Mercilis or McClellan

[cowboy_ron]

WHo is the better fit and would be the most effective as a true Pass rusher?

 

[Wulfman]

McClellan.

Mercilus is a pure pass rusher, but he's a bit of a one-trick pony at this point, and would have trouble setting the edge or playing the run at a high level. Not saying he couldn't develop into it, but he's not there yet.

To play opposite Ware, the Cowboys need a guy that can play the run, set the edge, and then put his hand on the ground in passing situations. McClellan did that standing up at OLB, at DE, and even swapped in on some fronts and rushed from the DT position. That versatility is an added bonus in Ryan's scheme.

 

[cowboy_ron]

McClellan.

Mercilus is a pure pass rusher, but he's a bit of a one-trick pony at this point, and would have trouble setting the edge or playing the run at a high level. Not saying he couldn't develop into it, but he's not there yet.

To play opposite Ware, the Cowboys need a guy that can play the run, set the edge, and then put his hand on the ground in passing situations. McClellan did that standing up at OLB, at DE, and even swapped in on some fronts and rushed from the DT position. That versatility is an added bonus in Ryan's scheme.

That's kind of my thoughts as well wulf..just wanted some other opinions to be sure

 

[theogt]

Im going to disagree strongly with Wulf here. McClellin is about as safe a pick as you can get in the draft. He is excellent at defending the run. He holds the edge and then sheds blockers like the best in the league. Hes, of course, a natural pass rusher too with the size and speed to dominate NFL tackles. Just love this guy all around.

 

[Wulfman]

Im going to disagree strongly with Wulf here. McClellin is about as safe a pick as you can get in the draft. He is excellent at defending the run. He holds the edge and then sheds blockers like the best in the league. Hes, of course, a natural pass rusher too with the size and speed to dominate NFL tackles. Just love this guy all around.

How are you disagreeing with me when I said McClellan was the better fit?

 

[theogt]

How are you disagreeing with me when I said McClellan was the better fit?

Just the bit about defending the run. I think he's as good at setting the edge as any player I've seen come out of college.

 

[Jenky]

Just the bit about defending the run. I think he's as good at setting the edge as any player I've seen come out of college.

lol, Dude, Wulf basically said all that. I don't understand what you are disagreeing with either.

 

[theogt]

lol, Dude, Wulf basically said all that. I don't understand what you are disagreeing with either.

Crap, I thought he said he would have trouble setting the edge and defending the run at a high level. But that was Mercilus. I'm reading too quickly on a mobile device in a hospital waiting room. Ignore me.

 

[SDogo]

You know my answer....lol

 

[btcutter]

Just based on this board's opinion of this kid there is no way he make it out if the 1st round. I'll be shocked if he got by NE. I almost wish we trade down a bit and draft this kid.

 

[jobberone]

McClellan.

Mercilus is a pure pass rusher, but he's a bit of a one-trick pony at this point, and would have trouble setting the edge or playing the run at a high level. Not saying he couldn't develop into it, but he's not there yet.

To play opposite Ware, the Cowboys need a guy that can play the run, set the edge, and then put his hand on the ground in passing situations. McClellan did that standing up at OLB, at DE, and even swapped in on some fronts and rushed from the DT position. That versatility is an added bonus in Ryan's scheme.

Exactly my take on Mercilus. If we didn't have Ware I'd be interested.

 

[BAT]

Depends on the fit you are looking for. If you are trying to replace Spencer, then McClellan has similar athleticism to Spencer. McClellan is a little faster and more fluid, but he is more versatile, better football IQ, tough as nails, and has a more impressive work ethic. Unlike Spencer, McClellan is an all day sucker.

However, Spencer was the more productive pass rusher in college.

If the fit is to bring in a player who will complement both Ware and Spencer, then Mercilus is the pick. Mercilus is not only the superior pass rusher, but he also has a great work ethic, and has just started to figure out the game. Ware is also 30 and if he ever goes down, Cowboys would need another dynamic pass rusher. That would be Mercilus.

Following the Giants' model would be to add another dynamic player, that would be Mercilus. Either player would fine addtions to the Cowboys roster.

I love Mercilus, but a small trade down for another 2nd and taking McClellan would be just as sweet. And then use one of those 2nd's to take Irvin. Now you have a replacement for both Spencer AND a dynamic pass rusher to eventually supplement/complement Ware.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

Neither. I'm looking at curry, Lewis, branch bequette.... These are two of my least favorite prospects along with upshaw.

 

[a_minimalist]

hasn't mcclellan had 3 concussions already? isn't that an enormous red flag?

 

[fishspill]

Whitney Mercilus. Both are good football players, but I think Mercilus is better. He's behind only Cox and DeCastro for me at #14. I don't much like the idea of trading down if we lose out on getting one of these three.

 

[Wulfman]

Exactly my take on Mercilus. If we didn't have Ware I'd be interested.

So would I.

 

[Randy White]

take Mercilis

 

[Randy White]

why I would take Whitney Mercilus is because, imo, he has more upside than McClellan. Mercilus' story is starting to remind me of JPP ( Giants ) story. The Beagles passed on JPP for Brandon Graham because they had questions about JPP's production at SoFLA. The Titans thought they had the best pass rusher in the draft when they selected Derrick Morgan and let it known that they would have picked him over JPP if they had to.

Ironically, both of those teams had a JPP type DE who was very successful for them in Jevon Kearse.

Physically, I think JPP and Mercilus are near identical and while I don't know for sure if that type of talent would translate to a 3-4 OLB, just the thought of Mercilus in one side with B-Ware on the other, gives me a huge

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Neither in the first round.

 

[Oh_Canada]

This one tears at my heart strings as I like both players.

However, McClellin's history with concussions combined with Mercilus' upside and physcial tools give the edge to Whitney. I think he can spend the year focusing on rushing the passer while improving his strength.

Love both guys though so I'd be ecstatic for either.