More cheating you decide

[CowboyChris]

 

[EST_1986]

I doubt it, depends on when the whistle was blow to get the next play in gear

 

[Longboysfan]

They control the clocks also.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

not sure what I'm looking at, the play clock seemed to be ticking properly. Is he referring to the game clock stopping with the play going out of bounds but not being inside the 5 min mark of a half? With the Pats up by 14, I would think they'd prefer seconds to tick off so not getting how this benefits them.

 

[CowboyChris]

the play ends when Gronk goes out of bounds, the play clock gets reset to 40 secs and begins ticking down.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

the play ends when Gronk goes out of bounds, the play clock gets reset to 40 secs and begins ticking down.

ah.....should've watch the video all the way through. Thought when the guy said "right there" was when something happened - 15 secs were added to play clock.....that is suspect

 

[big dog cowboy]

If it involves NE I'm pretty sure I know how this thread is going to go.

 

[Nightman]

It looks like Brady convinced the refs to reset the play clock to 25 secs after a long incompletion downfield to Gronk.

The 40 sec started properly at the end of the 2nd down play but it took a little longer for Gronk to get back to the huddle.

There didn't appear to be any other reason to reset the clock and the Pats caught a tiny break.

They end up missing on that 3rd down and punted and since the game clock wasn't running, no harm no foul.

 

[Rogah]

You know, it's funny someone mentioned this because I was thinking that if the game-clock play-clock clustermess we saw at AT&T Stadium Sunday night took place in Gillette, it would make national headlines.

But when it happens in any other stadium, it's just a routine miscommunication and no one thinks twice about it.

 

[muck4doo]

You know, it's funny someone mentioned this because I was thinking that if the game-clock play-clock clustermess we saw at AT&T Stadium Sunday night took place in Gillette, it would make national headlines.

But when it happens in any other stadium, it's just a routine miscommunication and no one thinks twice about it.

Yes, we know, you and Tom are such victims.

 

[Idgit]

The Pats* have worked very hard to deserve their reputation. This is the stuff that comes with that. They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

 

[FootballFan1]

To me, this is all becoming rather a joke. Let us see, it rained in Foxboro, yep that was the Pats fault, oh and it rained harder on the Pittsburgh side of the field. At what point does this all become rather ridiculous.

If Dallas becomes a dynasty again, when you were most loved and hated, THEN you will see the other side of the coin. The media, why do we even listen?

Give it a break already.

 

[LandryFan]

The Pats* have worked very hard to deserve their reputation. This is the stuff that comes with that. They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Especially when there is no doubt.

 

[LandryFan]

To me, this is all becoming rather a joke. Let us see, it rained in Foxboro, yep that was the Pats fault, oh and it rained harder on the Pittsburgh side of the field. At what point does this all become rather ridiculous.

If Dallas becomes a dynasty again, when you were most loved and hated, THEN you will see the other side of the coin. The media, why do we even listen?

Give it a break already.

Maybe people will give it a break when pats fans stop coming to a Cowboys fan site and crying incessantly about how their team is really the victim in all of this. And maybe people will give it a break when the pats quit cheating. No...Pats fans need to go to their own site and cry/console one another about how they are being victimized. The pats cheat, so any time something questionable arises, they will be looked at sideways, and deservedly so.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Maybe people will give it a break when pats fans stop coming to a Cowboys fan site and crying incessantly about how their team is really the victim in all of this. And maybe people will give it a break when the pats quit cheating. No...Pats fans need to go to their own site and cry/console one another about how they are being victimized. The pats cheat, so any time something questionable arises, they will be looked at sideways, and deservedly so.

yep.

 

[LandryFan]

You know, it's funny someone mentioned this because I was thinking that if the game-clock play-clock clustermess we saw at AT&T Stadium Sunday night took place in Gillette, it would make national headlines.

But when it happens in any other stadium, it's just a routine miscommunication and no one thinks twice about it.

Except that the issue at ATT directly involved the ref...he knew the situation and was communicating to correct it. By all appearances in the NE game, the ref was not involved and the clock operator added time based on Brady's direction. Big difference. I sure would like to hear the NFL's explanation of what happened. There may be more to it than appeared in that clip above, but going off of just the clip, it looks shady. I know no pats fan will admit to anything even remotely questionable, but it is what it is.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/YUtj6Sw

 

[Rogah]

The Pats* have worked very hard to deserve their reputation. This is the stuff that comes with that. They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

If you don't want to give benefit of the doubt, that's fine, but you should at least have something beyond things we've all seen countless times in countless football games.

Tom Brady asked the ref to reset the play clock. I have seen this happen countless times. Sometimes the ref grants the request, sometimes he doesn't.

In this case, the ref granted the request. The honest truth is I don't know why, but unless the ref is "in on it," how can it be cheating?

My theory is that it is simply a matter of the refs not getting the ball spotted quickly (because the previous play was a deep pass out of bounds and it was pouring rain so the balls are kept as reasonably dry as possible). If there is a delay in spotting the ball, they are supposed to reset the clock to 25.

 

[Rogah]

Except that the issue at ATT directly involved the ref...he knew the situation and was communicating to correct it. By all appearances in the NE game, the ref was not involved and the clock operator added time based on Brady's direction.

What are you talking about?!? Brady's hand motion is him asking the referee to reset the play clock. Obviously the request was granted.

Big difference. I sure would like to hear the NFL's explanation of what happened. There may be more to it than appeared in that clip above, but going off of just the clip, it looks shady. I know no pats fan will admit to anything even remotely questionable, but it is what it is.

What happened in AT&T was much shadier than anything in Gillette. In Gillette, the referee reset the play clock, probably because of a delay in spotting the ball. In Arlington, it looked like the AT&T scoreboard operator was trying to pull a fast one and got caught red handed by the ref, who had to correct him a whole bunch of times.

Do I think the AT&T scoreboard guy was cheating? Of course not. It was the type of honest miscommunication we see all the time in football. Just like seeing a QB ask the ref to reset the play clock and just like seeing headsets malfunction are things we see all the time in football.

 

[LandryFan]

What are you talking about?!? Brady's hand motion is him asking the referee to reset the play clock. Obviously the request was granted.
What happened in AT&T was much shadier than anything in Gillette. In Gillette, the referee reset the play clock, probably because of a delay in spotting the ball. In Arlington, it looked like the AT&T scoreboard operator was trying to pull a fast one and got caught red handed by the ref, who had to correct him a whole bunch of times.

Do I think the AT&T scoreboard guy was cheating? Of course not. It was the type of honest miscommunication we see all the time in football. Just like seeing a QB ask the ref to reset the play clock and just like seeing headsets malfunction are things we see all the time in football.

You simply crack me up...