Mizzou Football boycott

[Nightman]

The football teams says they won't play again until the University President is fired. Another grad student is committed to a hunger strike. Kids today are mixed up. The message should be that words can't stop us from achieving our goals. Hopefully it doesn't backfire on them.

They are willing to give up football to protest racism. Of course racism stinks and it hurts people deeply, but what does firing the University President solve. He isn't a racist, isn't responsible for the incidents on campus and can't prevent any more from occurring. No matter how many rallies you hold some people will do and say things that offend you. As college students you should learn to fight ignorance with knowledge. Overpower them with strength of character and maturity.

 

[Silver Surfer]

Acquiesce - next week it will be something else. Fail to respond - you're racist. The university is in a tough place.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

Someone yelled a racial slur and some drunken fool used feces to draw a swastika? Must be more to this.

 

[Nightman]

Someone yelled a racial slur and some drunken fool used feces to draw a swastika? Must be more to this.

Maybe being close to Ferguson has skewed their perspectives. I thought it had to be some kind of terrible assault or fire or something.

 

[Nightman]

Acquiesce - next week it will be something else. Fail to respond - you're racist. The university is in a tough place.

I can't believe he quit so quickly. This will not accomplish anything of substance, but the mob got their pound of flesh.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Missouri System President Tim Wolfe resigns amid campus protests, racial tension


University of Missouri System President Tim Wolfe has resigned.


Wolfe announced his decision during a Board of Curators meeting on the Univeristy of Missouri-Columbia campus on Monday.

“I’m resigning as president of the University of Missouri System,” Wolfe said while reading a statement. “My motivation in making this decision comes from love. I love MU, Columbia where I grew up, the state of Missouri. I thought, prayed about this decision. It’s the right thing to do.”

Wolfe had been at the center of protests on the Missouri campus as students, faculty and student-athletes called for his resignation following several racist events on campus and what some perceived as Wolfe's inaction.

read the rest ... http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...ampus-protests--racial-tension-164601915.html

 

[WoodysGirl]

Missouri System President Tim Wolfe resigns amid campus protests, racial tension


University of Missouri System President Tim Wolfe has resigned.


Wolfe announced his decision during a Board of Curators meeting on the Univeristy of Missouri-Columbia campus on Monday.

“I’m resigning as president of the University of Missouri System,” Wolfe said while reading a statement. “My motivation in making this decision comes from love. I love MU, Columbia where I grew up, the state of Missouri. I thought, prayed about this decision. It’s the right thing to do.”

Wolfe had been at the center of protests on the Missouri campus as students, faculty and student-athletes called for his resignation following several racist events on campus and what some perceived as Wolfe's inaction.

read the rest ... http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...ampus-protests--racial-tension-164601915.html

I find it interesting that he says, "Change comes from listening, learning, caring and conversation." And yet the very reason they called for his resignation is because he did none of that. Hate to see a man lose his job, but clearly his leadership wasn't addressing the students concerns.

 

[Nightman]

I find it interesting that he says, "Change comes from listening, learning, caring and conversation." And yet the very reason they called for his resignation is because he did none of that. Hate to see a man lose his job, but clearly his leadership wasn't addressing the students concerns.

The students didn't seem to want a conversation when they surrounded his car and blocked his exit.

I still fail to see how a University President is supposed to prevent a couple isolated incidents of racial slurs being used from happening again.

But if refuses to fight for himself I won't waste any more time on it either.

 

[WoodysGirl]

The students didn't seem to want a conversation when they surrounded his car and blocked his exit.

I still fail to see how a University President is supposed to prevent a couple isolated incidents of racial slurs being used from happening again.

But if refuses to fight for himself I won't waste any more time on it either.

I don't think it was a matter of him preventing such incidents. Based on what I'd been reading, it was how he addressed them when presented with the information about such incidents. He seemed to poo-poo them and not take them serious enough.

 

[Nightman]

I don't think it was a matter of him preventing such incidents. Based on what I'd been reading, it was how he addressed them when presented with the information about such incidents. He seemed to poo-poo them and not take them serious enough.

Maybe because those incidents don't rise to the level of intervention from a University President.

One of the demands was that he checked his "White Privilege". That means that no response will ever be enough.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

I find some of these incidents suspicious. A white guy walks up to 11 black guys and calls them the N word? Did he have a death wish?

 

[Silver Surfer]

He seemed to poo-poo them and not take them serious enough.

Freudian slip?

 

[Nightman]

Awkward timing on the Whiteout

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

My guess is if the President did not do anything wrong, if he took things seriously as he should have (not as seriously as others think he should have) and did his due diligence...He would not have resigned so easily.

When you got someone a hunger strike and the HC of the football team and other players decide they are will to not practice or play games for the university...something tells me things are a little worse than some would like to admit.

Now maybe he is completely innocent of any and all wrong doing, maybe he decided to be the big man and just quit his job to save the university football team, maybe the university said we don't care if he is right or wrong we want him gone to save our football team and PR view...but I doubt that happened.

Doubt the guy steps down for just the good of the school without having done something or not done enough.

But maybe we will find out the truth later down the road.

 

[Nightman]

My guess is if the President did not do anything wrong, if he took things seriously as he should have (not as seriously as others think he should have) and did his due diligence...He would not have resigned so easily.

When you got someone a hunger strike and the HC of the football team and other players decide they are will to not practice or play games for the university...something tells me things are a little worse than some would like to admit.

Now maybe he is completely innocent of any and all wrong doing, maybe he decided to be the big man and just quit his job to save the university football team, maybe the university said we don't care if he is right or wrong we want him gone to save our football team and PR view...but I doubt that happened.

