MM and Dak contract?

[cowboyec]

if Big Mc wasn't sold on Dak...I don't think he comes here.

 

[cowboyed]

Everyone has a theory and their only "evidence" is he hasn't signed yet, which is actually only evidence that he hasn't signed yet. It does nothing to give credence to any of these theories.

There are only 4 people who really know why they haven't reached an agreement.

Common

I have said this before.

No head coach worth his salt would take a job without having input into the most important position on the team. McCarthy has to make the decision as to "which" QB he is going to tie his fortunes and future to.

Imagine if Prescott signed for 4 years. This would not allow McCarthy the opportunity to select his guy. This is the coach that didn't get along with Aaron Rodgers. So it's not out of the realm of possibility that during the hiring process he told the Jones's that he needed to coach one year with Prescott under the tag to make a determination on the future.

In the distant future we may find out that this is exactly how it went down.

Well Mike McCarthy is on record that he likes Dak and that he is a very good quarterback. Back in January likely Mike and the Cowboys were of the impression that Dak would be signed. Why wouldn't Mike be on board having Dak even for a franchised year, possibly, two? Since it isn't July 15, 4 pm eastern time something still may or may not get done.

It ain't over until the fat lady farts.

 

[cowboyblue22]

just seems odd that a team cant get a long term deal done with what they consider their franchise qb according to their front office

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

See the chiefs have signed there QB and DT Jones and we still have not done anything with Dak.

 

[Eanwen]

One more day, folks.

 

[csirl]

Dak was Garrett's pet cat. Everything changed when Garrett went. New coaching staff has the same doubts about Dak that most of the league has. MM doesnt want his tenure in Dallas to depend on whether or not Dak can up his game. The team recognises that the effort of bringing in MM will be wasted if Dak isnt the right fit for MM. The team simply cant risk signing Dak to long term contract - the safe option is the tag and seeing how 2020 works out.

 

[OmerV]

Hmmmm!!??? If MM was sold on Dak, would he be signed?? Maybe MM would rather have him on a one year deal and have a chance to evaluate his skill set and their relationship......

Obviously the head coach would have influence, but unless the head coach is the GM as well, he does not override all financial concerns and decisions.

 

[OmerV]

The highest paid player on the team is the 7th or 8th best player on the offense.

That's the conundrum.

Zack Martin may well be the best player on the offense, but the fact is OG's don't get paid what RB's and WR's do - or QB's. In any case, while I think it's probably fair to say Martin is better at his position, and maybe Smith as well, I think it's very debatable that 5-6 more players are better than Dak. Reasonable people could see it that way, but reasonable people could also put Dak at or near the top of that next 5-6 players. When it comes down to it, that's just a matter of personal opinion, and, of course, McCarthy and Jerry's opinion is what counts.

 

[cowboygo]

Hmmmm!!??? If MM was sold on Dak, would he be signed?? Maybe MM would rather have him on a one year deal and have a chance to evaluate his skill set and their relationship......

Dak is taking 31M on the cap right now. Its not like playing we're playing him pennies if he were to play on the tag. The tag is still a big investment, and shows MM and FO consider Dak to be a franchise tag worthy QB. Previous QBs to get the same treatment are Kirk Cousins and Drew Brees. He's closer to Cousins than Brees, but I firmly believe they view Dak as a franchise QB. If a team doesn't view you as a franchise QB, they ain't tagging you. Just ask Mariota and Winston. Heck, Trubisky didn't even receive a 5th year option. The anti-Dak crowd should be ecstatic if Dak gets to play on the tag. Only thing is, if he performs well, are we seriously going to credit his offensive pieces, or the QB?

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Honest question.......would they be auguring with Dak to sign a LONGER extension than the four years he reportedly wants if MM was not on board? Although OP question is a fair one, logic is missing if the reports we've heard are true. Hell, let's reverse it .........maybe Dak has some concerns whether or not ha can trust or get along with MM. It's no secret MM is an alpha whose not going pull any punches getting in the way of his 5-year goal to win a SB. This is why I said in another thread, maybe there's a gentlemen's agreement the one year tag is best everyone.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Dak is taking 31M on the cap right now. Its not like playing we're playing him pennies if he were to play on the tag. The tag is still a big investment, and shows MM and FO consider Dak to be a franchise tag worthy QB. Previous QBs to get the same treatment are Kirk Cousins and Drew Brees. He's closer to Cousins than Brees, but I firmly believe they view Dak as a franchise QB. If a team doesn't view you as a franchise QB, they ain't tagging you. Just ask Mariota and Winston. Heck, Trubisky didn't even receive a 5th year option. The anti-Dak crowd should be ecstatic if Dak gets to play on the tag. Only thing is, if he performs well, are we seriously going to credit his offensive pieces, or the QB?

