Miles Austin - Will he return to form?

[Califan007]

He's not going to be a top 10 receiver with Dez as the clear #1, but people forget that he had a pretty good year last year. Just shy of 1000 yards with 6 touchdowns is pretty solid.

Jabar Gaffney had almost those exact same stats with Rex Grossman throwing to him lol...

 

[Doomsday101]

No, but he is among the top on this team when it comes to salary cap hits and not being dependable.

He has been dealing with injury and fact is as a WR he is not ranked at the top in pay. At 3.5 mill this season that is not a large amount for a #2 WR.

 

[CyberB0b]

He has been dealing with injury and fact is as a WR he is not ranked at the top in pay. At 3.5 mill this season that is not a large amount for a #2 WR.

He is making over 6 million this year.

 

[Doomsday101]

He is making over 6 million this year.

Cowboys are charged 3.5 mill he is not a top paid WR in the NFL for the position. Dallas cutting him loose right now would be foolish and only force us to fill the position when we don't have to.

yes he got a 5.8 bonus on the restructing of the deal but the deal as a whole is still not a high figure in comparison to other WR in the league some whom even injured Miles has put up better numbers.

He is a #2 WR

 

[Nation]

I'm more interested in winning. Dez is the #1 I don't think anyone can deny that however a healthy Miles can be a big factor for the Cowboys. Miles cap hit this year is 3.5 mill that is not alot by NFL standards. I think after this season Dallas will have to look at either moving him or cutting his salary but I don't see them moving Miles and creating another hole to fill this year

His production hasn't correlated with winning though. In 2009 we were 4-1 when Miles went over 100 yards. Since then we are 2-6 when he goes over 100, and is no longer a unique talent. The cap number for 2013 is fine, but his cap hit this year is light at the expense of future numbers. I think he's a perfectly acceptable #2 receiver in terms of talent, but it is put-up-or-shut-up time for Miles. If his explosiveness and vertical speed aren't there in 2013, and he isn't someone that can go up and fight for a football, than it is time to move on.

 

[Hoofbite]

Cowboys are charged 3.5 mill he is not a top paid WR in the NFL for the position. Dallas cutting him loose right now would be foolish and only force us to fill the position when we don't have to.

yes he got a 5.8 bonus on the restructing of the deal but the deal as a whole is still not a high figure in comparison to other WR in the league some whom even injured Miles has put up better numbers.

He is a #2 WR

He was paid to be a #1.

Arguing over where his cap number ranks is a waste of time.

He hasn't lived up to his contract. He's still good enough to keep around but he hasn't been worth $50M.

 

[Frozen700]

Top 15 is laughable but top 5 is just absurd.

As much as i dislike the thread starter....you should be laughed at for thinking he can't be or never was a top 15 WR at some point.

 

[Doomsday101]

His production hasn't correlated with winning though. In 2009 we were 4-1 when Miles went over 100 yards. Since then we are 2-6 when he goes over 100, and is no longer a unique talent. The cap number for 2013 is fine, but his cap hit this year is light at the expense of future numbers. I think he's a perfectly acceptable #2 receiver in terms of talent, but it is put-up-or-shut-up time for Miles. If his explosiveness and vertical speed aren't there in 2013, and he isn't someone that can go up and fight for a football, than it is time to move on.

His contract overall is still much lower than others in the league. I agree he is paid a lot, hell all NFL players are paid a lot but in comparison his numbers are in line not out of wack and yet while we question his production it was still better than guys getting paid more than him.

Clearly Dez is our #1 WR and Miles #2 and if he can regain his health (Hamstrings) I do think he is still young enough at 28 to help this team. I don't think he is dogging it since what has been said at Valley Ranch he does work hard maybe too much to the point that his hamstring become too tight. He has to find a way to get himself ready without putting as much stress on the hamstrings.

 

[Doomsday101]

He was paid to be a #1.

Arguing over where his cap number ranks is a waste of time.

He hasn't lived up to his contract. He's still good enough to keep around but he hasn't been worth $50M.

He is paid as a WR some of the others who are not #1 are paid more than him. Sorry but his figures now days is not what a #1 is getting. It may seem crazy but the NFL pays out big money.

 

[CIWhitefish]

As much as i dislike the thread starter....you should be laughed at for thinking he can't be or never was a top 15 WR at some point.

Yeah people seem to forget that in the preseason of the year after Miles coming out he was very highly regarded. I play fantasy football and I recall Miles being ranked around #5 at WR for that preseason. People saw that potential then and I think the original post was about can he get back to that.

 

[JonJon]

All Miles needs to do is get back with Kim Kardashian. She gave him the mojo.

 

[CyberB0b]

As much as i dislike the thread starter....you should be laughed at for thinking he can't be or never was a top 15 WR at some point.

He had the potential to be, but he never lived up to it. 1 fluke season 4 years ago doesn't make him what he is today. He is an oft injured, inconsistent #2 WR on this team. To say he is a top 5 WR today is moronic.

 

[AllProRico]

Top 15 is laughable but top 5 is just absurd.

Recs:66(30th) Yards:943(25th) TDs:6(T34) Avg. Yards:14.3(19th for those who have 50+ Recs which I thought was a good indicator since most good WRs will get at least that many) Yards/Gm:58.9(39th). He "played" 16 games and "started" 15 but honestly he ended up leaving both Commander games and another game(to which I forget which one) he ended up leaving as well so really he only ACTUALLY played in 13 games and started 12. Those are still not bad numbers coming from someone who have chronic Hammy injuries so you figure if he was fully healthy then his numbers would jump up dramatically and could land in the Top 15 receivers. With that said, he has had a handful of missed opportunities that would have upped his stats so the injuries aren't completely at play here but more often than not, he is a solid #2 possible #1 if not for the health issues.

