MOCK w/ TRADE UP for Mendenhall

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If we get Pacman, how's this for a mock???
It has trades, but this COULD happen, not saying it will, but the trade value charts workout perfect for both trades, just a matter of getting them to trade us.
But anyhow, this is for fun and to see WHAT IF we move up?

Trade our #22 pick and our 2nd rounder to move up to #13 and select

R.B. Rashard Mendenhall

#28 W.R. Limas Sweed
3rd Rd: C.B. Zach Bowman
4th Rd: S.S./F.S. Bobbie Williams
5th Rd: C.B. Pacman Jones
6th Rd: C./G. Fernand Velasco
7th Rd: G. Jordan Grimes

We'd add to our offense

R.B. Rashard Mendenhall
W.R. Limas Sweed
C./G. Fernand Velasco to backup center
G. Jordan Grimes to backup and maybe replace Kosier in another year

And we'd add these guys to our defense

C.B. Pacman Jones
C.B. Zach Bowman
F.S./S.S. Bobbie Williams

Thoughts???????
Interesting that our 2nd rounder could move us into the top 13 and STILL have our #28 pick also for future mock trade ups for someone else, I figure Mendenhall would be worth it and we could still get a good W.R. to pair with him to add to our already explosive offense in Sweed/Hardy/Thomas at the 28 spot!
 

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not realistic at all. with all the depth at rb in this draft i doubt we move up to take a rb not named McFadden. #2 were not gonna draft a wr in the 1st round. frankly, i doubt we even draft a wr at all.
 

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Rampage;2016475 said:
not realistic at all. with all the depth at rb in this draft i doubt we move up to take a rb not named McFadden. #2 were not gonna draft a wr in the 1st round. frankly, i doubt we even draft a wr at all.

I think it's VERY REALISTIC if we get Pacman!
Some people thik Mendenhall will be a better pro, and I could see Jerry making a move for him.

Secondly, you say we're not gonna draft a W.R. in round 1, and you doubt we draft one at all?:confused:
Have you even bothered to hear Jerry Jones ALL OFF-SEASON?????????
We were close to a deal and had a deal in place for Javon Walker, and Jerry has said his #1 off season PRIORITY is to get a W.R. opposite T.O., so not only is it likely we draft a W.R. in round 1, it's almost a GIVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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ThatsmyQB;2016479 said:
I think it's VERY REALISTIC if we get Pacman!
Some people thik Mendenhall will be a better pro, and I could see Jerry making a move for him.

Secondly, you say we're not gonna draft a W.R. in round 1, and you doubt we draft one at all?:confused:
Have you even bothered to hear Jerry Jones ALL OFF-SEASON?????????
We were close to a deal and had a deal in place for Javon Walker, and Jerry has said his #1 off season PRIORITY is to get a W.R. opposite T.O., so not only is it likely we draft a W.R. in round 1, it's almost a GIVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he said he wants a vet wr. some rookie wr isn't gonna just come in and man the #2 wr spot. we won't take one in the 1st round just watch.
 

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Rampage;2016487 said:
he said he wants a vet wr. some rookie wr isn't gonna just come in and man the #2 wr spot. we won't take one in the 1st round just watch.

He said he WILL GET SOMEONE opposite T.O., that's his OFF SEASON GOAL, and if a trade can't be worked out for a VET, he'll have no choice but to grab one in round 1, just watch is right, I'll bet my LIFE that we ue one of our 1st round picks to get a W.R., by trade or by draft pick, we're using one of our 1st rounders on a W.R., MARK MY WORDS!
 

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Then when Pacman makes it rain in the middle of the season and Henry get's his yearly injury we are starting Ball and our nickleback is a mid round rookie
 

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Tobal;2016546 said:
Then when Pacman makes it rain in the middle of the season and Henry get's his yearly injury we are starting Ball and our nickleback is a mid round rookie

That's a LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS!

Pacman has sat out a year and he knows this is his LAST CHANCE and knowshe can lose MULTI MILLIONS of dollars and his NFL career, I'd say the chances he keeps his nose clean are about 99%.

So with a trio of C.B.'s in Newman/Pacman/Henry, you'd want to use a 1st rounder on a C.B. on top of that?
Is that waht you're saying?
 

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Why trade up for Mendenhall when we can get Jonathan Stewart, who is just as good in my opinion (despite the injury) at 22, or someone like Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, or Kevin Smith in round 2?
 

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MCowboys;2016612 said:
Why trade up for Mendenhall when we can get Jonathan Stewart, who is just as good in my opinion (despite the injury) at 22, or someone like Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, or Kevin Smith in round 2?


