Micah's brother is ripping Rashan Gary

[Kwyn]

good point, but teams are able to be successful without just having one main guy to depend on (seattle superbowl)

If I had a nickel for every time a poster here used Seattle’s elite defense as an example of what we might expect I’d have three hundred nickels.

 

[Coogiguy03]

If I had a nickel for every time a poster here used Seattle’s elite defense as an example of what we might expect I’d have three hundred nickels.

never did I say we're going to BE them, it was just an example

 

[MarcusRock]

good point, but teams are able to be successful without just having one main guy to depend on (seattle superbowl)

That wasn't our initial plan though. Remember that the team tried to trade for Crosby with picks after securing Q for picks. So we tried to have another main guy and just fell flat. So we have little choice but to hope for a Seattle system of success except our guys are less known quantities. It's an area of concern, IMO.

 

[big dog cowboy]

never did I say we're going to BE them, it was just an example

He didn't say that's what you said. He literally used the word 'example' in his post.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

to be fair i recall reading he was going to be cut, so a 4th rounded seemed about Jerry's going rate for players likely to be cut. Hopefully Gary lives up to all the hype.

I read the same, he wasn't living up to expectations/ salary and the writing was on the wall. CP seems like a dynamic defensive coordinator that might be able to get better use out of Gary though, so fingers crossed.

 

[Kwyn]

I read the same, he wasn't living up to expectations/ salary and the writing was on the wall. CP seems like a dynamic defensive coordinator that might be able to get better use out of Gary though, so fingers crossed.

As mentioned elsewhere, Gary did not want to be a free agent, which is unusual for any player his age. He took a $10m cut to his contract to help sweeten the deal for the Cowboys.

 

[Q_the_man]

I see Terrence Parsons has been taking lessons from Tad Prescott.

TPs brothers, lol. How ironic is that.

Now I see why Jerry Traded MP, he couldnt have 2 brothers talking crap when neither one plays football at all

 

[HungryLion]

I have never said that. What I keep saying is that dodo Jerry would never have traded for the likes of Q if he had resigned Micah. I would have preferred to have both but not possible that Jerry would have done it.

BTW, I’m referring to the future, not last years poop show.

That’s the problem isn’t it. The Cowboys failed to put any DT’s or LB’s around Micah. And then people want to blame Micah when the defense isn’t good enough.

Imagine having Micah AND good DT’s AND good LB’s? That would have been ideal.

But then the Jones try to sell the fan base on “oh if we trade Micah we can get 5 pro bowl players” or whatever other nonsense they said.

I’m actually bullish on Malachi Lawrence. I think he will be very good. And I think EZE will be good.

But the front office is CONSTANTLY putting us on a position where we are relying on rookies and young players to be starters/key contributors to have any type of success. And then inevitably they fall short because it’s not realistic to expect rookies and 2nd year players to always be impact players who can lead the team.

 

[HungryLion]

It’s not just the cap math, it’s the fact the Micah is already going to miss the first quarter of the season if not half and I don’t like his prospects for every being the same or not dealing with a lot of injuries going forward. Then there’s the angle of what we got instead, some stud DTs which I value more and has been a long time unaddressed need.
Jerry’s dumb luck made him all that money, he can go broke for all I care

Hard to make the injury argument when we don’t know if Micah would have gotten injured had he stayed with the cowboys.

Also Gary is a human too. He could theoretically get injured at any time also.

 

[DarkVader33]

That’s the problem isn’t it. The Cowboys failed to put any DT’s or LB’s around Micah. And then people want to blame Micah when the defense isn’t good enough.

Imagine having Micah AND good DT’s AND good LB’s? That would have been ideal.

But then the Jones try to sell the fan base on “oh if we trade Micah we can get 5 pro bowl players” or whatever other nonsense they said.

I’m actually bullish on Malachi Lawrence. I think he will be very good. And I think EZE will be good.

