More than one edge rusher

[Killerinstinct]

Many seem to think we will be drafting more than one edge rusher. I don't see that happening due to the roster size and the number of DE's we already have.

There are a couple of scenarios where I do see it becoming possible.

1. If Demontre Moore is not in the plans. It is possible they are going to give him a look but are of the mind that he needs to blow them away to earn a spot. I think this is highly doubtful.

2. We draft a player that fills multiple needs creating an extra roster spot. This I think could happen. There are numerous players in this draft that could fill multiple needs.

Peppers - SS/KR/Dunbars old role. He could fill 3 needs. Could even be on the WR depth chart as a guy that lines up there a few times a game. Could even be in the LB depth chart but that would take him away from SS so I won't go there. This would allow the team to let Lucky and Morris go. Then extra roster spots are created and we could draft two edge rushers.

Samuel - WR/KR/RB similar to Peppers. Morris and Lucky could both be replaced. Even Butlers spot could be in jeopardy but I think they would keep him for now.

Mccaffrey - also RB/WR/KR - multiple roles filled.

Several other WR's/RB's/CB's

There are many at these positions that could fill dual roles. Their immediate positions plus KR. There are some DB's that could be CB/S/KR as well.

This is how we carry an extra DE.

To take it a step further Peppers, Samuel or Mccaffrey give you the opportunity to not only carry an extra DE but you could carry an extra player at another position too. Want to draft a TE without giving up on Swaim/Hanna/Rico? This is the way to do it. Want to add another offensive lineman without giving up on those we already have? Carry an extra DT? Maybe you want to keep Morris at RB but still want a player to replace Dunbars role. Maybe you draft a QB and don't want to risk him on the practice squad.

Having a Peppers, Samuel, Mccaffrey type of player allows you to carry extra players at other positions on the roster. I think this adds value to these 3. Just one thing to consider when building a roster.

 

[AbeBeta]

Right. We are going to draft a safety and make him learn the offense too. Not going to happen.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Many seem to think we will be drafting more than one edge rusher. I don't see that happening due to the roster size and the number of DE's we already have.

There are a couple of scenarios where I do see it becoming possible.

1. If Demontre Moore is not in the plans. It is possible they are going to give him a look but are of the mind that he needs to blow them away to earn a spot. I think this is highly doubtful.

2. We draft a player that fills multiple needs creating an extra roster spot. This I think could happen. There are numerous players in this draft that could fill multiple needs.

Peppers - SS/KR/Dunbars old role. He could fill 3 needs. Could even be on the WR depth chart as a guy that lines up there a few times a game. Could even be in the LB depth chart but that would take him away from SS so I won't go there. This would allow the team to let Lucky and Morris go. Then extra roster spots are created and we could draft two edge rushers.

Samuel - WR/KR/RB similar to Peppers. Morris and Lucky could both be replaced. Even Butlers spot could be in jeopardy but I think they would keep him for now.

Mccaffrey - also RB/WR/KR - multiple roles filled.

Several other WR's/RB's/CB's

There are many at these positions that could fill dual roles. Their immediate positions plus KR. There are some DB's that could be CB/S/KR as well.

This is how we carry an extra DE.

To take it a step further Peppers, Samuel or Mccaffrey give you the opportunity to not only carry an extra DE but you could carry an extra player at another position too. Want to draft a TE without giving up on Swaim/Hanna/Rico? This is the way to do it. Want to add another offensive lineman without giving up on those we already have? Carry an extra DT? Maybe you want to keep Morris at RB but still want a player to replace Dunbars role. Maybe you draft a QB and don't want to risk him on the practice squad.

Having a Peppers, Samuel, Mccaffrey type of player allows you to carry extra players at other positions on the roster. I think this adds value to these 3. Just one thing to consider when building a roster.

I think they could be looking at Bowser to be a Leo playing Lolb on run downs and RDE on passing down

 

[xwalker]

Many seem to think we will be drafting more than one edge rusher. I don't see that happening due to the roster size and the number of DE's we already have.

There are a couple of scenarios where I do see it becoming possible.

1. If Demontre Moore is not in the plans. It is possible they are going to give him a look but are of the mind that he needs to blow them away to earn a spot. I think this is highly doubtful.

2. We draft a player that fills multiple needs creating an extra roster spot. This I think could happen. There are numerous players in this draft that could fill multiple needs.

Peppers - SS/KR/Dunbars old role. He could fill 3 needs. Could even be on the WR depth chart as a guy that lines up there a few times a game. Could even be in the LB depth chart but that would take him away from SS so I won't go there. This would allow the team to let Lucky and Morris go. Then extra roster spots are created and we could draft two edge rushers.

Samuel - WR/KR/RB similar to Peppers. Morris and Lucky could both be replaced. Even Butlers spot could be in jeopardy but I think they would keep him for now.

Mccaffrey - also RB/WR/KR - multiple roles filled.

Several other WR's/RB's/CB's

There are many at these positions that could fill dual roles. Their immediate positions plus KR. There are some DB's that could be CB/S/KR as well.

This is how we carry an extra DE.

