Mental toughness and maturity is what is stopping this team from reaching the promised land

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Out of curiosity Steve who gives Dak a free pass? I have not seen that even his most ardent supporter dont believe he is without fault. I have seen them push back on this narrative that dak is holding the team back. Dak doesnt succeed on his own nor does he fail on his own. That missed pass to Cooks was huge thats on Dak. That being said its not changing the outcome of that game. I think the cowboys need to play better complimentary football. There are times when the defense plays all world and the offense craps the bed and visa versa.

When the defense craps the bed it usually points to crappy DL play and LB play and when the offense does its a variety of reason including a deer in the headlights QB version we get from Dak when The OL gets their butts kicked like they did on Sunday.
Dak didn't have that deer in the headlights look against the Bills. False labeling needs to stop. Not once when the cameras were shown pointed at Dak on the sidelines did Dak ever have that deer in the headlights look he has had before.
 

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If it was a single game, a one-off inexplicable loss, then dust yourself off and move on.

It does seem to be more of a pattern... a string of good-to-great games and then an "oops". Maybe this is the new norm? I don't follow other teams, so I don't know if this a general pattern or not.

One thing that seems to stand out in both the Arizona and Buffalo games was how unprepared the team looked. It wasn't just a loss, it was how they lost.
 

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Games like this last one with the Bills.. the AZ game, the 49er game all illustrate that this team just isn't on a championship level mentally. And that saddens me because I don't know what you can do about something like that. This team needs more dawgs to be sure. It's been that way for at least 20 years. A lot of comes back to Garrett and his "right kinda guy" mantra for so many years. Yes it's nice to have choir boys on you team but truth be told you need some nasty sum*****es too and we simply do not have enough of the latter. For all the flak Jerry gets for his meddling, he will at least go get a guy with some edge to him no matter the optics look like. Wonder if Rolando McClain is in shape. This team needs some guys who are willing to fight each other on the sidelines to bring the team out the doldrums. Or at least fight somebody on the other team. I love our team but this mental softness will be their undoing long before any physical softness does.. The one silver lining to this loss is that it might allow them to refocus and recenter for the next 4-5 weeks. Lord knows this teams performs much better when doubted than when everybody is pumping them up. So the Buffalo butt kicking might have done them a favor.
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If I get your drift, I agree.

The same people that call Dak this GREAT leader, proceed to blame everyone BUT dak when the team has a bad game.
Sorry but you're both off base here. At least I know in my case I have never given Dak a pass when he has played poorly. I just have never been willing to assign all the blame for losses on him. Especially not games where the whole team craps the bed. I have consistently however maintained for years that my biggest criticism of Dak is that he's too nice and that he needs to bring a little more fire on days like Sunday when the whole team needs a lift. I think he works too hard at remaining calm and maybe that's what he feels like he needs to do but I think there are times when he need to break out of that calm cool demeanor and rip some teammates a new one. HE needs to lose it sometimes.. Not a lot.. not often but every once in a while he needs to let them know he's ready to go to war and they need to come with him. Roger did it.. Troy did it.. I don't know that Romo ever had it in him to do it and I don't recall if Danny ever did it.. But I saw Roger and Troy do it.. I don't recall a time when I've seen Dak do it. The QB doesn't always have to be the leader of your team.. but it doesn't hurt if he is.. I think this team would follow Dak through the gates of hell. The question is does he have it in him to go there. There really isn't anyone else on the team that I can think of who can assume that mantle. The 49ers have 3 or 4 guys like that.. ironically their quarterback isn't one of them. If we had 3 or 4 guys at other positions with that personality Dak wouldn't need to be either.. but since we don't, it's on him. He needs to sense when the team needs energy and do whatever it takes to bring it. Run over a DB or two.. cuss out a lineman or a receiver.. get in the face of the defense.. something.. anything to get them to compete. That's what I want from Dak. And it's what this team NEEDS from Dak when it's in the doldrums.
 

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Games like this last one with the Bills.. the AZ game, the 49er game all illustrate that this team just isn't on a championship level mentally. And that saddens me because I don't know what you can do about something like that. This team needs more dawgs to be sure. It's been that way for at least 20 years. A lot of comes back to Garrett and his "right kinda guy" mantra for so many years. Yes it's nice to have choir boys on you team but truth be told you need some nasty sum*****es too and we simply do not have enough of the latter. For all the flak Jerry gets for his meddling, he will at least go get a guy with some edge to him no matter the optics look like. Wonder if Rolando McClain is in shape. This team needs some guys who are willing to fight each other on the sidelines to bring the team out the doldrums. Or at least fight somebody on the other team. I love our team but this mental softness will be their undoing long before any physical softness does.. The one silver lining to this loss is that it might allow them to refocus and recenter for the next 4-5 weeks. Lord knows this teams performs much better when doubted than when everybody is pumping them up. So the Buffalo butt kicking might have done them a favor.
I hope you're right RonnieT24. But I've been writing, each time mental toughness is questioned....."You can't keep allowing the bully to take your lunch money. You have to hit the bully in the nose, at some point."

