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Bob Sacamano;1592716 said:
Perhaps, but I was always somewhat partial to Mike Rucker. He did lead the league in sacks at one point.
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Perhaps, but I was always somewhat partial to Mike Rucker. He did lead the league in sacks at one point.
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I will be more impressed if McNabb can keep up the strength in his knee for more than 1 quarter of play.
Add some pressure forcing him to scramble a bit will also play huge part on his reconstructed knee (peppers didnt even play for Carolina tonight).
The Pre Season means very little next to nothing... McNabb will have time to prove himself and that begins in September, until then, who knows how sharp and healthy McNabb will actually be.
Add some pressure forcing him to scramble a bit will also play huge part on his reconstructed knee (peppers didnt even play for Carolina tonight).
The Pre Season means very little next to nothing... McNabb will have time to prove himself and that begins in September, until then, who knows how sharp and healthy McNabb will actually be.
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I don't know what surprises me more. That people might be shocked that the eagles and their QB are still talented.
Or that Carolina and their QB isn't.
Or that Carolina and their QB isn't.
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When Did He leave?
He's a good qb but aint nobody scared...bring it on Eagles.
He's a good qb but aint nobody scared...bring it on Eagles.
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Why is it when we win in preseason it is meaningless but when the Eagles win, it means they are awesome.
When we lose in preseason, it means we suck bag, but when they lose, it is irrelevant?
When we lose in preseason, it means we suck bag, but when they lose, it is irrelevant?
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That was...:money:CanadianCowboysFan;1592916 said:
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Daudr;1592920 said:
Horrible. In fact the big Texan the Eagles drafted look better than any quarterback on Carolina's roster.
Preseason games are just that. It's stupid to anoint the Eagles the next Super Bowl champion off one preseason game. It's equally as foolish thinking they're finished after their first preseason game.
Julius Peppers didn't play for Carolina. Jevon Kearse, Brian Dawkins, Shawn Andrews, LJ Smith didn't play for the Eagles.
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rojan;1592664 said:
I watched quite a bit of that game and I have this to say: Don't underestimate the Eagles.
Their running game is still anemic but their passing game is very good and utilizes every possible receiver to good effect. Considering how poorly we were at covering RBs & TEs last year I hope Wade has an answer for it when we play teams like Philadelphia.
Their O-Line gave McNabb lots of time to throw even with Shawn Andrews out.
Their defense was also clicking and that was without a number of their big name starters like Dawkins and Kearse. Even without them they were able to put consistent pressure on DelHomme as well as cover Steve Smith like a blanket.
As for the Panthers, they looked great last week but completely overmatched this week. I realize that it is pre-season and teams aren't game-planning and guys are not playing the full game or giving 100% effort because they don't want to get hurt but they looked pretty pathetic last night.
Carolina kept their starters in for the entire first half but were unable to get anything going against the Eagles' 2nd string. DelHomme seemed to be locked onto Steve Smith every time he went back to pass but the Eagles had him covered very well and he only caught 2 passes.
Their running game looked pretty good but they didn't run often enough to really get into a rhythm with only 8 attempts while passing 18 times.
The lack of a running game will hurt the Eagles when we play them and I don't think McNabb will have all day to sit back and wait for his receivers to get open against us (like he has in the past). He is not quite the threat to run like he used to be but that is still a concern when you blitz him.
Their defense is vulnerable to the run as well so if Garrett/Romo can be patient we can move the ball against them. Keeping mistakes down and staying unpredictable can beat their defense. When you get careless, they are effective at capitalizing on mistakes and can force you into playing catch-up, making you one-dimensional. That's what they did to the Panthers last night.
I am looking forward to our matchups with them this season and expect a fight between us for the division crown again.
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I certainly hope you are right. I'd love to see Roy to pick 6 on McFlub again.THUMPER;1592947 said:
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lspain1;1592794 said:
Agreed, but Dallas bought a huge road paver named Bigg and this will make for a smoother ride!
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I didn't see the game. His numbers were very impressive though. He could very well make them a Super Bowl contender again. Like many, I'd love to have us knock them off while they're on top.
A point to ponder though.
They were embarrassed the other night vs the Ravens. Reid and Co had a little more motivation for this game. He pretty much vowed they would look better.
I'm not saying he gameplanned....or played this game like a SB. But when teams are routed like the Eagles were the other night in PS, then coaches will squeeze a little more out of their team to get the bitter taste from their mouths.
A point to ponder though.
They were embarrassed the other night vs the Ravens. Reid and Co had a little more motivation for this game. He pretty much vowed they would look better.
I'm not saying he gameplanned....or played this game like a SB. But when teams are routed like the Eagles were the other night in PS, then coaches will squeeze a little more out of their team to get the bitter taste from their mouths.
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President of McNabb Haters Club here. He did look quite good. It's still just pre-season, but I'd say he looked better than he did last year. He was mobile, his throws were right on target (which is unusual, by the way) and he hit receivers in stride.
