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PHILADELPHIA -- Tie? What tie?
Thanks to Donovan McNabb, players around the league now must know there doesn't have to be a winner or loser in every regular-season game. Yes, there are ties in the NFL. They just don't happen too often.
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Watch highlights from the Philadelphia Eagles 13-13 overtime tie with the Cincinnati Bengals, the first tie since 2002.
A day after the Philadelphia Eagles and Cincinnati Bengals played to a 13-13 tie -- the league's first since 2002 -- the focus wasn't on how poorly the teams performed on the field. Instead, everyone wanted to know how it's possible some professional football players, especially a 10-year veteran such as McNabb, don't know simple rules about overtimes games.
"I'm sure there are plenty of rules that guys don't understand, but I don't think that has any factor whatsoever to do with the outcome of this game and how they played in the overtime," Eagles coach Andy Reid said Monday. "I think that's absurd. You play to win in that time, whether you think you have another overtime period or you don't. And you play your heart out to win it in that time, and that's how we approached it and that's how the players approached it."
Reid ignored the point. Whether the players' ignorance about the overtime rule affected the outcome is debatable. It's inconceivable and embarrassing that some of them didn't know a game can end in a tie.
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"I'll take the responsibility for that," Reid said.
Reid deserves plenty of blame for the Eagles' struggles this season and their inability to beat the lowly Bengals (1-8-1), but coaches shouldn't have to walk up and down the sideline telling players that overtime is do-or-die.
The Eagles (5-4-1) now have played 12 OT games, including one in the playoffs, since McNabb joined the team in 1999. Yet, the five-time Pro Bowl quarterback didn't know ties were possible until his desperation pass fell incomplete at the end of the fifth quarter.
"I've never been a part of a tie. I never even knew that was in the rule book," McNabb said after the game. "It's part of the rules, and we have to go with it. I was looking forward to getting the opportunity to get out there and try to drive to win the game. But unfortunately, with the rules, we settled with a tie."
Fit To Be Tied
Here's a list of overtime ties in the NFL since 1974:
SeasonGame2008Philadelphia 13, Cincinnati 132002Atlanta 34, Pittsburgh 34 1997N.Y. Giants 7, Washington 71997Philadelphia 10, Baltimore 101989Kansas City 10, Cleveland 101988Kansas City 17, N.Y. Jets 171987Denver 17, Green Bay 17 1986San Francisco 10, Atlanta 101986St. Louis 10, Philadelphia 10 1984Philadelphia 23, Detroit 23 1983N.Y. Giants 20, St. Louis 20 1982Green Bay 20, Baltimore 201981N.Y. Jets 28, Miami 28 1980Green Bay 14, Tampa Bay 14 1978Minnesota 10, Green Bay 101976Los Angeles 10, Minnesota 10 1974Pittsburgh 35, Denver 35
The overtime rule isn't an obscure one. It was adopted fully by the NFL in 1974 and 17 games have since ended tied. The Eagles have been involved in four of those games.
"I guess we're aware of it now," McNabb said. "In college, there are multiple overtimes, and in high school and Pop Warner. I never knew in the professional ranks it would end that way. I hate to see what would happen in the Super Bowl and in the playoffs."
Uh, they keep playing if it's tied in the playoffs or Super Bowl. But McNabb apparently didn't know that, either.
In his defense, McNabb wasn't the only one oblivious to the rules. Several of his teammates were just as clueless.
"Me and Greg Lewis were discussing it on the sideline, so we asked one of our trainers and he told us it ends in a tie," running back Correll Buckhalter said.
"I found out while we were in OT," rookie wideout DeSean Jackson said.
"I thought we kept playing," linebacker Omar Gaither said.
McNabb was unavailable to reporters on Monday. A spokesman for the QB said McNabb told him he wished he knew the rule and wasn't going to make any excuses for not knowing it.
McNabb's comments took some of the heat off a miserable performance. He tied a career high with three interceptions, lost a fumble and completed fewer than half his passes (28-for-58).
Still, the Eagles remain in the NFC's playoff picture, though they hardly look like a team worthy of playing in January. Philadelphia is a half-game behind Washington, Dallas and Atlanta for the final wild-card spot with games against the Commanders and Cowboys the last two weeks.
The schedule doesn't help. Five of the last six opponents have winning records, with a trip to Baltimore (6-4) up next.
"We're going to get it straight is what we are going to do," Reid said. "We're going to work a little harder, up the concentration level, and make sure we do the right thing. I've seen our offense play well, I've seen our defense play well, and I've seen our special teams play well, and I just want to see them do it all together in one game. And when we do, we've got one heck of a football team."
Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press
How can you be an NFL player and not know that.. I'm 24 and I've known about that rule since I was a 10. It also amazes me how it wasn't only McNabb who was confused about the tie... And another thing.."What if it happen in the playoffs or superbowl?" Come on Donovan your not that dumb are you? pathetic..