Cause Mendenhall is a lot better than all the R.B.'s you've mentioned, thus the reaosn he's a top 15 pick and the oither mentioned are late 1st to mid 2nd rounders!
 

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ThatsmyQB;2016647 said:
Cause Mendenhall is a lot better than all the R.B.'s you've mentioned, thus the reaosn he's a top 15 pick and the oither mentioned are late 1st to mid 2nd rounders!

Mendenhall wasn't rated much differently than Stewart until he got his surgery. I really don't think we should throw away our 2nd rounder to trade up for a slightly better player to be our 2nd running-back.
 

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MCowboys;2016660 said:
Mendenhall wasn't rated much differently than Stewart until he got his surgery. I really don't think we should throw away our 2nd rounder to trade up for a slightly better player to be our 2nd running-back.

That's fine, just throwing it out there as a possibility!
Is there anyone who could drop to #13 that you WOULD give up our 2nd to move up for?
Other then Dmac!
If Glenn Dorsey somehow falls cause of the runors about his knees or what not, I'd move up for him to plus him in at L.D.E. to take over for Spears and give us a playmaker on the D-line.
 

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I wouldn't trade up in this draft given our needs. Don't try to get cute. Just take the RB rated best on your board if he is above the other players that you need.

I'd be fine waiting until the 3rd round for a RB if we get 3 great players before that in the first 2 rounds.
 

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ThatsmyQB;2016675 said:
That's fine, just throwing it out there as a possibility!
Is there anyone who could drop to #13 that you WOULD give up our 2nd to move up for?
Other then Dmac!
If Glenn Dorsey somehow falls cause of the runors about his knees or what not, I'd move up for him to plus him in at L.D.E. to take over for Spears and give us a playmaker on the D-line.

If, somehow someone like Dorsey, Ellis, Chris Long, or Jake Long were to fall to 13, I would really consider trading up. Other than that, I'd stay at 22 or trade down.

I like Mendenhall, but I was just saying I don't see him as that much better than Stewart. If you feel he is, then it makes sense to trade up. I wasn't saying you were really wrong, just that I wouldn't do it.
 

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ThatsmyQB;2016500 said:
He said he WILL GET SOMEONE opposite T.O., that's his OFF SEASON GOAL, and if a trade can't be worked out for a VET, he'll have no choice but to grab one in round 1, just watch is right, I'll bet my LIFE that we ue one of our 1st round picks to get a W.R., by trade or by draft pick, we're using one of our 1st rounders on a W.R., MARK MY WORDS!


I can't remember who was interviewing Jerry when the trading for a vet WR came up, but he did say that his WOW player opposite T.O. would probably not come from the draft (especially with the 22 0r 28 picks). The interview should still be on one of the pages in the Daily Zone.

So, your assumption that T.O's complimentary player is coming in round one could be a bit flawed. It could also be a bit of pre-draft posturing by Jones. It's tough to say, but it certainly isn't a foregone conclusion that a WR will be drafted in the first round.
 

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ThatsmyQB;2016500 said:
He said he WILL GET SOMEONE opposite T.O., that's his OFF SEASON GOAL, and if a trade can't be worked out for a VET, he'll have no choice but to grab one in round 1, just watch is right, I'll bet my LIFE that we ue one of our 1st round picks to get a W.R., by trade or by draft pick, we're using one of our 1st rounders on a W.R., MARK MY WORDS![/quote]
i'll remember that.
 

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Big Dakota;2008045 said:
Shaking trees, but can 'Boys avoid nuts?

