Mo Claiborne Vs The Eagles

The penalties were bad, obviously, but I'm willing to shrug off the TD he allowed. The coverage was solid, it was just an incredible catch by Riley Cooper.
 
It's been a rough cople of weeks for him but up until the ATL game you could make a strong case for him being our best CB and he's only going to get better so in the long run i'm not even remotely worried about the little rough patch he seems to be inn right now
 
Bizwah;4840817 said:
I would imagine that Reid went to the officials before the game and made a point of Claiborne's aggressive play.

I only hope the officials don't begin to throw flag after flag on him. He's played physical with his hands on WRs all year.

Interesting stat on the Eagles-they're opponents get flagged for about four more penalties a game in Philly than when at home.
 
Does anyone know Mo's current QB rating against is? It was above 100 a few weeks ago -- I'm curious to see where it is at now.

Also, anybody know how PFF is currently ranking him vs other corners?
 
Yeagermeister;4841118 said:
I thought some of the calls were very ticky tack and shouldn't have been called.

This. The holding on Spencer's INT was very iffy. I've seen guys do far worse things inside of 5 yards. The TD I can't really blame him for either. It was a well thrown ball to a much bigger receiver. It was a tough game but if the worst game of your rookie year is a few 5 and 10 yard penalties then things could certainly be worse.
 
1. He is a roomkie
2. LSU teammate, Patrick Peterson, is still getting abused and this is his 2nd season.
3. Anyone still want Nnamdi Asomugha :lmao2:
 
hornitosmonster;4841150 said:
1. He is a roomkie
2. LSU teammate, Patrick Peterson, is still getting abused and this is his 2nd season.
3. Anyone still want Nnamdi Asomugha :lmao2:

:laugh2:

They always say "He's stealing" on espn or NFLNetwork...when they show a highlight of him.
 
He didnt do very well against the eagles but wasnt too bad of a job for a rookie.
 
Frozen700;4840615 said:
That was by far his roughest game of the season. If that night was the worst night in his rookie career. Then I would say he has had a hell of a Rookie start so far.

I seen many Rookie Corners get beat and abused. Not just one game, but over half a season.

He got called for like what, 3-6 penalties for being to physical or over excited, and gave up 1 td. not so bad

Hey it's going to happen, other Top corners like NA, get abused regularly.

I've been impressed with MO so far. Once he get's his confidence to stick at an all time high consistently, he will be dangerous.

Just like vs Atlanta, he got beat by Julio, and came back and battled. Almost had a potential game saving INT, if Roddy does not clearly PI him.

He had a bad game but those penalties would not have been called if the officials weren't biased or weren't as bad. How could they call the holding penalty on that deep route when the receiver pulled Clay down? He was trying to regain his balance and then they called it on him. Secondly, the penalty where he was called holding when Spencer intercepted the ball is bogus. He was well in the means of the 5 yard limit on touching the receiver and whatever he did didn't stop the receiver from running his route.
 
rocyaice;4841009 said:
What? Athleticism and being fast makes you a elite corner? Deangelo Hall fits those attributes lol.

name the top corners in the past decade, all the way back to deion.

revis, bailey, sanders, charles woodson, nnamdi.

all these are elite* corners. The also run faster than a 4.5 40.

people love to throw the word elite around this kid, but honestly he doesn't have elite* athleticism. He's 5'11" 185 lbs and runs a 4.54 40 time, and looks like it on the field.

oh ya that 4 wonderlic is another reason he probably won't be elite*...name a great NFL player that scored that terribly on the wonderlic.

like i said, he'll be good, but no way in hell is he worth the 6th pick for a position that doesn't win you football games
 
dallasfan4lizife;4841340 said:
name the top corners in the past decade, all the way back to deion.

revis, bailey, sanders, charles woodson, nnamdi.

all these are elite* corners. The also run faster than a 4.5 40.

people love to throw the word elite around this kid, but honestly he doesn't have elite* athleticism. He's 5'11" 185 lbs and runs a 4.54 40 time, and looks like it on the field.

oh ya that 4 wonderlic is another reason he probably won't be elite*...name a great NFL player that scored that terribly on the wonderlic.

like i said, he'll be good, but no way in hell is he worth the 6th pick for a position that doesn't win you football games

Didn't Revis have like a 10 or 11? Also, Fitzpatrick scored a 50, look how well he's doing.

Also, didn't Dez have a high 40? He looks insanely fast on the field.
 
and also, there were a couple of ticky tack holding calls there -- that's a call that often a vet doesn't have laid on them
 
Joshmil53;4841345 said:
Also, didn't Dez have a high 40? He looks insanely fast on the field.

Dez insanely fast?

He has great hands, however, he seem has never seem to me to any more than average.

When was the last time you saw Dez break away from a CB? Usually they are draped all over him.
 
dallasfan4lizife;4841340 said:
name the top corners in the past decade, all the way back to deion.

revis, bailey, sanders, charles woodson, nnamdi.

all these are elite* corners. The also run faster than a 4.5 40.

I'd rank the top 4 corners of the past 20 years or so to be:
  • Deion Sanders
  • Rod Woodson
  • Charles Woodson
  • Champ Bailey

Nnamdi, while good, is a step below those guys. Revis was all world for a short while, but has been injured the last two seasons and you have to wonder if he can sustain a long productive career.

I do agree that there is an argument to be made that it's unreasonable to expect Mo Claiborne to be as good as those 4 guys -- all of them were absolutely incredible athletes.

I don't know anyone would call Mo an incredible athlete -- his defining characteristic in college was incredible ball skills.

I think Mo is going to good -- probably roughly equivalent to Joe Hayden the 1st overall corner drafted in 2010.
 
dallasfan4lizife;4841340 said:
name the top corners in the past decade, all the way back to deion.

revis, bailey, sanders, charles woodson, nnamdi.

all these are elite* corners. The also run faster than a 4.5 40.

people love to throw the word elite around this kid, but honestly he doesn't have elite* athleticism. He's 5'11" 185 lbs and runs a 4.54 40 time, and looks like it on the field.

oh ya that 4 wonderlic is another reason he probably won't be elite*...name a great NFL player that scored that terribly on the wonderlic.

like i said, he'll be good, but no way in hell is he worth the 6th pick for a position that doesn't win you football games

He ran a 4.48 that's hardly pedestrian.. Besides, there are plenty of examples of players that play faster than their 40 times. Charles Woodson ran a 4.46 by the way.

Clairborne blew off the wonderlic, you can tell he's not an idiot when he speaks..

He was widely considered the best defensive player in the draft, of course he was worth the 6th pick.

Of course he's going to struggle, most rookie corners do. However, he's played well so far and will get better with time.
 
Even though he struggled in coverage in the game, I thought he made 2 or 3 really nice open field tackles.
 
Texan_Eph89;4841740 said:
Clairborne blew off the wonderlic, you can tell he's not an idiot when he speaks..

True. He clearly is not stupid.

However, I think it is a monumental failure of judgement to blow off the Wonderlic. It didn't hurt him but things like that can drop guys. If that put off a single team drafting 1-5 then he lost some money by doing so
 

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