Milton is back, but will the DC only use 2 qbs on gameday?

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Maybe I'm wrong,

but I thought if you only have 2 qbs on the active roster and protect your 3rd qb on the ps that week, and elevated him on gameday, he could be the EM 3rd....

was I wrong?

So, are the DC taking a risk only bringing 2 on gameday? I guess they've done this before and i didn't notice.

thoughts?

The NFL Emergency Third-Quarterback Rule allows teams to dress a third quarterback on game day without using one of their standard active roster spots [0.13].

How the Rule Works
    • Roster Status: The emergency third quarterback must be on the team's regular 53-man roster, not a practice squad elevation.
    • Game-Day Activation: A team must have two active quarterbacks on its game-day active list to use the rule. The third quarterback can then serve as an extra, inactive-until-needed player.
    • Entry Triggers: The emergency quarterback can only enter the game if both the first-string and second-string quarterbacks are injured or disqualified (ejected)
 
Don’t know for certain, but I think you’d have to be elevated from the PS to be active on game day.

Not sure how often one player can go back and forth, then there’s the protection rules….

Someone here will know….

I think it ought to be a league mandate that three QBs are dressed. No one wants to see direct snapping. They are really chinsy with roster rules and teams try to milk even that. I don’t see how an extra guy to cover kicks is more valuable than having the insurance of a third QB.
 
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-emergency-third-quarterback-rule-questions-and-answers

In May, NFL clubs approved 2023 Bylaw Proposal 1A that permits each team to dress a 49th player as its Emergency Third Quarterback. The following procedures are in place for use of an Emergency Third Quarterback in a regular or postseason game.

Q: What is an Emergency Third Quarterback?

A: A club may designate a bona fide quarterback as an Inactive/Emergency Third Quarterback for a regular-season or postseason game. The player must be listed on the Gameday Administration Report that is submitted prior to or at the 90-minute meeting, subject to the following:

The Emergency Third Quarterback must be on the club's 53-player roster; the player cannot be an elevated Practice Squad player. The club's starting quarterback (QB1) and its backup quarterback (QB2) must also be on the club's 53-player roster.

A club must have two bona fide quarterbacks on its 47/48-player gameday active list to designate an Emergency Third Quarterback.

A club cannot designate an Emergency Third Quarterback if it has three or more bona fide quarterbacks on its 47/48-player gameday active list.

**Q: When is an Emergency Third Quarterback permitted to enter a game?
**
A: An Emergency Third Quarterback is permitted to enter a game only if the club's two active quarterbacks are unable to play either by disqualification or injury, including for example, if QB1 is unable to play and QB2 is being evaluated for an injury.

Q: After an Emergency Third Quarterback enters a game, are QB1 or QB2 permitted to return to that game?

A: Yes. If either QB1 or QB2 are evaluated for injury and cleared to return, either may re-enter the game.

Q: Are teams allowed to list players who play other positions as an Emergency Third Quarterback?

A: No. Players who play positions other than quarterback are prohibited from being listed as an Emergency Third Quarterback. For example, a tight end who wears jersey No. 80 is not eligible to be designated as an Emergency Third Quarterback under this rule; however, such tight end is permitted to play quarterback in a game if listed on the gameday 47/48-player active list (unless the Emergency Third quarterback is in the game).

Q: Before the game, are Emergency Third Quarterbacks permitted to participate in warmups?

A: Yes. A designated Emergency Third Quarterback may participate with the club's active players during the official team warm-up period.

Q: Can the Emergency Third Quarterback enter a game after coaches remove QB1 or QB2 for poor play (coach's decision)?

A: No. The Emergency Third Quarterback cannot enter the game due to the club benching QB1 or QB2.

Q: What if QB2 is unavailable for other reasons, such as an equipment issue?

A: The Emergency Third Quarterback cannot enter the game if QB1 is unavailable and QB2 has an equipment issue that requires him to come out of the game. If such a situation occurs, the club can use another player on the active list at quarterback or can take a timeout.