Fantasy alert! Kevin Curtis appears to be the #1 wide out in Philly. He looks like a reliable, consistent target (Reggie Brown gets no separation, looks like another bust).
Anyway, Carolina didn't blitz, this is just pre-season, and McNabb did have two huge packs of ice on both his knees after halftime. Also, I would say Romo looked just as good last week.
Fantasy alert! Kevin Curtis appears to be the #1 wide out in Philly. He looks like a reliable, consistent target (Reggie Brown gets no separation, looks like another bust).
Anyway, Carolina didn't blitz, this is just pre-season, and McNabb did have two huge packs of ice on both his knees after halftime. Also, I would say Romo looked just as good last week.
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McNabb, Sheppard ignite Eagles' win
By Bob Brookover
Inquirer Staff Writer
Donovan McNabb, Lito Sheppard and the Eagles all returned last night at Lincoln Financial Field.
After all three were absent during Monday night's lopsided loss in Baltimore, McNabb and Sheppard came back from injuries and triggered the Eagles' 27-10 rout of the Carolina Panthers.
The win evened the Eagles' exhibition record at 1-1 and should have eased any concerns that lingered from the game in Baltimore. More important, the evening's events should alleviate all concern about McNabb's readiness for the season. McNabb missed the final six games of last season with a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee.
"It was good to see Donovan get back in there," coach Andy Reid said. "I thought he played very well. It looked like he was confident. It didn't look like his knee was bothering him, and he looked just like he did in practice. I liked the way he threw the ball."
McNabb, wearing a protective brace on his surgically repaired knee, could not have been any more precise than he was during his 15 minutes of work against the Panthers. He completed 6 of 9 passes for 138 yards while leading the team to a field goal and touchdown on four possessions.
"I think we did some good things," McNabb said. "I think we have a long way to go, but it's still exciting to see what we're able to do. I didn't even think about [the knee]. I know it's stronger, and I just want to make this football team go."
After receiving a warm ovation from the crowd when he took the field following the opening kickoff, McNabb needed just one play to ignite an even louder crowd reaction. With Kevin Curtis a step behind cornerback Ken Lucas along the left sideline, McNabb hit his newest receiver in stride for a 27-yard gain.
On the next play, McNabb answered the mobility question by overcoming a slip before rolling to his right and finding Jason Avant for a 16-yard gain to the Carolina 33-yard line.
A false-start penalty on center Jamaal Jackson and a running play that resulted in a 2-yard loss eventually forced the Eagles to attempt a 52-yard field goal, which David Akers converted for a 3-0 lead.
McNabb was even better the next time he stepped onto the field, finding his two tight ends for a couple of huge completions during a five-play, 87-yard touchdown drive. After Brian Westbrook covered 8 yards with a pair of runs, McNabb hit rookie Brent Celek over the middle for 18 yards and a first down.
The quarterback then made a remarkable pass to veteran tight end Matt Schobel, who got behind cornerback Chris Gamble and safety Chris Harris for a 58-yard gain to the 3. Rookie running back Tony Hunt scored on the next play.
McNabb completed just one more pass for a 13-yard gain to Curtis on the Eagles' next two series, and his night ended after he was thrown for a 9-yard loss on a sack by Carolina's Stanley McClover and Thomas Davis that knocked his helmet off.
When McNabb stood and trotted off, he received yet another ovation.
"For the first unit, I think we were able to click on all cylinders, which is a positive," McNabb said. "We were able to make some plays, get the guys involved, starting with Kevin. We hit Matt Schobel on the deep one. We got Westbrook involved."
Things worked out just as well for the Eagles' first-team defense. After giving up a 93-yard touchdown drive to the Ravens to open the preseason, the starting defense pitched a shutout and, thanks to Sheppard, even provided a touchdown.
The Panthers went three-and-out on their first two drives, then defensive end Juqua Thomas forced a fumble with a sack of quarterback Jake Delhomme late in the first quarter. Defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley ended up with the ball at the Carolina 41.
For Sheppard, it was his first game since he dislocated his elbow during the playoff win against the New York Giants in January. Sheppard missed the first preseason game because of a strained oblique muscle.
"It feels good to get back out there with the guys," he said. "I told the guys at the beginning, 'Last week is last week. Just go out and do our thing. Relax, have fun. We're in front of our home crowd, so let's put on a show.' "
Sheppard's contribution to the show came early in the second quarter. The blitzing duo of Quintin Mikell and Chris Gocong put pressure on Delhomme as he released a throw intended for Steve Smith. Sheppard stepped in front of the Panthers' star receiver for an interception and returned the ball 40 yards for a touchdown. Sheppard covered the final yard by dragging Smith across the goal line with him.
"I was an offensive player at one point, so I guess every time I get the ball, I play offense," said Sheppard, who has three career interception returns for touchdowns. "That's my time to show my running skills, so every time I get it, I just try to score with it."
Sheppard said the defense talked about what happened in Baltimore.
