Milton is back, but will the DC only use 2 qbs on gameday?

[G2]

But it has happened and with our luck if we tried to go with only two dressed we would be the next

How many times has it happened? There's a bylaw in place already where you can pull up a QB.

 

[G2]

Teams are permitted an Active List of 45 players and an Inactive List of eight players for each regular-season and postseason game. Provided, that if a club has two quarterbacks on its 45-player Active List, a third quarterback from its Inactive List is permitted to dress for the game, but if he enters the game during the first three quarters, the other two quarterbacks are thereafter prohibited from playing.

 

[DallasEast]

It's extremely rare.

Okay. I understand your reply and agree the odds warrant not making the active roster adjustment.

That said, it is not an impossibility. An NFL team losing both its first- and second-string quarterbacks prompted the league to institute the rule that the OP is referencing. And the situation has occurred more than once in the league.

 

[G2]

Okay. I understand your reply and agree the odds warrant not making the active roster adjustment.

That said, it is not an impossibility. An NFL team losing both its first- and second-string quarterbacks prompted the league to institute the rule that is OP is referencing. And the situation has occurred more than once in the league.

See above

 

[DallasEast]

See above

Understood, but there are times when teams travel and do not take their third-string quarterback. Also, '...but if he enters the game during the first three quarters, the other two quarterbacks are thereafter prohibited from playing' is rendered moot regardless if it is the emergency quarterback or inactive quarterback is allowed to dress. The third-stringer would not touch the field unless the other two quarterbacks are out of the game.

 

[G2]

Understood, but there are times when teams travel and do not take their third-string quarterback. Also, '...but if he enters the game during the first three quarters, the other two quarterbacks are thereafter prohibited from playing' is rendered moot regardless if it is the emergency quarterback or inactive quarterback is allowed to dress. The third-stringer would not touch the field unless the other two quarterbacks are out of the game.

I guess the way I look at it is we're "all in" and I'd probably be Ok to trade for a couple for starters, even if next year's draft is light. Not to say they really are "all in," but I would be. So a season long roster spot would just depend on that.

 

[gtb1943]

How many times has it happened? There's a bylaw in place already where you can pull up a QB.

tell me what it costs to have a third QB there and dressed before whining about it

 

[gimmesix]

The Emergency Third Quarterback must be on the club's 53-player roster; the player cannot be an elevated Practice Squad player. The club's starting quarterback (QB1) and its backup quarterback (QB2) must also be on the club's 53-player roster.

Well, I guess that closes my loophole. I thought maybe we could bring up Milton, whose not on the 53, and make Howell, who is on the 53, the emergency quarterback. But it looks like all three have to be on the 53 in order for one to not count against the game-day roster.

 

[G2]

tell me what it costs to have a third QB there and dressed before whining about it

Asking a simple question isn't whining.

 

[Kwyn]

How many times has it happened? There's a bylaw in place already where you can pull up a QB.

Usung the current rules, it happened one’s. Deshaun Watson and his backup were injured during the game and Jamesis Winston, who was the designated emergency QB played

Before that it was really rare because if you used the emergency qb, your first two wbs couldn’t go back in the game at all.

The way it works now is if you carry a third QB on your 53 man roster, he can dress out on game day but not count against the Gameday limit of active players, which is 47/48 (you can dress 48 if 8 of them are OL. Yeah, it’s weird).

If you call up a Practice Squad QB during the week he *cannot* be the emergency QB but still counts against the 53 man roster. On game day, if you want to use him, he *must* be one of the active 47/48

 

[Kwyn]

Well, I guess that closes my loophole. I thought maybe we could bring up Milton, whose not on the 53, and make Howell, who is on the 53, the emergency quarterback. But it looks like all three have to be on the 53 in order for one to not count against the game-day roster.

That’s exactly why they did it. The NFLPA blocked it because teams would use it to stash QBs and pay them on the cheap.

You would never see a team keep three QBs and all those QBs who would have been paid active roster QB pay, even if it was the league minimum salary, would be put on the practice squad and miss out on a lot of money because practice squad player pay is strictly regulated and it’s much, much, lower than 53 man minimums

 

[fivetwos]

Lots of words as opposed to just having a certain number to dress, then a plus one as a third QB. Could have to be someone that’s known as a QB, no funny business, but I don’t know why the league itself and teams don’t want this.

