Mike Glennon for a 4th or 5th?

[Kolemmitt]

I consider myself to be in the, go QB with the #1 pick, camp, but I also do not want the Cowboys to select a QB just for the sake of taking a QB at that spot.

I am not in the camp of taking on Manziel and I am not too big on taking on RGIII.

Someone in another thread mentioned Mike Glennon as a possibility. To be honest, I only watched him play a couple of times, but I remember thinking he was doing pretty well on a really bad team and that he has all the tools to be a NFL quarterback. He is a FA at the end of the year and he obviously is not the future of that franchise. They would likely be willing to part with him for a 4th or 5th round pick. I think he would be a solid backup right away and might be something more in the future after spending a couple or three years backing up and learning from Romo. I would envision pairing him with a mid round QB like Hogan or Prescott to provide competition.

I am not in any way sold on the idea, but I would like to get other thoughts on the guy and the possibility.

 

[egn22]

I haven't watched him much but I remember hearing he's tall and has a rocket arm, but he's not too accurate. Don't know much about pocket presence or his ability to read defenses.
I'm interested in learning more about him.

 

[reddyuta]

dont waste picks on any more jags.

 

[ccb04]

Have been saying this for a while...particularly if they elect not to go QB early. Glennon could potentially kill the proverbial two birds with one stone. A solid immediate back up...while being young enough to continue to develop & factor in longer-term. While being thrown into the fire and starting nearly 20 games as a rookie & 2nd year player, Glennon had a touchdown to interception ratio of 2-to-1.

Greg Cosell on Glennon: I was surprised nobody swung a trade for Glennon this offseason. NFL Films senior producer Greg Cosell called him "far more advanced" than Robert Griffin III, saying "they shouldn't even be in the same discussion." Glennon played behind one of the NFL's worst lines last year and it showed, but his 18 career starts include moments of genuine promise.

Lovie Smith acknowledged that they did indeed receive calls on Glennon during the last offseason...but they obviously elected to keep him.

More from Cosell: “I think they (the Bucs) are getting really quality quarterback play from Mike Glennon, who is without question the best rookie quarterback in this class,” Cosell continued. ... “When your quarterback makes difficult anticipation throws, everything about your offense tends to look better.”

Aside from the draft...I think Glennon is the best potential trade or free agent option.

 

[Dhragon]

The team who drafted him went a different direction. He wasn't good enough for them but good enough for us? I'd prefer to get our own home grown prospect then try and make something out of another's scraps.

 

[Vinnie2u]

He's a statue.. Let's get someone more mobile that doesn't have the name Manziel.

 

[ccb04]

The team who drafted him went a different direction. He wasn't good enough for them but good enough for us? I'd prefer to get our own home grown prospect then try and make something out of another's scraps.

They went a different direction under a new coaching regime. And the fact that they chose to draft Winston doesn't mean Glennon can't play. Winston was a heck of a talent...and the draft position lined up for them. While starting 13 games as a rookie, Glennon threw 19 TD's vs. 9 Int's and completed nearly 60% of his passes. He only started 5 games the following season. The sample size on Glennon isn't overly large...but as Greg Cosell mentioned, he showed genuine promise when starting. He's still younger & has room for development/improvement...but has also demonstrated he can play at the NFL level.

 

[Aven8]

It's not cold enough in DFW to have to wear turtlenecks all the time!

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

I consider myself to be in the, go QB with the #1 pick, camp, but I also do not want the Cowboys to select a QB just for the sake of taking a QB at that spot.

I am not in the camp of taking on Manziel and I am not too big on taking on RGIII.

Someone in another thread mentioned Mike Glennon as a possibility. To be honest, I only watched him play a couple of times, but I remember thinking he was doing pretty well on a really bad team and that he has all the tools to be a NFL quarterback. He is a FA at the end of the year and he obviously is not the future of that franchise. They would likely be willing to part with him for a 4th or 5th round pick. I think he would be a solid backup right away and might be something more in the future after spending a couple or three years backing up and learning from Romo. I would envision pairing him with a mid round QB like Hogan or Prescott to provide competition.

I am not in any way sold on the idea, but I would like to get other thoughts on the guy and the possibility.

Count me in, like Mike Glennon more than Johnny Foosball or RGhey Knee.

 

[jterrell]

Glennon is Weeden. Strong-armed guy but has a fairly slow release.
Not as accurate as Weeden even.
He's a back up type.
I wouldn't trade anything for him as he'll be a free agent soon enough.