Q: Are clubs allowed to use this new rule to develop quarterbacks?

A: No. The Emergency Third Quarterback rule is not intended to be a developmental tool to provide a player game experience.

Q: What are the procedures when a club brings an Emergency Third Quarterback into a game?

A: To enter the game, the Emergency Third Quarterback must report to the referee; this is not required after every play, only when there is a situation that requires the Emergency Third Quarterback to enter or re-enter the game. An unsportsmanlike conduct penalty will be assessed if the Emergency Third Quarterback does not properly report to the referee upon entering the game. The referee will confirm with the head coach that QB1 and QB2 are currently unable to participate, but it is not the responsibility of the referee to determine the legitimacy of the injury or medical examination. The referee or a member of the officiating crew will notify the opposing head coach that the Emergency Third Quarterback has entered the game and the referee will make a public announcement to that effect.

Q: Are clubs allowed to play an Emergency Third Quarterback in non-traditional fashion (i.e., Wildcat formation)?

A: No. An Emergency Third Quarterback who enters a game must line up under center or in shotgun and must take the snap. No other player may take a snap if the Emergency Third Quarterback is in the game. An Emergency Third Quarterback is permitted to quick kick, but is not permitted to line up as the punter or play on special teams.

Q: What is the penalty for violations of these procedures?

A: An unsportsmanlike conduct penalty will be assessed if the club violates any aspects of the above procedures.

Q: Does the Emergency Third Quarterback have a radio in his helmet?

A: Each club may designate three offensive players to use Coach-to-Player (C2P) communication devices. It is the club's choice as to whether it designates its Emergency Third Quarterback as one of its three C2P designees. If a club elects to not list its Emergency Third Quarterback as one of its three offensive C2P designees and the Emergency Third Quarterback is required to enter the game, the club must communicate play calls using other methods (i.e., the quarterback going to the sideline, hand signals, substitutions, etc.).

Q: What are the procedures for either QB1 or QB2 returning to the game after a club uses its Emergency Third Quarterback?

A: If either QB1 or QB2 is cleared to return to play by the medical staff, such player must re-enter the game by reporting to the referee. At such time, the Emergency Third Quarterback must be removed from the game and is not permitted to continue to play quarterback or any other position. An unsportsmanlike conduct penalty will be assessed if QB1 or QB2 does not properly report to the referee upon re-entering the game. The referee or a member of the officiating crew will notify the opposing head coach that QB1 or QB2 has re-entered the game and the Emergency Third Quarterback has exited the game. The referee will make a public announcement that QB1 or QB2 has returned to the game and the Emergency Third Quarterback has exited the game.

Q: If either QB1 or QB2 re-enters but later can't continue due to disqualification or injury, is the Emergency Third Quarterback allowed to re-enter a game?

A: Yes. The Emergency Third Quarterback remains eligible to return to the game if another Emergency Third Quarterback situation arises.

Q: What is the definition of a bona fide quarterback?

A: For the purposes of the Emergency Third Quarterback rule, a bona fide quarterback is defined as a player who wears a jersey number authorized for a quarterback and (a) is an established quarterback (e.g., someone who has customarily played the position in past professional or college seasons); or (b) is a player who takes regular-season snaps only at quarterback during at least three consecutive weeks of practice, including any week the player would be listed as an Emergency Third Quarterback.
 
The NFLPA nixed a league-approved rule allowing an emergency third QB to come from the practice squad with unlimited call-ups.
Teams were informed that the players association vetoed the revised emergency third quarterback rule that would have allowed teams to elevate a bona fide QB from the practice squad an unlimited number of times, NFL Network Insider Tom Pelissero reported Monday, per a source informed of the situation.
The rule reverts to the 2023 parameters, which state that an emergency third QB must be on the 53-man roster or as one of two standard elevations per week. An elevated QB would have to be active for the game rather than in the emergency role. A player can be activated three times per season.
In March, the NFL announced that as part of its approved bylaws, it had approved a rule to expand the Standard Elevation rules to permit teams to elevate a “bona fide” QB an unlimited number of times from the practice squad to be the emergency QB.
The NFLPA viewed the rule as a sort of legal stashing, per Pelissero.
With the NFLPA rejecting the rule, certain clubs could elect to keep an additional QB on their initial 53-man rosters as we hit cutdown day.
 