If they are going to add yet another regular season game, they need to knock it off with expecting anything less than a village to get that done.

Jeez wasn’t it 53 back when they played 14 games?

I guess it’s the owners trying to squeak every last penny out of things and not pay extra active players. Ridiculous.

 

[blueblood70]

That last paragraph is all you really need to know.

yes i know i read that but seems to me i thought if you had only 2 active qbs elevating a 3rd could be the EM QB.

maybe i thought wrong...

 

[blueblood70]

Lots of words as opposed to just having a certain number to dress, then a plus one as a third QB. Could have to be someone that’s known as a QB, no funny business, but I don’t know why the league itself and teams don’t want this.

If they are going to add yet another regular season game, they need to knock it off with expecting anything less than a village to get that done.

Jeez wasn’t it 53 back when they played 14 games?

I guess it’s the owners trying to squeak every last penny out of things and not pay extra active players. Ridiculous.

break out the wingT, veer and wildcat should both go down..

who would be the WC QB?

whose the best throwing non-qb on this active roster? was lefty dez lol now who?

 

[blueblood70]

Wait. Please allow me to ask for confirmation. Are you stating there has never been an NFL game, when both the starting quarterback and backup quarterback, were knocked out of the same game?

EDIT: Or that the scenario rarely happens (which would mean it has occurred before)?

if both go down than what?

break out the wingT, veer, and/or wildcat?



who would be the WC QB?

whose the best throwing non-qb on this active roster? was lefty dez lol now who?

 

[DallasEast]

if both go down than what?

break out the wingT, veer, and/or wildcat?



who would be the WC QB?

whose the best throwing non-qb on this active roster? was lefty dez lol now who?

Coaches will have some alternative plan in case Joe Milton is not available. Perhaps their contingency will be similar to what the 49ers utilized in their 2022 postseason NFC Championship game versus the Eagles. Brock Purdy elbow was shot. Josh Johnson got concussed. Next man up was Christian McCaffrey...

 

[gtb1943]

Asking a simple question isn't whining.

sure sounds like it

 

[plymkr]

....Pickens throws a pretty good ball. Dont count him out.

I’ve heard he’s a good golfer too

 

[blueblood70]

Coaches will have some alternative plan in case Joe Milton is not available. Perhaps their contingency will be similar to what the 49ers utilized in their 2022 postseason NFC Championship game versus the Eagles. Brock Purdy elbow was shot. Josh Johnson got concussed. Next man up was Christian McCaffrey...

exactly but who is this player? very curious who is the best wildcat option we have?

 

[DandyDon52]

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-emergency-third-quarterback-rule-questions-and-answers

In May, NFL clubs approved 2023 Bylaw Proposal 1A that permits each team to dress a 49th player as its Emergency Third Quarterback. The following procedures are in place for use of an Emergency Third Quarterback in a regular or postseason game.

Q: What is an Emergency Third Quarterback?

A: A club may designate a bona fide quarterback as an Inactive/Emergency Third Quarterback for a regular-season or postseason game. The player must be listed on the Gameday Administration Report that is submitted prior to or at the 90-minute meeting, subject to the following:

The Emergency Third Quarterback must be on the club's 53-player roster; the player cannot be an elevated Practice Squad player. The club's starting quarterback (QB1) and its backup quarterback (QB2) must also be on the club's 53-player roster.

A club must have two bona fide quarterbacks on its 47/48-player gameday active list to designate an Emergency Third Quarterback.

A club cannot designate an Emergency Third Quarterback if it has three or more bona fide quarterbacks on its 47/48-player gameday active list.

**Q: When is an Emergency Third Quarterback permitted to enter a game?
**
A: An Emergency Third Quarterback is permitted to enter a game only if the club's two active quarterbacks are unable to play either by disqualification or injury, including for example, if QB1 is unable to play and QB2 is being evaluated for an injury.

Q: After an Emergency Third Quarterback enters a game, are QB1 or QB2 permitted to return to that game?

A: Yes. If either QB1 or QB2 are evaluated for injury and cleared to return, either may re-enter the game.

Q: Are teams allowed to list players who play other positions as an Emergency Third Quarterback?