 

[jterrell]

They went a different direction under a new coaching regime. And the fact that they chose to draft Winston doesn't mean Glennon can't play. Winston was a heck of a talent...and the draft position lined up for them. While starting 13 games as a rookie, Glennon threw 19 TD's vs. 9 Int's and completed nearly 60% of his passes. He only started 5 games the following season. The sample size on Glennon isn't overly large...but as Greg Cosell mentioned, he showed genuine promise when starting. He's still younger & has room for development/improvement...but has also demonstrated he can play at the NFL level.

Sorry but that's slightly inaccurate and also missing a ton of pertinent data.
He completed a hair under 60% of his passes and his comp % went down a bit his 2nd season.
The real issue is however that he took wayyyyy too many sacks. As a rookie he ate 40.
He held the ball a looonnnngggg time.

He is not a good QB. Tampa went a different direction because he was 5-13 as a starter and they didn't see the growth.
Glennon is NOT a good QB and he has zero chance to effectively run this offense.
He may well be in demand for someone running an old school pro style play action offense but that's not Dallas.

 

[texbumthelife]

Sorry but that's slightly inaccurate and also missing a ton of pertinent data.
He completed a hair under 60% of his passes and his comp % went down a bit his 2nd season.
The real issue is however that he took wayyyyy too many sacks. As a rookie he ate 40.
He held the ball a looonnnngggg time.

He is not a good QB. Tampa went a different direction because he was 5-13 as a starter and they didn't see the growth.
Glennon is NOT a good QB and he has zero chance to effectively run this offense.
He may well be in demand for someone running an old school pro style play action offense but that's not Dallas.

There is a team in the NFL playing a more old school style of offense than Dallas? That's frightening...

As for the OP, I think if they can get Glennon for a fifth, its a good trade, but I would rather use that 5th on Manziel.

I agree with a lot of what JTerrel said. Glennon's biggest short coming is he holds the ball far too long. He's got a lot of room to grow, but he isn't any less gifted than any of the quarterbacks in this draft and certainly doesn't have any more question marks.

 

[ccb04]

Sorry but that's slightly inaccurate and also missing a ton of pertinent data.
He completed a hair under 60% of his passes and his comp % went down a bit his 2nd season.
The real issue is however that he took wayyyyy too many sacks. As a rookie he ate 40.
He held the ball a looonnnngggg time.

He is not a good QB. Tampa went a different direction because he was 5-13 as a starter and they didn't see the growth.
Glennon is NOT a good QB and he has zero chance to effectively run this offense.
He may well be in demand for someone running an old school pro style play action offense but that's not Dallas.

Really nothing inaccurate about what I posted...and it's not missing 'a ton of pertinent data'. I posted that Glennon completed 'nearly' 60% of his passes as a rookie, and he did (59.4%). I also mentioned he basically had a 2-to-1 touchdown-to-interception ratio as a rookie/2nd year starter, and he did (29 TD's vs. 15 Int's).

If you don't like Glennon & think he'd be a bad fit for the offense, that's fine...but you seem to be forgetting a few 'pertinent' things yourself. Yes, he went 5-13 as a starter, but the TEAM wasn't very good. And it's hard to 'see the growth' when not given more of an opportunity. When Lovie Smith took over...he brought in 'his guy' Josh McCown, whom he was comfortable with & who had been with him for 3 seasons in Chicago & started a few games for him there. McCown was named the starter straight away...the only reason Glennon started in 2014 was because McCown missed 5 games. McCown started 11 games for the Bucs in 2014...he completed 56.3% of his passes, with 11 TD's vs. 14 Int's, and had 10 fumbles with 4 lost. And as a 12 year veteran at the time, McCown took 36 sacks in 11 starts. Again, as Greg Cosell mentioned, their OL wasn't very good. McCown also went 1-10 as a starter...which is how they ended up with the #1 overall pick & drafted Winston.

 

[Kolemmitt]

Thanks for the replies. I'm not surprised that the responses have been mixed.
It's really hard to judge a young guy that is playing on a bad team. I'm not sure how many would have been high on Aikman after his first two seasons.
The thing that scares me the most is that Lovie, a coach I really respect, was looking to replace him his entire time in Tampa - of course if Lovie had one major weakness in Chicago it was not being able to hammer down the QB spot, so maybe he is not the best judge.
I think if we don't fall in love with a QB to take at #4 he might not be a bad backup plan, especially if we take a Hogan, Prescott, or Kessler in the the later rounds to compete with him.