This team needs somebody challenging teammates. I remember Dez being calmed down by Witten/Ware during the Megatron feast game, and I wondered why......."soft mentality". No one gets mad about "beatdowns". And now Micah mad at the media.......SMH.
 

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If it was a single game, a one-off inexplicable loss, then dust yourself off and move on.

It does seem to be more of a pattern... a string of good-to-great games and then an "oops". Maybe this is the new norm? I don't follow other teams, so I don't know if this a general pattern or not.

One thing that seems to stand out in both the Arizona and Buffalo games was how unprepared the team looked. It wasn't just a loss, it was how they lost.
I think some of it is the mental grind of the season. It's just inevitable that at some point teams are going to have letdowns. The fact that there hasn't been an undefeated season in over 50 years should tell you that it happens to every team every year. Maybe 5-6 games of focus is all we can expect out of this generation of players. It's going to be very interesting to see how it plays out over the next 5-6 weeks.
 

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Out of curiosity Steve who gives Dak a free pass? I have not seen that even his most ardent supporter dont believe he is without fault. I have seen them push back on this narrative that dak is holding the team back. Dak doesnt succeed on his own nor does he fail on his own. That missed pass to Cooks was huge thats on Dak. That being said its not changing the outcome of that game. I think the cowboys need to play better complimentary football. There are times when the defense plays all world and the offense craps the bed and visa versa.

When the defense craps the bed it usually points to crappy DL play and LB play and when the offense does its a variety of reason including a deer in the headlights QB version we get from Dak when The OL gets their butts kicked like they did on Sunday.
It's the OP pointing to Mental Toughness and then by-passing to Garrett as the only named contributor.
When the very same poster lauds over Dak's positive attributes (of which he does have many)....this thread is just gaslighting.
As for your last paragraph, you can't divorce DL nor OLine with Dak, his contract extension and the CAP (which will hit the contract configuration, in favor of Dak and the star players).
 

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Dak didn't have that deer in the headlights look against the Bills. False labeling needs to stop. Not once when the cameras were shown pointed at Dak on the sidelines did Dak ever have that deer in the headlights look he has had before.
ok Tad thanks for the input.
I didnt say he had it against the Bills although I wouldnt say he was Tom Brady back there I said the OL got kicked around. I said he has had them when the OL gets their butts handed to them and hes under constant pressure and thats happened against good teams with solid fronts in the past most notibly San Fran
 

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Out of curiosity Steve who gives Dak a free pass? I have not seen that even his most ardent supporter dont believe he is without fault. I have seen them push back on this narrative that dak is holding the team back. Dak doesnt succeed on his own nor does he fail on his own. That missed pass to Cooks was huge thats on Dak. That being said its not changing the outcome of that game. I think the cowboys need to play better complimentary football. There are times when the defense plays all world and the offense craps the bed and visa versa.

When the defense craps the bed it usually points to crappy DL play and LB play and when the offense does its a variety of reason including a deer in the headlights QB version we get from Dak when The OL gets their butts kicked like they did on Sunday.
Dak "looked bad" because our receivers struggled to get open all game long, plus our Oline was horrible in pass protection all game long. Dak was under pressure all game long. There were few pass plays where Dak was not under pressure. Substitute Amy other QB of liking with Dak during the Bills game, they would have "looked bad" and struggled as well for the very same reasons I just stated.
Oh by the way...I was a little too broad with my comment. I should have said "some" or "a few".
 

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Oh by the way...I was a little too broad with my comment. I should have said "some" or "a few".
The fact of the matter is all QBs "struggle" under the circumstance in which Dak found himself Sunday... no blocking and no receivers getting open. A possible solution would have been for him to run more either by design or on scrambles but when the line is losing across the board there aren't a lot of escape opportunities. That's when McCarthy needs to create those opportunities.. even if it's some moving pockets to get Dak out on the edge with better downfield vision AND better leverage to take off if everything is covered up.
 

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Games like this last one with the Bills.. the AZ game, the 49er game all illustrate that this team just isn't on a championship level mentally. And that saddens me because I don't know what you can do about something like that. This team needs more dawgs to be sure. It's been that way for at least 20 years. A lot of comes back to Garrett and his "right kinda guy" mantra for so many years. Yes it's nice to have choir boys on you team but truth be told you need some nasty sum*****es too and we simply do not have enough of the latter. For all the flak Jerry gets for his meddling, he will at least go get a guy with some edge to him no matter the optics look like. Wonder if Rolando McClain is in shape. This team needs some guys who are willing to fight each other on the sidelines to bring the team out the doldrums. Or at least fight somebody on the other team. I love our team but this mental softness will be their undoing long before any physical softness does.. The one silver lining to this loss is that it might allow them to refocus and recenter for the next 4-5 weeks. Lord knows this teams performs much better when doubted than when everybody is pumping them up. So the Buffalo butt kicking might have done them a favor.
As much as I agree with about half of that I do not agree that we don't have mental toughness or maturity I don't know where you're getting that from I mean if you looked at them they were upset visibly and you seen what Zach Martin did got that 15 yarder smart or not smart it showed they had fight I think you're mistaking that team being tired sick injured and just not ready for this game and the fact is I think it was the coaches fault some of it on Mike McCarthy I mean why didn't he throw the red flag and do a replay on that possible fumble why did Dan Quinn stay in nickel and dime all game why did he put his players in a position to be playing the wrong type of defense with the wrong size players against 49 run plays?