Thanks to Donovan McNabb, players around the league now must know there doesn't have to be a winner or loser in every regular-season game. Yes, there are ties in the NFL. They just don't happen too often.
NFL.com VideoWatch highlights from the Philadelphia Eagles 13-13 overtime tie with the Cincinnati Bengals, the first tie since 2002.
A day after the Philadelphia Eagles and Cincinnati Bengals played to a 13-13 tie -- the league's first since 2002 -- the focus wasn't on how poorly the teams performed on the field. Instead, everyone wanted to know how it's possible some professional football players, especially a 10-year veteran such as McNabb, don't know simple rules about overtimes games.
"I'm sure there are plenty of rules that guys don't understand, but I don't think that has any factor whatsoever to do with the outcome of this game and how they played in the overtime," Eagles coach Andy Reid said Monday. "I think that's absurd. You play to win in that time, whether you think you have another overtime period or you don't. And you play your heart out to win it in that time, and that's how we approached it and that's how the players approached it."
Reid ignored the point. Whether the players' ignorance about the overtime rule affected the outcome is debatable. It's inconceivable and embarrassing that some of them didn't know a game can end in a tie.
NFC East blog
ESPN.com's Matt Mosley writes about all things NFC East in his division blog. • Blog network: NFL Nation
"I'll take the responsibility for that," Reid said.
Reid deserves plenty of blame for the Eagles' struggles this season and their inability to beat the lowly Bengals (1-8-1), but coaches shouldn't have to walk up and down the sideline telling players that overtime is do-or-die.
The Eagles (5-4-1) now have played 12 OT games, including one in the playoffs, since McNabb joined the team in 1999. Yet, the five-time Pro Bowl quarterback didn't know ties were possible until his desperation pass fell incomplete at the end of the fifth quarter.
"I've never been a part of a tie. I never even knew that was in the rule book," McNabb said after the game. "It's part of the rules, and we have to go with it. I was looking forward to getting the opportunity to get out there and try to drive to win the game. But unfortunately, with the rules, we settled with a tie."
Fit To Be Tied
Here's a list of overtime ties in the NFL since 1974:
SeasonGame2008Philadelphia 13, Cincinnati 132002Atlanta 34, Pittsburgh 34 1997N.Y. Giants 7, Washington 71997Philadelphia 10, Baltimore 101989Kansas City 10, Cleveland 101988Kansas City 17, N.Y. Jets 171987Denver 17, Green Bay 17 1986San Francisco 10, Atlanta 101986St. Louis 10, Philadelphia 10 1984Philadelphia 23, Detroit 23 1983N.Y. Giants 20, St. Louis 20 1982Green Bay 20, Baltimore 201981N.Y. Jets 28, Miami 28 1980Green Bay 14, Tampa Bay 14 1978Minnesota 10, Green Bay 101976Los Angeles 10, Minnesota 10 1974Pittsburgh 35, Denver 35
The overtime rule isn't an obscure one. It was adopted fully by the NFL in 1974 and 17 games have since ended tied. The Eagles have been involved in four of those games.
"I guess we're aware of it now," McNabb said. "In college, there are multiple overtimes, and in high school and Pop Warner. I never knew in the professional ranks it would end that way. I hate to see what would happen in the Super Bowl and in the playoffs."
Uh, they keep playing if it's tied in the playoffs or Super Bowl. But McNabb apparently didn't know that, either.
In his defense, McNabb wasn't the only one oblivious to the rules. Several of his teammates were just as clueless.
"Me and Greg Lewis were discussing it on the sideline, so we asked one of our trainers and he told us it ends in a tie," running back Correll Buckhalter said.
"I found out while we were in OT," rookie wideout DeSean Jackson said.
"I thought we kept playing," linebacker Omar Gaither said.
McNabb was unavailable to reporters on Monday. A spokesman for the QB said McNabb told him he wished he knew the rule and wasn't going to make any excuses for not knowing it.
McNabb's comments took some of the heat off a miserable performance. He tied a career high with three interceptions, lost a fumble and completed fewer than half his passes (28-for-58).
Still, the Eagles remain in the NFC's playoff picture, though they hardly look like a team worthy of playing in January. Philadelphia is a half-game behind Washington, Dallas and Atlanta for the final wild-card spot with games against the Commanders and Cowboys the last two weeks.
The schedule doesn't help. Five of the last six opponents have winning records, with a trip to Baltimore (6-4) up next.
"We're going to get it straight is what we are going to do," Reid said. "We're going to work a little harder, up the concentration level, and make sure we do the right thing. I've seen our offense play well, I've seen our defense play well, and I've seen our special teams play well, and I just want to see them do it all together in one game. And when we do, we've got one heck of a football team."
Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press
How can you be an NFL player and not know that.. I'm 24 and I've known about that rule since I was a 10. It also amazes me how it wasn't only McNabb who was confused about the tie... And another thing.."What if it happen in the playoffs or superbowl?" Come on Donovan your not that dumb are you? pathetic..