NFL clubs approved 2023 Bylaw Proposal 1A that permits each team to dress a 49th player as its Emergency Third Quarterback. The following procedures are in place for use of an Emergency Third Quarterback in a regular or postseason game.

Q: What is an Emergency Third Quarterback?

A: A club may designate a bona fide quarterback as an Inactive/Emergency Third Quarterback for a regular-season or postseason game. The player must be listed on the Gameday Administration Report that is submitted prior to or at the 90-minute meeting, subject to the following:

The Emergency Third Quarterback must be on the club's 53-player roster; the player cannot be an elevated Practice Squad player. The club's starting quarterback (QB1) and its backup quarterback (QB2) must also be on the club's 53-player roster.
That last paragraph is all you really need to know.
 
If Prescott goes down, it won't matter.
I believe any specific situation would make them matter or not. For example, Dallas holds the lead late in the third quarter. Dak Prescott sustains a concussion, gets knocked out the game, and goes into concussion protocol. Sam Howell comes in, suffers an injury to his throwing shoulder, and is taken out as a precaution.

Both first- and second-string quarterbacks are sidelined for the game, but not long-term. Someone must finish the game. It would either be Joe Milton or another player designated by the coaches to fill in if both Prescott and Howell were unavailable.
 
So basically we're allowed to have 3 what's the issue, does that limit another position??
 
....Pickens throws a pretty good ball. Dont count him out.
 
I don't trust either of our backups beyond a one- or two-game stretch. Neither of them is close to Cooper Rush material.
 
I believe any specific situation would make them matter or not. For example, Dallas holds the lead late in the third quarter. Dak Prescott sustains a concussion, gets knocked out the game, and goes into concussion protocol. Sam Howell comes in, suffers an injury to his throwing shoulder, and is taken out as a precaution.

Both first- and second-string quarterbacks are sidelined for the game, but not long-term. Someone must finish the game. It would either be Joe Milton or another player designated by the coaches to fill in if both Prescott and Howell were unavailable.
Out of more than 270 standard regular season and postseason games played in a single NFL year, the scenario usually does not happen at all. Decades can pass between instances that are high-profile enough to completely exhaust a team's depth chart.
 
Since the rule went into effect the emergency 3rd qb has only been in a game once.

Unless it’s a playoff game I’m not sure it’s worth a roster spot.
 
Maybe I'm wrong,

but I thought if you only have 2 qbs on the active roster and protect your 3rd qb on the ps that week, and elevated him on gameday, he could be the EM 3rd....

was I wrong?

So, are the DC taking a risk only bringing 2 on gameday? I guess they've done this before and i didn't notice.

thoughts?

The NFL Emergency Third-Quarterback Rule allows teams to dress a third quarterback on game day without using one of their standard active roster spots [0.13].

How the Rule Works
    • Roster Status: The emergency third quarterback must be on the team's regular 53-man roster, not a practice squad elevation.
    • Game-Day Activation: A team must have two active quarterbacks on its game-day active list to use the rule. The third quarterback can then serve as an extra, inactive-until-needed player.
    • Entry Triggers: The emergency quarterback can only enter the game if both the first-string and second-string quarterbacks are injured or disqualified (ejected)
Yes, only 2. It would be a complete waste with the emergency QB rule.
 
Out of more than 270 standard regular season and postseason games played in a single NFL year, the scenario usually does not happen at all. Decades can pass between instances that are high-profile enough to completely exhaust a team's depth chart.
Wait. Please allow me to ask for confirmation. Are you stating there has never been an NFL game, when both the starting quarterback and backup quarterback, were knocked out of the same game?

EDIT: Or that the scenario rarely happens (which would mean it has occurred before)?
 
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