mike singletary

[Rack]

Personally, I'd rather have some on the job experience...

A head coach has to be able to do a few things other than "motivate" players... he has to be organized, he has to be able to evaluate personnel, he has to be able to make adjustments in the course of a game...

Show me where Mike Singletary has any kind of a track record in any of those areas...

Simply being fiery isn't enough to make you a good head coach in the NFL; if it did, Bill Bates would be interviewing for a few of these head coaching vacancies...

Perhaps I'd have interest in Singletary as a defensive coordinator, but at this point, he's simply not ready yet to be a head coach... I am amazed at how many Cowboys fans in here, many of them the same fans howling for Parcells' head because he couldn't get the Boys over the hump, are willing to settle for a totally unproven quantity for their head coach...

Well, I'm not much up for GAMBLING on somebody who MIGHT make a good head coach, or who might not...

Norv has proven he can't do it.

Singleton hasn't been given the opportunity to prove anything one way or the other.

Of those two, who do you take?

 

[silverbear]

Norv has proven he can't do it.

Singleton hasn't been given the opportunity to prove anything one way or the other.

Of those two, who do you take?

Neither, actually... but if the choice HAS to be between those 2, I go with Norv, figuring that a) his previous stints as head coach were in no-win situations, and b) if he proves to be unsuited to be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, we can go back to the drawing board next offseason, a drawing board that will include the likes of Bill Cowher and Jeff Fisher...

But I can't ever see myself hiring a head coach with zero head coaching experience, and worse, zero experience as a defensive coordaintor... Mike has never had that kind of RESPONSIBILITY, you simply don't know if he's up to it or not...

Cowher as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys is my absolute ideal situation, but we can't make it happen this year... so take a chance on Norv, or even Mike, but keep it in your mind that either is on a VERY short leash-- win next year, or hit the bricks...

 

[Rack]

Neither, actually... but if the choice HAS to be between those 2, I go with Norv,.

Thank you, that's all I needed to know.


Sorry, I go with the guy that people around the league think has a bright future, not the guy that is a proven loser (as a HC).


I also prefer neither, but if it's between those two, give me Singletary. At least the player would be motivated (which is more then I could say for a Norval coached team).

 

[Deep_Freeze]

We need some passion and intensity to lead our cream puff players. If we bring in another panzy, then our team will continue to be panzies.

Listen, the culture of a team makes a huge difference in the choice of a head coach, this is a huge decision. A team with fiery and dominant team leaders can afford to have a Barry Switzer.

If Jerry brings in a softy, a panzy that will bow down to him, this team is doomed for failure cause we don't have the personnel to make it with a weak minded coach.

Is Mike that man?!?! I know his imagine says he is, but all I know is we have to hire a coach with some fire in his belly. If thats Mike, so be it. But a guy like Cowher or Fisher is what we really need, if Mike fits that type, I'm all for it.

 

[silverbear]

Thank you, that's all I needed to know.


Sorry, I go with the guy that people around the league think has a bright future, not the guy that is a proven loser (as a HC).

Never figured you to be one to follow the herd mentality, Rack...

So, because Norv didn't succeed in Washington, then failed miserably at that black hole of coaching known as the Raiders, that means he'll never, ever be successful in any other situation??

As for those who are so certain that Singletary has a bright future, I'll merely ask WHY??

What exactly has he accomplished in his time in the NFL to make you so sanguine about his future as a head coach?? He hasn't even been a defensive coordinator anywhere before this... to me, Jason Garrett is every bit as qualified to be a head coach as Singletary is, and hiring him for that job would be a rather stupid gamble...

If you have a bad team that you're fixing to blow up and start from scratch with, then maybe you go with the unknown, but if you have a pretty fair team on your hand, you don't turn the reins to that team over to an unknown...

What I suggest here is that we take a closer look at Mike's coaching career thus far:

2003/2004... linebackers coach, Baltimore Ravens... Singeltary had the great good fortune of taking over perhaps the best group of linebackers in the history of the NFL... he helped that unit help the Ravens to a 3rd ranking in total defense in 2003, then they regressed just a little to 6th overall in 2004...