Doubt the guy steps down for just the good of the school without having done something or not done enough.

But maybe we will find out the truth later down the road.

Students at Yale are protesting and calling for a professor to be fired because she wrote an email about Halloween costumes. I don't think the Missouri President did anything wrong and I'm not sure I even believe these racial incidents even happened as described. Even if they did, they don't rise to the level of hunger strikes or mass protests.

Students today are being influenced and manipulated by some nefarious forces. Professional agitators aren't concerned with justice, they have a cause that is more important to them than anything else and they don't care who or what they hurt to get their way.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Students at Yale are protesting and calling for a professor to be fired because she wrote an email about Halloween costumes. I don't think the Missouri President did anything wrong and I'm not sure I even believe these racial incidents even happened as described. Even if they did, they don't rise to the level of hunger strikes or mass protests.

Students today are being influenced and manipulated by some nefarious forces. Professional agitators aren't concerned with justice, they have a cause that is more important to them than anything else and they don't care who or what they hurt to get their way.

hahaha @ nefarious forces.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Someone yelled a racial slur and some drunken fool used feces to draw a swastika? Must be more to this.

There is more to it as a lot of it was about Graduate Assistant pay, planned parenthood related protests and then it suddenly turned racial.

When I had first heard about the football team protesting, I figured that Wolfe was likely very out-of-touch, overbearing and probably said some awful things. Then I read the timeline on the entire issue I continually asked myself 'yeah, but what did HE (Wolfe) do?'

And the racism complaints are all alleged.

It sucks that there is racism in this world and what happened to those people if it is true. But, they are demanding that whomever is President at Missouri should put a stop to some random person yelling racial slurs at somebody.

And I don't know what even the graduate assistants expect from Wolfe. He can't just get up and automatically pay GA's more money overnight. That is a Board of Trustees issue along with a budgetary issue.

This entire thing is BIZARRE.

There's a video on YouTube where a member of the student newspaper is taking pictures of the protest where they have signs 'no press allowed.' All he is doing is taking pictures and the protestors are yelling at him, telling him to leave and pushing him around. He stood his ground for a while and then got frustrated and left after repeatedly telling the protestors that he has a 1st amendment right to be there and take pictures on protestors on public property.. After he leaves, another press member is standing there with a camera and a woman yells at him to leave and he tells her no that he has the right to be there. The woman then yells for 'muscle' to remove the report.

The woman that was yelling at him?

A Communications Professor at the school.

Meanwhile, this must go over all of the protestors head that PRESS COVERAGE AND PROTESTS GO HAND IN HAND. If you're protesting, you WANT media coverage because nobody will care if there's no media coverage. The fact that these students don't understand freedom of press and do not want media coverage of their protests against the school is the greatest level of stupidity I have ever seen. It is enraging to see this level of stupidity. And I can't help but blame the parents, the grade school and high school teachers along with the professors for raising such idiots.

I literally would have never believed that this type of stupidity would ever exist on any college campus of so many students.






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[BrAinPaiNt]

They got the President to resign.

Now they need to simmer down and disband.

But that is hard for a group of protesters to do in many cases...they put so much time and effort into something that when they achieve the desired goal it is hard to just move on.

So they will probably continue to protest just to protest until they start getting tired of it.

I still maintain that the President did not step down for no reason. If his spine, or the schools, spine is that soft with him doing nothing wrong...that is on them, not the protesters.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

They got the President to resign.

Now they need to simmer down and disband.

But that is hard for a group of protesters to do in many cases...they put so much time and effort into something that when they achieve the desired goal it is hard to just move on.

So they will probably continue to protest just to protest until they start getting tired of it.

I still maintain that the President did not step down for no reason. If his spine, or the schools, spine is that soft with him doing nothing wrong...that is on them, not the protesters.

They have no intentions of disbanding.

Here's the timeline I read from the school's newspaper. Maybe you might interpret it differently, but I don't see where Wolfe did anything or was a problem:

http://www.themaneater.com/special-sections/mu-fall-2015/

And check out the video on YouTube under Concerned Student 1950 vs. the Media.

I had the same exact reasoning as you did....I couldn't believe that so many people were protesting and wanting the President to lose his job over nothing. But as I read the timeline and saw the video, I've come to the conclusion that they are putting the blame on Wolfe over nothing and it's a bunch of idiots that don't understand protests and have little idea as to why they are protesting. It's stunning to see this foolishness.






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[BrAinPaiNt]

They have no intentions of disbanding.

Here's the timeline I read from the school's newspaper. Maybe you might interpret it differently, but I don't see where Wolfe did anything or was a problem:

http://www.themaneater.com/special-sections/mu-fall-2015/

And check out the video on YouTube under Concerned Student 1950 vs. the Media.

I had the same exact reasoning as you did....I couldn't believe that so many people were protesting and wanting the President to lose his job over nothing. But as I read the timeline and saw the video, I've come to the conclusion that they are putting the blame on Wolfe over nothing and it's a bunch of idiots that don't understand protests and have little idea as to why they are protesting. It's stunning to see this foolishness.






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If your conclusion is correct than I would argue you missed end result...if he was innocent He or the University should have fought it and said no we are not firing him (if that was what they did) or he is not going to resign over the issue.

There were already leaks out that some of the coaches and players that did not want to stop playing. They might have missed one game but I doubt it would have lasted past that.

So again...If the guy resigned he is either guilty of something or he and the university are some spineless individuals.