But the front office is CONSTANTLY putting us on a position where we are relying on rookies and young players to be starters/key contributors to have any type of success. And then inevitably they fall short because it’s not realistic to expect rookies and 2nd year players to always be impact players who can lead the team.

No argument there. But I do blame Micah and the coaches for playing him out of position. Micah isn’t going to hold up being a full time DL. One of the reasons I was okay with him being traded. If we had used him properly and had surrounded him with better talent, then heck yes I’d still want him on the team.

 

[DarkVader33]

Hard to make the injury argument when we don’t know if Micah would have gotten injured had he stayed with the cowboys.

Also Gary is a human too. He could theoretically get injured at any time also.

I think the argument that some are trying to make, as well as my opinion, is that Micah won’t hold up playing out of position. Every single year he would disappear towards the end of the season and or playoffs. Gary is built more for his position so less risk.

 

[JW82]

Oh No! I hope Demarcus Lawrences, sister likes Gary! Who cares?

 

[ghst187]

Hard to make the injury argument when we don’t know if Micah would have gotten injured had he stayed with the cowboys.

Also Gary is a human too. He could theoretically get injured at any time also.

Maybe maybe not but I still think it was inevitable and will be a continual issue for him going forward which was the biggest reason i was against paying him. And it’s not just Gary, we added Q and Clark largely in part bc we parted with Micah.

 

[ghst187]

If you can’t be bothered to take two minutes to understand the bare facts on a subject, at least refrain from posting misinformation in an attempt to justify your “feelings”

There isn’t more to understand…
And to project I have feelings I need to justify about something like this is silly. Call it as it stands. Sounds more like you are the one with the need to justify feelings

 

[ghst187]

Actually if you are going by cap hit this year its...

Gary - 16m
Micah - 19.2m

Glad we traded him for other reasons but get the number right.

Yawn……it’s money that has to be accounted for sooner or later. If Gary is so bad we cut him after 2026, it’s not that bad as far as dead money goes. Wait til GB wants to get out from under Micah’s contract….
Not many criticize Jones as harshly as I do but he made the right move on Micah other than waiting and broadcasting he was trading him when he did.

 

[HungryLion]

I think the argument that some are trying to make, as well as my opinion, is that Micah won’t hold up playing out of position. Every single year he would disappear towards the end of the season and or playoffs. Gary is built more for his position so less risk.

Then again Gary’s production drops towards the end of the year too.

 

[HungryLion]

Maybe maybe not but I still think it was inevitable and will be a continual issue for him going forward which was the biggest reason i was against paying him. And it’s not just Gary, we added Q and Clark largely in part bc we parted with Micah.

Right but my point is. That the FO makes that **** up. They should have been adding good DT’s to play with Micah.

Just because you have an elite edge defender doesn’t mean the FO should have kept putting absolute garbage at DT next to him.

 

[HungryLion]

No argument there. But I do blame Micah and the coaches for playing him out of position. Micah isn’t going to hold up being a full time DL. One of the reasons I was okay with him being traded. If we had used him properly and had surrounded him with better talent, then heck yes I’d still want him on the team.

Ultimately I’ve moved on and fine with the Micah trade. I love Quinnen Williams. My argument is more just not wanting to let the FO off the hook for failing to build around him when he was here.

People want to look back and blame Micah for the run defense. When in reality he wasn’t the problem. The DT’s and LB’s were. And the FO scapegoated Micah because the FO never takes responsibility themselves for anything.

And if the current rendition of the Cowboys fails, they’ll just choose another scapegoat. Quinnen Williams is an elite DT but if they fail to put more guys around him. A few years from now the front office will just blame him.

 

[dfense]

Again, so glad Micah is not a Cowboy.

 

[vlad]

I read the same, he wasn't living up to expectations/ salary and the writing was on the wall. CP seems like a dynamic defensive coordinator that might be able to get better use out of Gary though, so fingers crossed.

Most reasonable post of all time