Austin is in the same boat as Free, waiting to see how the draft plays out. I think he is likely here 2013, then gone.

Austin is nowhere near as bad as Free 'cause an injured Austin is still more productive than a 100% Free. Free was a sizable misjudgement where Austin is just injured. No one proven behind Austin(Bryant, Witten, Austin, ?) so he'll be here and if he can get 65 Recs, 1,000+ yds, and 7+ TDs then while staying healthy for most of the season then he'll be here

Austin is a good, solid, number two receiver. But there are plenty of number two's better than him.

Can't think of a team that he'd be a number one receiver on. I'm sure there is a couple, but they don't come to mind.

In my mind, that makes him a top 40ish receiver at this time. He is exciting and can fun to watch, no matter.

Raiders, Miami(pre-Mike Wallace), San Diego, St. Louis, Kansas City, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Jets, Buffalo(I'd take Miles over Stevie), Seahawks(pre-Percy Harvin), Vikings(Post-Percy Harvin), and Cleveland are all the teams that Austin would be a #1. Giants, Broncos, and Falcons are the only teams that have better #2's than Austin. Miles isn't as bad as everyone makes him out to be, it's just the fact that his hammies are trouble otherwise he'd be good to go.

 

[jimmy40]

I think last year is his form so yes I expect him to return to it.

 

[Wayne02]

Raiders, Miami(pre-Mike Wallace), San Diego, St. Louis, Kansas City, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Jets, Buffalo(I'd take Miles over Stevie), Seahawks(pre-Percy Harvin), Vikings(Post-Percy Harvin), and Cleveland are all the teams that Austin would be a #1. Giants, Broncos, and Falcons are the only teams that have better #2's than Austin. Miles isn't as bad as everyone makes him out to be, it's just the fact that his hammies are trouble otherwise he'd be good to go.[/quote]

Miami shouldn't be on your list because of Mike Wallace as you have mentioned, the Seahawks shouldn't be on your list because of Percy Harvin as you have mentioned. Kansas City has Dwayne Bowe and he is better than Miles Austin so they shouldn't be on your list, the Vikings have Greg Jennings and although he gets injured as well, he is still a better receiver than Miles Austin so Minnesota shouldn't be on your list, and Buffalo is a toss up but I'd still take Stevie Johnson because he is more reliable to be on the field so Buffalo shouldn't be on your list either.

 

[AllProRico]

Raiders, Miami(pre-Mike Wallace), San Diego, St. Louis, Kansas City, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Jets, Buffalo(I'd take Miles over Stevie), Seahawks(pre-Percy Harvin), Vikings(Post-Percy Harvin), and Cleveland are all the teams that Austin would be a #1. Giants, Broncos, and Falcons are the only teams that have better #2's than Austin. Miles isn't as bad as everyone makes him out to be, it's just the fact that his hammies are trouble otherwise he'd be good to go.

Miami shouldn't be on your list because of Mike Wallace as you have mentioned, the Seahawks shouldn't be on your list because of Percy Harvin as you have mentioned. Kansas City has Dwayne Bowe and he is better than Miles Austin so they shouldn't be on your list, the Vikings have Greg Jennings and although he gets injured as well, he is still a better receiver than Miles Austin so Minnesota shouldn't be on your list, and Buffalo is a toss up but I'd still take Stevie Johnson because he is more reliable to be on the field so Buffalo shouldn't be on your list either.[/QUOTE]

I totally forgot about Dwayne Bowe and as far as Stevie Johnson, i'll have to disagree with you because I think Austin is more reliable and more of a threat than Johnson. As far as Jennings, i'll still go Austin but that is just me.

 

[Wayne02]

Miami shouldn't be on your list because of Mike Wallace as you have mentioned, the Seahawks shouldn't be on your list because of Percy Harvin as you have mentioned. Kansas City has Dwayne Bowe and he is better than Miles Austin so they shouldn't be on your list, the Vikings have Greg Jennings and although he gets injured as well, he is still a better receiver than Miles Austin so Minnesota shouldn't be on your list, and Buffalo is a toss up but I'd still take Stevie Johnson because he is more reliable to be on the field so Buffalo shouldn't be on your list either.

I totally forgot about Dwayne Bowe and as far as Stevie Johnson, i'll have to disagree with you because I think Austin is more reliable and more of a threat than Johnson. As far as Jennings, i'll still go Austin but that is just me.[/quote]

That's fair. Austin over Johnson or Jennings is a toss up so I can see both sides of that argument.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

He'll be a solid, contributing, #2 WR if he is able to stay healthy.

Dez has proven he's taken the #1 job in Dallas and there really isn't a lot Miles is going to do about that, especially when he can't seem to stay healthy.

I think he's still a good player, a player worth having, but I still doubt he stays healthy.

 

[TonyRomo09]

I think healthy Miles is capable of top 15 type production. I will say this though. While I don't believe in "injury prone" players as it is commonly used.

I.E. X player breaks his wrist one yeah and his toe the next year and is therefore injury prone... that is just unlucky and happens to some guys in a game like this...

I do think a guy can be prone to a certain sort of injury based on his style of play, or conditioning.. I don't know what Miles could do, maybe he needs to do more lunges or something, but his Hamstrings are not up to NFL spec.. if he has anymore issues this season, it doesn't matter what his potential could be.

 

[Hoofbite]

He is paid as a WR some of the others who are not #1 are paid more than him. Sorry but his figures now days is not what a #1 is getting. It may seem crazy but the NFL pays out big money.

You could say that with any position provided you spaced your comparison points out by 4 to 5 years.

Doesn't change the fact that a specific player was paid with certain expectations in mind that ultimately haven't been realized. Hell, 40 years from now $50M might be nothing. Doesn't change what happened in 2010.