By RANDY GALLOWAY
Star-Telegram staff writer


Pacman Jones? Hold on to your stripper's pole. No doubt, the make-it-rain man is at least on the Cowboys radar screen.
But there might be more. Don't rule out even the long-shot chance of acquiring the lovable Chad Johnson.
Depending on your point of view, the Cowboys are about to become very aggressive or very stupid in attempting to boost the talent level at "need" positions.
True story:
In what had been the quietness of a Cowboys' off-season, with the college draft still a month away, I had this joking comment last week for the owner/general manager:
"So far, you people are boring me."
Jerry Jones laughed.
Media-wise, Jones had taken much abuse over the years, but for those of us who have been the most critical, we know it's difficult to actually insult the man.
Describe Jerry, however, as boring, and you might have pushed that "insult" button.
"I can assure everyone," Jones answered [and this was on Thursday], "our pursuit of talent is far from over."
Within a few hours of that comment, I heard a gushing NFL Network reporter say he was breaking news the Cowboys were negotiating a trade with the Titans for Pacman.
Jones had mentioned no such name to me in our conservation. It's tampering to discuss a player under contract to another team.
But Jerry did say, "if you look at what our obvious needs are, that's where you will find us heavily involved. It may seem like a quiet off-season, but, believe me, that's only on the surface."
Cornerback? That's a need. And the Pacman rumors have been floating for several weeks. Even before last week's news, Michael Irvin, now the radio man, had already booked Pacman as a guest for Tuesday's show on ESPN 103.3.
Not by phone, either. The Pac Rat is coming to town at Irvin's request.
Opinions will fly on whether it's a wise move for the Cowboys to become involved with this kind of known trouble. What is it now for the Rain Man, five arrests, or six, in three years?
But more on Pacman at a later date.
I was more interested in what Jones had to say in several other areas.
Such as, this question:
What is the organization's No. 1 priority between now and training camp?
"Without question, creating a threat on the other side of the ball from [Eldorado] Owens," said Jerry.
Just what I wanted to hear. Many others haven't agreed, but to me, finding another receiver, or two, topped any list of needs.
"I've ruled out nothing when it comes to those options, or possible options," said Jerry.
That statement is backed by another NFL voice who said Friday, "within the league, you hear the Cowboys are attempting, or will attempt, to work a trade for Chad Johnson, for Roy Williams, for maybe others."
Hmmmmm...
The Bengals have been adamant they won't trade Johnson, and the same for the Lions with Roy Williams.
But Chad is Cincinnati's nut case, and he's publicly pushing to be dealt. On a national TV show last week, Johnson mentioned the Cowboys as a team he'd liked to play for, and if that deal were made, he said he'd immediately have to make a choice about "which finger to put it on." The Super Bowl ring, of course.
Chad must have missed the news -- the Cowboys haven't won a playoff game in 11 years.
Again, the Bengals say Johnson will remain. If not, then the price tag would be huge. But Chad's agent is a certain Drew Rosenhaus, the same agent for Eldorado, and a guy who knows how to force teams to make deals.
By the way, another receiver client of Rosenhaus would be Anquan Boldin of the Cardinals, who is both lowly paid and not exactly pleased about the massive new dollars the team gave fellow receiver Larry Fitzgerald.
I repeat, Jerry mentioned no names, but did stress not to rule out any possible deal when it comes to a wide receiver.
The Cowboys thought they had an agreement with free-agent receiver Javon Walker, who had actually already moved to Irving. But then the Raiders started throwing around crazy money. Walker, with knee injury issues, did the sensible thing and took Al Davis' $16 million guaranteed, about $14 million above market value.
One receiver Jones did mention, without hesitation, was none other than Terry Glenn. Speaking of knee issues.
"I would urge you not to rule out Terry," he said. "He will be here, he will on the roster, and don't be surprised if he's healthy. That's all I will say. Don't be surprised."
But Jerry did admit the unknown with Glenn's health means the team will move on with off-season plans "as if we didn't have him."
One last thing on receivers. Finding one in the draft at the end of the first round, where the Cowboys' have two picks, has become remote.
"Don't think so," was the Jones comment.

Otherwise, the Pacman trade could become reality, meaning Jones will be severely bashed for having lost touch with reality.
But when it comes to a major trade for a receiver, Jerry says don't rule out anything, which means he's at least in touch with what his team needs.
rgalloway@star-telegram.com
Randy Galloway, 817-390-7760

skinsscalper;2016717 said:
I can't remember who was interviewing Jerry when the trading for a vet WR came up, but he did say that his WOW player opposite T.O. would probably not come from the draft (especially with the 22 0r 28 picks). The interview should still be on one of the pages in the Daily Zone.

So, your assumption that T.O's complimentary player is coming in round one could be a bit flawed. It could also be a bit of pre-draft posturing by Jones. It's tough to say, but it certainly isn't a foregone conclusion that a WR will be drafted in the first round.

I found the interview. The statement is in bold.
 

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I would use our 2nd to trade up for:

Mcfadden
Jake Long
Dorsey

IF we acquired pacman, AND we used our other pick to add Roy Willams from detroit or one of the top five corners or Kenny Phillips.

I know it would be highly unlikely that any of those guys would drop to #13... but they would be worth giving up our 2nd.
 

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ThatsmyQB;2016589 said:
That's a LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS!

Pacman has sat out a year and he knows this is his LAST CHANCE and knowshe can lose MULTI MILLIONS of dollars and his NFL career, I'd say the chances he keeps his nose clean are about 99%.


So with a trio of C.B.'s in Newman/Pacman/Henry, you'd want to use a 1st rounder on a C.B. on top of that?
Is that waht you're saying?

I also think your statement "the chances he keeps his nose clean are about 99%, is a pretty huge assumption as well.
 
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