"It was basically [a lack of] effort," he said. "We addressed that situation after we watched the film, and guys just wanted to come out here and show what we were really about. That was the first preseason game, and it is what it is, but that's not characteristic of us to put on that type of showing. So this week, we definitely wanted to come out and show what type of football we're capable of playing."
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20070818_McNabb__Sheppard_ignite_Eagles_win.html
By Bob Brookover
Inquirer Staff Writer
Donovan McNabb, Lito Sheppard and the Eagles all returned last night at Lincoln Financial Field.
After all three were absent during Monday night's lopsided loss in Baltimore, McNabb and Sheppard came back from injuries and triggered the Eagles' 27-10 rout of the Carolina Panthers.
The win evened the Eagles' exhibition record at 1-1 and should have eased any concerns that lingered from the game in Baltimore. More important, the evening's events should alleviate all concern about McNabb's readiness for the season. McNabb missed the final six games of last season with a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee.
"It was good to see Donovan get back in there," coach Andy Reid said. "I thought he played very well. It looked like he was confident. It didn't look like his knee was bothering him, and he looked just like he did in practice. I liked the way he threw the ball."
McNabb, wearing a protective brace on his surgically repaired knee, could not have been any more precise than he was during his 15 minutes of work against the Panthers. He completed 6 of 9 passes for 138 yards while leading the team to a field goal and touchdown on four possessions.
"I think we did some good things," McNabb said. "I think we have a long way to go, but it's still exciting to see what we're able to do. I didn't even think about [the knee]. I know it's stronger, and I just want to make this football team go."
After receiving a warm ovation from the crowd when he took the field following the opening kickoff, McNabb needed just one play to ignite an even louder crowd reaction. With Kevin Curtis a step behind cornerback Ken Lucas along the left sideline, McNabb hit his newest receiver in stride for a 27-yard gain.
On the next play, McNabb answered the mobility question by overcoming a slip before rolling to his right and finding Jason Avant for a 16-yard gain to the Carolina 33-yard line.
A false-start penalty on center Jamaal Jackson and a running play that resulted in a 2-yard loss eventually forced the Eagles to attempt a 52-yard field goal, which David Akers converted for a 3-0 lead.
McNabb was even better the next time he stepped onto the field, finding his two tight ends for a couple of huge completions during a five-play, 87-yard touchdown drive. After Brian Westbrook covered 8 yards with a pair of runs, McNabb hit rookie Brent Celek over the middle for 18 yards and a first down.
The quarterback then made a remarkable pass to veteran tight end Matt Schobel, who got behind cornerback Chris Gamble and safety Chris Harris for a 58-yard gain to the 3. Rookie running back Tony Hunt scored on the next play.
McNabb completed just one more pass for a 13-yard gain to Curtis on the Eagles' next two series, and his night ended after he was thrown for a 9-yard loss on a sack by Carolina's Stanley McClover and Thomas Davis that knocked his helmet off.
When McNabb stood and trotted off, he received yet another ovation.
"For the first unit, I think we were able to click on all cylinders, which is a positive," McNabb said. "We were able to make some plays, get the guys involved, starting with Kevin. We hit Matt Schobel on the deep one. We got Westbrook involved."
Things worked out just as well for the Eagles' first-team defense. After giving up a 93-yard touchdown drive to the Ravens to open the preseason, the starting defense pitched a shutout and, thanks to Sheppard, even provided a touchdown.
The Panthers went three-and-out on their first two drives, then defensive end Juqua Thomas forced a fumble with a sack of quarterback Jake Delhomme late in the first quarter. Defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley ended up with the ball at the Carolina 41.
For Sheppard, it was his first game since he dislocated his elbow during the playoff win against the New York Giants in January. Sheppard missed the first preseason game because of a strained oblique muscle.
"It feels good to get back out there with the guys," he said. "I told the guys at the beginning, 'Last week is last week. Just go out and do our thing. Relax, have fun. We're in front of our home crowd, so let's put on a show.' "
Sheppard's contribution to the show came early in the second quarter. The blitzing duo of Quintin Mikell and Chris Gocong put pressure on Delhomme as he released a throw intended for Steve Smith. Sheppard stepped in front of the Panthers' star receiver for an interception and returned the ball 40 yards for a touchdown. Sheppard covered the final yard by dragging Smith across the goal line with him.
"I was an offensive player at one point, so I guess every time I get the ball, I play offense," said Sheppard, who has three career interception returns for touchdowns. "That's my time to show my running skills, so every time I get it, I just try to score with it."
Sheppard said the defense talked about what happened in Baltimore.
"It was basically [a lack of] effort," he said. "We addressed that situation after we watched the film, and guys just wanted to come out here and show what we were really about. That was the first preseason game, and it is what it is, but that's not characteristic of us to put on that type of showing. So this week, we definitely wanted to come out and show what type of football we're capable of playing."
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20070818_McNabb__Sheppard_ignite_Eagles_win.html