I'm putting the blame more on the coaches the game plan the lack of adjustments the wrong play calls I mean if you look at the players themselves they seemed upset at the calls they they were trying to hit and block punts I think the effort was there I just think when things snowball at the beginning of a game like 8 minutes in you can almost get the feeling that the rest of the game's gonna be like that but the way they fought back over and over against Seattle who by the way just beat the Eagles I can't agree with the fact that they're not mentally tough or mature and using a 49er game the 49er does that to everyone...

It is ironic though that needing a guy to be fiery like Dez Bryant or Terrell Owens or even somewhat Michael Irvin there are dudes that we used to have on the team and some people thought were distraction and didn't like all that going on in the sideline but I think it's healthy for a team to have one or two players like that that are telling it like it is that live through emotions I'm not saying we need a guy like that I I think we may have a few but nowhere near the level of Dez Bryant or Terrell Owens and I love those dudes I I liked what they did they literally I don't care if it looks selfish could fire up a team...
 

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Games like this last one with the Bills.. the AZ game, the 49er game all illustrate that this team just isn't on a championship level mentally. And that saddens me because I don't know what you can do about something like that. This team needs more dawgs to be sure. It's been that way for at least 20 years. A lot of comes back to Garrett and his "right kinda guy" mantra for so many years. Yes it's nice to have choir boys on you team but truth be told you need some nasty sum*****es too and we simply do not have enough of the latter. For all the flak Jerry gets for his meddling, he will at least go get a guy with some edge to him no matter the optics look like. Wonder if Rolando McClain is in shape. This team needs some guys who are willing to fight each other on the sidelines to bring the team out the doldrums. Or at least fight somebody on the other team. I love our team but this mental softness will be their undoing long before any physical softness does.. The one silver lining to this loss is that it might allow them to refocus and recenter for the next 4-5 weeks. Lord knows this teams performs much better when doubted than when everybody is pumping them up. So the Buffalo butt kicking might have done them a favor.
Is your expectation that the Cowboys would never lose a game if they had some 'dawg' in them?
 

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We are in the playoffs. Buffalo has to win every game for a chance. For those who never played the sport desperate teams are tough to beat.
so we are just happy to be in the playoffs? We don't want a chance to host a home game where we are actually pretty tough to beat?

And I played the sport so you can save me the excuses.
 

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So the eagles should blame Sirianni for their recent woes? I agree. Fire the obnoxious bum. :laugh:
The Eagles will never win a SB with Siranni and his inability to call a game... I want the Eagles to give me a 10 year extension.
 

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Is your expectation that the Cowboys would never lose a game if they had some 'dawg' in them?
Not at all.. however it is absolutely my expectation that we would not watch any of these "don't show up" games. It's not possible for a team to be "on" every week. Some days you're just not going to have it. I can live with those games. It's the games where they don't even compete that bother me..
 

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Sorry but you're both off base here. At least I know in my case I have never given Dak a pass when he has played poorly. I just have never been willing to assign all the blame for losses on him. Especially not games where the whole team craps the bed. I have consistently however maintained for years that my biggest criticism of Dak is that he's too nice and that he needs to bring a little more fire on days like Sunday when the whole team needs a lift. I think he works too hard at remaining calm and maybe that's what he feels like he needs to do but I think there are times when he need to break out of that calm cool demeanor and rip some teammates a new one. HE needs to lose it sometimes.. Not a lot.. not often but every once in a while he needs to let them know he's ready to go to war and they need to come with him. Roger did it.. Troy did it.. I don't know that Romo ever had it in him to do it and I don't recall if Danny ever did it.. But I saw Roger and Troy do it.. I don't recall a time when I've seen Dak do it. The QB doesn't always have to be the leader of your team.. but it doesn't hurt if he is.. I think this team would follow Dak through the gates of hell. The question is does he have it in him to go there. There really isn't anyone else on the team that I can think of who can assume that mantle. The 49ers have 3 or 4 guys like that.. ironically their quarterback isn't one of them. If we had 3 or 4 guys at other positions with that personality Dak wouldn't need to be either.. but since we don't, it's on him. He needs to sense when the team needs energy and do whatever it takes to bring it. Run over a DB or two.. cuss out a lineman or a receiver.. get in the face of the defense.. something.. anything to get them to compete. That's what I want from Dak. And it's what this team NEEDS from Dak when it's in the doldrums.
We have the best QB in the NFL and we need to stop shying away from it :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
 
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