Micah will still move around on defense

Spottswoode

Well-Known Member
Messages
346
Reaction score
265
He had 1.5 sacks the final 6 games. He is not big enough to battle LTs all game, and its silly to put him there unless the goal is to wear him down.
People need to chill…he won’t be a full time anything. The hand wringing on this site is comical. He is not trying to be a NT. He is just adding a few pounds on a frame that can easily handle it.

As long as he is doing this under supervision and not through a Big Mac diet, he’ll be fine. When you find yourself on the ledge looking over, just ask yourself WWMND.
Do you read or just make things up as you go?


The tweet LITERALLY says he is bulking up to be a full time DE.
That didn’t age well.

Not sure why you decided to go personal about me making things up. He was primarily a DE last year.
 

conner01

Well-Known Member
Messages
28,855
Reaction score
26,549
all the hub bub about Micah being a De is just that. Nothing will be any different. His role will remain the same.
Nothing going to change very much other than he may not drop in coverage as much
I like him rushing from the inside some
You get Sam, Dlaw, Armstrong, and Micah all coming after the Qb
 

Praxit

Well-Known Member
Messages
12,737
Reaction score
13,814
...playing DE, will surely take years off his career. Be smart, stick to hybrid.
 

glimmerman

Well-Known Member
Messages
30,561
Reaction score
30,276
He had 1.5 sacks the final 6 games. He is not big enough to battle LTs all game, and its silly to put him there unless the goal is to wear him down.
He is trying to put on 10 pounds of muscle in off season. If he can keep his speed then it will help but not sure if it’s enough to be DE most of the time. He was worn out and dinged up half way through the season. He needs to be moved around to MLB behind Mazi. And he needs to come off the field some and get a breather.
 

exciter

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,072
Reaction score
3,782
More important to me how any added weight changes his mobility and quickness along with possible injuries. That worries me the most if he goes outside what his frame is used to carrying. Time will tell.
Believe Demarcus Ware once said he would bulk up to 265 in preparation for the season and would be around 245 by seasons end. Can’t see how adding 10lb of muscle would create any appreciable change in mobility!
 

removed_20241105

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,335
Reaction score
1,608
Believe Demarcus Ware once said he would bulk up to 265 in preparation for the season and would be around 245 by seasons end. Can’t see how adding 10lb of muscle would create any appreciable change in mobility!
Hope you’re right.
 

CalPolyTechnique

Well-Known Member
Messages
27,635
Reaction score
44,523
Some of you apparently don't understand how to read.

Archer's tweet is showing that in the last regular 8 games he only lined up at LB a total of 19 times. In other words, he wasn't be moved around and being played predominantly at EDGE/DE.
 

atlantacowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
19,265
Reaction score
26,703
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
He is trying to put on 10 pounds of muscle in off season. If he can keep his speed then it will help but not sure if it’s enough to be DE most of the time. He was worn out and dinged up half way through the season. He needs to be moved around to MLB behind Mazi. And he needs to come off the field some and get a breather.
He is trying to put on 10 pounds of muscle in off season. If he can keep his speed then it will help but not sure if it’s enough to be DE most of the time. He was worn out and dinged up half way through the season. He needs to be moved around to MLB behind Mazi. And he needs to come off the field some and get a breather.
I'm not sure added muscle is going to make him more able to push through a 320 lb left tackle. His best asset is his speed. His goal should be to play the game like Von Miller who played his entire career under 250 lbs. Adding muscle is a risk not just in terms of diminishing his speed but also putting more stress on his knees and all the soft tissue in the lower body. If the goal here is to make him into a DE, I think he's not a going to be as effective. He needs to be a LB who lines up all over the DL.
 

xwalker

Well-Known Member
Messages
57,170
Reaction score
64,688
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
I think it's an effort by Micah and agent to get the maximum contract based on position designation. I mean, just in case anybody wanted to play dumb come negotiating time.

The NFL is kinda already calling both DEs and outside linebackers who primarily rush the passer just Edge Rushers and paying them near the same, so I don't think it will be an issue.

But just in case, I think the distinction between the normal linebacker pay and defensive end pay is what Micah and his agent are going after. Just letting everyone know he's on the TJ Watt linebacker/DE tier of pay scale.

jmo
TJ Watt is LB...
 

xwalker

Well-Known Member
Messages
57,170
Reaction score
64,688
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Some of you apparently don't understand how to read.

Archer's tweet is showing that in the last regular 8 games he only lined up at LB a total of 19 times. In other words, he wasn't be moved around and being played predominantly at EDGE/DE.
It was obvious from watching the games that he was primarily DE in 2022.

2022 Primarily DE
2021 Primarily LB
 

glimmerman

Well-Known Member
Messages
30,561
Reaction score
30,276
I'm not sure added muscle is going to make him more able to push through a 320 lb left tackle. His best asset is his speed. His goal should be to play the game like Von Miller who played his entire career under 250 lbs. Adding muscle is a risk not just in terms of diminishing his speed but also putting more stress on his knees and all the soft tissue in the lower body. If the goal here is to make him into a DE, I think he's not a going to be as effective. He needs to be a LB who lines up all over the DL.
You mean pretty much like his rookie season. He was very impressive. But I also realize teams now have film on him and can scheme to beat him. That’s why having other talent is a need. You can scheme for one but having 2 or 3 that can get home or pressure consistently is something you don’t beat. Hoping Mazi can be instant impact player at his position. And others step up. We know what we get from players like LVE.
 

atlantacowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
19,265
Reaction score
26,703
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
You mean pretty much like his rookie season. He was very impressive. But I also realize teams now have film on him and can scheme to beat him. That’s why having other talent is a need. You can scheme for one but having 2 or 3 that can get home or pressure consistently is something you don’t beat. Hoping Mazi can be instant impact player at his position. And others step up. We know what we get from players like LVE.
He is not as effective at DE. 1.5 sacks the final 6 games filling in on the edge instead of moving around the DL. I think lining him up and crashing him into a LT all day is taking away what makes him special and neutralizing him for the other team.
 

Mac_MaloneV1

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,437
Reaction score
5,729
He's so versatile that keeping him at one position seems like a waste. DQ should do everything he can to hide 11
You're not going to hide him lol. They'll still move him around into the A-gap and things in blitz packages, but it's not like an offense is going to lose him.
 

jazzcat22

Staff member
Messages
80,604
Reaction score
101,267
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
DQ will continue to move him around based upon the offense they are facing.

It also depends upon the emergence of Sam Williams as a pass rusher and his playing time, along with Armstrong, if he improves any as well.
Also where does Fowler come into play with all of this.

Basically it is all off-season talk and hoopla. I will wait until the games are played otherwise. Nothing to be concerned over. We all know this defense has some great potential.
So it doesn't matter where Micah lines up the most at, as long as he stays productive. But at a more consistent level. As to the last month of the season and playoffs. Not to get worn down as it seems he has done.
That is on the coaching staff to make sure that does not happen again. One of these years Micah himself may realize that.
 

glimmerman

Well-Known Member
Messages
30,561
Reaction score
30,276
He is not as effective at DE. 1.5 sacks the final 6 games filling in on the edge instead of moving around the DL. I think lining him up and crashing him into a LT all day is taking away what makes him special and neutralizing him for the other team.
Totally agree. Move him around and let him come behind Mazi.
 
Top