Good post .....lot of truth here

 

[glimmerman]

Honest question.......would they be auguring with Dak to sign a LONGER extension than the four years he reportedly wants if MM was not on board? Although OP question is a fair one, logic is missing if the reports we've heard are true. Hell, let's reverse it .........maybe Dak has some concerns whether or not ha can trust or get along with MM. It's no secret MM is an alpha whose not going pull any punches getting in the way of his 5-year goal to win a SB. This is why I said in another thread, maybe there's a gentlemen's agreement the one year tag is best everyone.

I was saying that the other day. If they didn’t want him the argument would be over length, Dak would be wanting 10 years and us not making a offer of 36 a year.

 

[glimmerman]

I think we make one last shot. If we pay him 31 then don’t it come straight off the cap. But if we signed him we could move money around so we don’t pay 30+ off the cap this year. Give him a big signing bonus and spread it out. Is that a possibility. Or am I wrong as usual.

 

[glimmerman]

Although I just thought about something. The offer was on the table since last season wasn’t it. Before MM was hired. Or did we offer 36 a year after MM was hired.

If it was before we fired JG and Dak turned it down and we hire MM and now we haven’t talked to Dak since MM was hired. Hmmm.

 

[jaythecowboy]

I have said this before.

No head coach worth his salt would take a job without having input into the most important position on the team. McCarthy has to make the decision as to "which" QB he is going to tie his fortunes and future to.

Imagine if Prescott signed for 4 years. This would not allow McCarthy the opportunity to select his guy. This is the coach that didn't get along with Aaron Rodgers. So it's not out of the realm of possibility that during the hiring process he told the Jones's that he needed to coach one year with Prescott under the tag to make a determination on the future.

In the distant future we may find out that this is exactly how it went down.

If that is the case then the Cowboys shouldn't even have an offer on the table.

 

[OmerV]

I have said this before.

No head coach worth his salt would take a job without having input into the most important position on the team. McCarthy has to make the decision as to "which" QB he is going to tie his fortunes and future to.

Imagine if Prescott signed for 4 years. This would not allow McCarthy the opportunity to select his guy. This is the coach that didn't get along with Aaron Rodgers. So it's not out of the realm of possibility that during the hiring process he told the Jones's that he needed to coach one year with Prescott under the tag to make a determination on the future.

In the distant future we may find out that this is exactly how it went down.

Of course we can never be sure with media reports, but this thinking isn’t consistent with any of them. Not one I’ve seen has indicated the Cowboys have not been seeking a multi year deal, and most indicate the hang up is that the Cowboys want a longer term deal than Dak does.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I was saying that the other day. If they didn’t want him the argument would be over length, Dak would be wanting 10 years and us not making a offer of 36 a year.

Remember before MM got here, Jerry and Stephen could stop playing Daks' horn to the media. So much to several posters/fans voice concern about giving away nego leverage. Only one thing has changed since then........MM. To be clear, I'm not saying MM's not on board with Dak long-term coz we don't truly know but it 's not a reach to think he may be impacting this somehow.

 

[12+88=7]

Of course we can never be sure with media reports, but this thinking isn’t consistent with any of them. Not one I’ve seen has indicated the Cowboys have not been seeking a multi year deal, and most indicate the hang up is that the Cowboys want a longer term deal than Dak does.

I give you that, but that has been the standard line for two years and now it looks like no deal is getting done.

There is something under the surface which will come out in the future.

 

[Diehardblues]

This doesn't have anything to do with McCarthy. It's all about Dak and the Cowboys reaching an agreement.

Right

Mikey would have never been hired if he wasn’t all in with Dak at least in appearance with Jerry.

This is about Dak over valuing himself. Cause we know Daddy Idiot and Son usually pay up.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Remember that initial 12-hour interview and sleepover MM had with Jerry?
You can bet 10 hours of that interview was spent discussing Dak's inadequacies and the need for a new QB....hence Dalton.
You all be patient now as its only a matter of time till Part III of this drama unfolds with Dak's benching when he is unable to move the team again.
The 2 year flop of a new contract is only the starter course the main course will be served soonest....