had to come into the Cardinals game when Kitna got hurt. 11 for 17, 100 yards, 10.1 ypa, 1 TD, 0 and what should have been a game winning drive with under 2 minutes left if we had any semblance of a pass defense that year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMz6V9nFKb8

No, he's not going to be "good" if asked to play extended time. But nor is any other 3rd string QB candidate. There aren't 20 good QBs to go around in the NFL, much less 90. If you're going to carry a 3rd QB, McGee is as good as any. McGee seemingly knows the offense, takes care of the football (0 INTs in 80+ regular season attempts), and has enough athletic ability and instincts to make a few big plays here and there.

If you have an alternative, provide a name and we'll put him under the same selective microscope you've used for McGee where we focus a bad performance and ignore good ones and see how he looks.

Garrett seems like he's going with a hard and fast rule that he's going with 3 QBs at all times. I don't like keeping 3 QBs period when you have a backup as solid as Orton, but if you are going to go that route McGee is fine. First of all he's mobile, so he's a guy who can run the naked boots and roll outs on the scout team for the defense to prepare for RG3 and Vick. Second of all, he's been in the offense years so he doesn't need a lot of hand holding or reps. Finally, he proved in his 2010 start against the Cardinals he can at least makes some plays and give the team at least a chance to win if he absolutely has to play. No 3rd string QB is going to be "good", he's just got to not be Mike Quinn, Babe Laufenberg or Caleb Hanie bad where the offense struggles to get 100 total yards for the game. .

Both good points. I guess the only thing I can question is why we'd roll with 3 QBs at all. Wish they hadn't changed that rule about the 3rd QB.

And for those that may not know:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...arterback-rule-46-active-players-on-game-day/

 

[erod]

McGee still being on the roster is baffling. Surely they don't think he has trade value.

There are several QBs currently available that are better than or comparable to McGee.

It's not over yet. Lot of decisions being made this morning.

 

[Eskimo]

You're selectively leaving out McGee also had to come into the Cardinals game when Kitna got hurt. 11 for 17, 100 yards, 10.1 ypa, 1 TD, 0 and what should have been a game winning drive with under 2 minutes left if we had any semblance of a pass defense that year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMz6V9nFKb8

No, he's not going to be "good" if asked to play extended time. But nor is any other 3rd string QB candidate. There aren't 20 good QBs to go around in the NFL, much less 90. If you're going to carry a 3rd QB, McGee is as good as any. McGee seemingly knows the offense, takes care of the football (0 INTs in 80+ regular season attempts), and has enough athletic ability and instincts to make a few big plays here and there.

If you have an alternative, provide a name and we'll put him under the same selective microscope you've used for McGee where we focus a bad performance and ignore good ones and see how he looks.

In that game against Arizona those numbers are inflated because about 50 of those yards came on one throw which was almost intercepted. He just can't push the ball downfield. All he does is dump the ball off or run with it. He has poor pocket presence and gets jittery for no reason at all when he has a clean pocket. DCs will kill him with blitzes if he gets in live action.

Here is where I counter that we have invested very heavily in the backup QB. He is an established vet who has had many, many starts. He can easily start elsewhere in the league. He has also been pretty durable and is in the middle of the peak of his career.

Now our 3rd QB here is no longer a developmental QB - he is in his fourth year and has not shown much progression since his second year based on his preseason play. He is a scrub who doesn't give us much of a chance to win a game against very weak teams. I really think he gives us the same chance as a vet we pull off of the street or a true developmental guy who we stash on our practice squad.

I really think that 53rd spot should have gone to Orie Lemon. Danny Coale should have beaten out Holmes for the 6th WR spot and Holmes should have gone on the PS to continue to work on his game which is not NFL ready.

 

[Barrister]

I too find it ridiculous that there are posters who will fault Jerry for making a personnel move they don't agree with and also fault him for letting Garrett make a personnel move they don't agree with. So what it basically comes down to is, you will call both the coach and the GM bad at what they do because they see the roster differently than you do. This despite the fact that they see a lot more of the players through games, scrimmages, practices, etc. than you ever will.

Now, this doesnt mean that everything they do is going to be correct. But to blast them for being bad at what they do b/c they don't agree w/ your assessment of our players is downright foolish.

 

[fifaguy]

I am so happy right now!

Let me enjoy this, before we re-sign him and cut the TE we just signed in 2 weeks (once Witten is fully healthy).