But how much credit does Mike deserve for those rankings, when the Ravens ranked 5th in total defense the year after he left, and 1st in total defense last year??

Then he came to the Niners, who were coming off a 13th ranking in total defense in 2003, followed by a 24th ranking in 2004... and in 2005, that unit ranked DEAD LAST in the NFL in total defense; not only did Singletary not turn that unit around, they got even WORSE... last year represented a little improvement, but only a little, as the Niners ranked 26th in total defense...

I dunno, I don't see any situations in which it could be argued that Mike Singletary got more out of his players than their talent suggests he should have... the Ravens had really, really good linebackers, the core of a really, really good defense, but they ranked higher after he left than they did while he was with them...

As for the Niners, they were a shaky defense at best when he took that job, and have arguably gotten worse in the past 2 years...

Which leads me to ask once again, what exactly has he accomplished in the NFL (as a coach, I won't minimize his credentials as a player) that makes all you Mike Singletary fans so certain he can be successful as the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys??

Is it his "motivational" skills?? H*ll, if that's all you're after, the Boys ought to go out and hire Tony Robbins...

 

[Spectre]

how many would like for mike singletary to be our next head coach?

i would.

"i like this kind of party!!!!"

" we're going to be here all day baby!!!"

we need this kind of passion.

good approach for position coach...

but please, dear God don't let this guy be our next Headcoach.

 

[MapleLeaf]

...Phillips is the best choice right now with Turner as the OC and and someone of Rivera's calibre as the DC who is familiar with the 3-4. Garrett should stay as the QB coach and Singletary can prove his mustard with our LBs.

These are the Cowboys, not chopped liver for a bunch of nobodies to test their coaching skills.

If anything it's too bad we had to let Payton go to the Saints. He had serious considerations as a HC before his demotion in NY. He came to Dallas to rebuild his reputation and took time to learn his craft.

Not a bad rookie season for a HC. Payton's path and Lovie Smith's path all tell me you have to put in your time and learn how to manage an entire team before making the jump. Singletary's leap is too great for my comfort zone.

 

[Rack]

Never figured you to be one to follow the herd mentality, Rack...

I didn't bother reading the rest.

I have my own opinion, you should know that by now. I'm not following any herd. If you want to force me into that "group" then any further discussion on the subject is pointless.

 

[silverbear]

I didn't bother reading the rest.

I have my own opinion, you should know that by now. I'm not following any herd. If you want to force me into that "group" then any further discussion on the subject is pointless.

Well, the opinions you espoused were very much those of the herd these days...

But you're right, it was unfair of me to label you some kind of sheep, I know that you reach your own opinions... I still think it's legit to point out the fallacies in the theories of the herd, and you...

 

[Clove]

I too am on board with MS as DC for the Cowboys. I like Garrett as the OC, and bring in the old heavy Phillips to groom them both. Phillips would teach Singletary how to run a 1st class 3-4, and will teach Garrett the experiences of being a head guy in this league. In a couple of years if Phillips has done nothing, then you promote one of the coordinators.

 

[Rack]

Well, the opinions you espoused were very much those of the herd these days...

But you're right, it was unfair of me to label you some kind of sheep, I know that you reach your own opinions... I still think it's legit to point out the fallacies in the theories of the herd, and you...

I wouldn't know. I've only been focusing on the pro norv guys, not the pro singletary guys.


It's real simple for me, when it's between an unknown and a known failure, I go with the unknown.

As you said though, I'd prefer neither (MS as DC would be nice though).

My #1 ideal situation is:

HC Ron Rivera
DC that Manusky dude from SD or Singletary
OC Garrett

 

[silverbear]

I wouldn't know. I've only been focusing on the pro norv guys, not the pro singletary guys.


It's real simple for me, when it's between an unknown and a known failure, I go with the unknown.

As you said though, I'd prefer neither (MS as DC would be nice though).

My #1 ideal situation is:

HC Ron Rivera
DC that Manusky dude from SD or Singletary
OC Garrett

I just don't know enough about Rivera to form much of an opinion on him one way or the other...