Monte Kiffen -- please NO!

Reverend Conehead

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We've just invested heavily in premiere cornerbacks. Why the @#$% would we then use the Tampa 2, which relies more on safeties? Makes no sense.
 
Its just typical reactionary Jerry. We got pasted by a few Tampa 2 teams, and he becomes convinced its the solution to what ails.
 
Reverend Conehead;4957303 said:
We've just invested heavily in premiere cornerbacks. Why the @#$% would we then use the Tampa 2, which relies more on safeties? Makes no sense.

Bears have Tillman and Jennings, who are the bears safeties again ?
 
Reverend Conehead;4957303 said:
We've just invested heavily in premiere cornerbacks. Why the @#$% would we then use the Tampa 2, which relies more on safeties? Makes no sense.

I find it hard to think that these coaches for years and years haven't thought about this already.
 
they want to move Carr to safety

what i want to know is what happens to Sean Lee, he's not exactly the fastest guy in the world
 
Reverend Conehead;4957303 said:
We've just invested heavily in premiere cornerbacks. Why the @#$% would we then use the Tampa 2, which relies more on safeties? Makes no sense.

That's a good point I hadn't thought of. Tampa 2 has the corners primarily playing zone.

As we saw this year, that's not where Carr and Claiborne are. Ideally, they are playing man to man.
 
Reverend Conehead;4957303 said:
We've just invested heavily in premiere cornerbacks. Why the @#$% would we then use the Tampa 2, which relies more on safeties? Makes no sense.

I don't understand isn't Carr going to still be able to make plays? what does the Tampa 2 have to do with CB play?
 
dwarecwby311;4957313 said:
they want to move Carr to safety

I suspect that would make Carr one of the top 5 paid safeties in the entire NFL.

I thought based on PFF data that Carr was one of the worst corners in the NFL against the run this year. Do you think he'd be better playing safety?
 
Kiffin had some pretty darn good corners.

People talk about Tampa 2 corners as guys you can get by with (ok coverage, good tacklers). That doesn't mean a good cover guy isn't better for the D.
 
triplets92;4957317 said:
I don't understand isn't Carr going to still be able to make plays? what does the Tampa 2 have to do with CB play?

It puts them more in zone than man to man while Carr excels most at man.
 
This is very difficult for me to say and I will probably be called a bandwagon fan. But anyone who knows me knows that is not true. If Jerry Jones hires this 72 year old relic to be our DC I will not watch another game until Jerry Jones either retires or passes away. :mad:
 
Nowhere does it say good corners are useless in a Tampa 2 defense. This is getting WAY too much play.

Chicago has excellent corners, and Tampa had darn good ones when they won the Super Bowl, too.
 
triplets92;4957317 said:
I don't understand isn't Carr going to still be able to make plays? what does the Tampa 2 have to do with CB play?

Ronde Barber seemed to make a ton of plays in that D.

Five time first or 2nd team all pro in that D.
 
Reverend Conehead;4957329 said:
It puts them more in zone than man to man while Carr excels most at man.

Carr played a lot zone when he was in Kansas City so I don't think that would be a problem.
 
Pessimist_cowboy;4957310 said:
Bears have Tillman and Jennings, who are the bears safeties again ?

Tillman and Jennings are perfect tampa-2 corner backs the both tackle well and go for the strip. Do you really think Carr and Claiborne can do that?

O btw Chris conte and major wright>>>>>our safeties

I played tampa 2 during my high school career and i can tell you right now if your corners and safeties cant tackle you are going to have a long day.
 
AbeBeta;4957326 said:
That doesn't mean a good cover guy isn't better for the D.

I think the point is more that you probably wouldn't pay Carr $50M to play zone in this defense or move up in the draft to get Mo.

Doesn't mean having them is bad for the D, just not ideal use of resources.
 
Ronde Barber and Dwight Smith were Tampa's corners when they won the Super Bowl in Kiffen's defense.

Both were excellent.
 
perrykemp;4957319 said:
I suspect that would make Carr one of the top 5 paid safeties in the entire NFL.

I thought based on PFF data that Carr was one of the worst corners in the NFL against the run this year. Do you think he'd be better playing safety?

just saying what i heard from Matt Berry and Newy Scruggs on the local radio here in Austin. i know mediots and blah blah but when 2 of them are saying the same thing, you start to wonder.
 

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