A: No. Players who play positions other than quarterback are prohibited from being listed as an Emergency Third Quarterback. For example, a tight end who wears jersey No. 80 is not eligible to be designated as an Emergency Third Quarterback under this rule; however, such tight end is permitted to play quarterback in a game if listed on the gameday 47/48-player active list (unless the Emergency Third quarterback is in the game).

Q: Before the game, are Emergency Third Quarterbacks permitted to participate in warmups?

A: Yes. A designated Emergency Third Quarterback may participate with the club's active players during the official team warm-up period.

Q: Can the Emergency Third Quarterback enter a game after coaches remove QB1 or QB2 for poor play (coach's decision)?

A: No. The Emergency Third Quarterback cannot enter the game due to the club benching QB1 or QB2.

Q: What if QB2 is unavailable for other reasons, such as an equipment issue?

A: The Emergency Third Quarterback cannot enter the game if QB1 is unavailable and QB2 has an equipment issue that requires him to come out of the game. If such a situation occurs, the club can use another player on the active list at quarterback or can take a timeout.

Q: Are clubs allowed to use this new rule to develop quarterbacks?

A: No. The Emergency Third Quarterback rule is not intended to be a developmental tool to provide a player game experience.

Q: What are the procedures when a club brings an Emergency Third Quarterback into a game?

A: To enter the game, the Emergency Third Quarterback must report to the referee; this is not required after every play, only when there is a situation that requires the Emergency Third Quarterback to enter or re-enter the game. An unsportsmanlike conduct penalty will be assessed if the Emergency Third Quarterback does not properly report to the referee upon entering the game. The referee will confirm with the head coach that QB1 and QB2 are currently unable to participate, but it is not the responsibility of the referee to determine the legitimacy of the injury or medical examination. The referee or a member of the officiating crew will notify the opposing head coach that the Emergency Third Quarterback has entered the game and the referee will make a public announcement to that effect.

Q: Are clubs allowed to play an Emergency Third Quarterback in non-traditional fashion (i.e., Wildcat formation)?

A: No. An Emergency Third Quarterback who enters a game must line up under center or in shotgun and must take the snap. No other player may take a snap if the Emergency Third Quarterback is in the game. An Emergency Third Quarterback is permitted to quick kick, but is not permitted to line up as the punter or play on special teams.

Q: What is the penalty for violations of these procedures?

A: An unsportsmanlike conduct penalty will be assessed if the club violates any aspects of the above procedures.

Q: Does the Emergency Third Quarterback have a radio in his helmet?

A: Each club may designate three offensive players to use Coach-to-Player (C2P) communication devices. It is the club's choice as to whether it designates its Emergency Third Quarterback as one of its three C2P designees. If a club elects to not list its Emergency Third Quarterback as one of its three offensive C2P designees and the Emergency Third Quarterback is required to enter the game, the club must communicate play calls using other methods (i.e., the quarterback going to the sideline, hand signals, substitutions, etc.).

Q: What are the procedures for either QB1 or QB2 returning to the game after a club uses its Emergency Third Quarterback?

A: If either QB1 or QB2 is cleared to return to play by the medical staff, such player must re-enter the game by reporting to the referee. At such time, the Emergency Third Quarterback must be removed from the game and is not permitted to continue to play quarterback or any other position. An unsportsmanlike conduct penalty will be assessed if QB1 or QB2 does not properly report to the referee upon re-entering the game. The referee or a member of the officiating crew will notify the opposing head coach that QB1 or QB2 has re-entered the game and the Emergency Third Quarterback has exited the game. The referee will make a public announcement that QB1 or QB2 has returned to the game and the Emergency Third Quarterback has exited the game.

Q: If either QB1 or QB2 re-enters but later can't continue due to disqualification or injury, is the Emergency Third Quarterback allowed to re-enter a game?

A: Yes. The Emergency Third Quarterback remains eligible to return to the game if another Emergency Third Quarterback situation arises.

Q: What is the definition of a bona fide quarterback?

A: For the purposes of the Emergency Third Quarterback rule, a bona fide quarterback is defined as a player who wears a jersey number authorized for a quarterback and (a) is an established quarterback (e.g., someone who has customarily played the position in past professional or college seasons); or (b) is a player who takes regular-season snaps only at quarterback during at least three consecutive weeks of practice, including any week the player would be listed as an Emergency Third Quarterback.

Wow glad it is so simple !