To take it a step further Peppers, Samuel or Mccaffrey give you the opportunity to not only carry an extra DE but you could carry an extra player at another position too. Want to draft a TE without giving up on Swaim/Hanna/Rico? This is the way to do it. Want to add another offensive lineman without giving up on those we already have? Carry an extra DT? Maybe you want to keep Morris at RB but still want a player to replace Dunbars role. Maybe you draft a QB and don't want to risk him on the practice squad.

Having a Peppers, Samuel, Mccaffrey type of player allows you to carry extra players at other positions on the roster. I think this adds value to these 3. Just one thing to consider when building a roster.

The Cowboys are unlikely to do anything out of the ordinary. Peppers playing offense seems highly unlikely with Garrett as the HC.

I like the concept of a RB/WR/Returner. They did use Dunbar as basically a WR on many of his snaps. Unfortunately he was not a Punt Returner which forced Lucky onto the 46 every week.

I was watching some old footage the other day. It reminded me of how cool is was that backup QB Danny White was also the punter.

Another way teams save a spot is by having a developmental QB that is good enough to be the #2. Often the developmental QB is #3 with a veteran as the #2 which is a waste of a roster spot many times because the veteran #2 often sucks if they have to play.

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

You don't waste draft picks on players, then change their position-unless it's after the 5th round. We DO need to draft at least two PRs, because we don't even know if we have ONE we can count on. Unless you have 3-5 studs who can put the QB on his butt, you don't win the SB-unless you have Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers on your team. We didn't have a SB winning team in the 90s, despite the "Triplets" & a great O-line, until we traded for Charles Haley. He made all of the average rushers around him better. Until we bring in that one dominating stud pass rusher, we have zero chance of winning another ring. You do that by drafting at least two. Then, you have double the chance of getting it right.

 

[Killerinstinct]

You don't waste draft picks on players, then change their position-unless it's after the 5th round. We DO need to draft at least two PRs, because we don't even know if we have ONE we can count on. Unless you have 3-5 studs who can put the QB on his butt, you don't win the SB-unless you have Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers on your team. We didn't have a SB winning team in the 90s, despite the "Triplets" & a great O-line, until we traded for Charles Haley. He made all of the average rushers around him better. Until we bring in that one dominating stud pass rusher, we have zero chance of winning another ring. You do that by drafting at least two. Then, you have double the chance of getting it right.

That is the point of the post. Finding a way to draft 2 DE's and fit them on the roster.

I wasn't advocating changing the position of a draft pick. Simply stating that if that player can server additional roles besides his normal position then it can open up a roster spot.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Right. We are going to draft a safety and make him learn the offense too. Not going to happen.

It's maddening to think we will be taking Ezekiel Elliott off the field to get Jabrill Peppers on the field

 

[StarBoyz83]

I want 2 but I can see them waiting to take a 2nd one next year to replace dlaw.

 

[Derinyar]

I think you might see two, but if you do you're talking one in the prime rounds and one in the later rounds.

 

[Pants]

so, if we drafted one of the Peppers, et al in the first round, we THEN use two other picks on a DE? not sure both would make the team...you can almost guarantee a first or second round guy to make the team, so in this scenario, we draft a jack-of-all-trades #1, then a DE #2...I can't see for a second THEN drafting another DE with the 3rd pick and now any other DE has a tough time beating out the incumbents (thus making picking a 2nd DE worthless, IMO)....can't see it

 

[Verdict]

The Cowboys are unlikely to do anything out of the ordinary. Peppers playing offense seems highly unlikely with Garrett as the HC.

I like the concept of a RB/WR/Returner. They did use Dunbar as basically a WR on many of his snaps. Unfortunately he was not a Punt Returner which forced Lucky onto the 46 every week.

I was watching some old footage the other day. It reminded me of how cool is was that backup QB Danny White was also the punter.

Another way teams save a spot is by having a developmental QB that is good enough to be the #2. Often the developmental QB is #3 with a veteran as the #2 which is a waste of a roster spot many times because the veteran #2 often sucks if they have to play.

Unless you have a really good (marginal #1 QB) as a backup QB they just don't win very many games. It would probably be better to have 2 developmental QBs behind your starter than a veteran who can't win unless it is a bottom feeding team.

 

[Verdict]

Some of you guys are hung up on numbers. It does no good to draft 2 defensive ends who are no better than what you already have on the roster.

I generally HATE trade ups and it would be better to trade up and get one DE who upgraded your team than spend a first and a second on two guys who are no better than Lawrence.

The best thing to do is go BPA all the way all the time and fill in the holes with free agency. Your marginal DE that you already have looks a hell of a lot better if he is lining up to a couple of guys that are collapsing the pocket on every down.

Tapper might really be better than any DE we could draft at #28. There may not be much difference between a late first round DE and a 3rd round DE in this draft, depending on how we grade them.

 

[xwalker]

Unless you have a really good (marginal #1 QB) as a backup QB they just don't win very many games. It would probably be better to have 2 developmental QBs behind your starter than a veteran who can't win unless it is a bottom feeding team.

I think it's one of the reasons New England uses premium picks on QBs. They will carry 3 QBs some years, but several seasons their #2 is the only backup and is a developmental player as well as actual backup. Grappalo in 2014 and 2015, Ryan Mallett in 2012 and 2013. They had 3 last season.

 

[Verdict]

Usually guys show "potential" pretty quickly. They may the be able to put it all together immediately, but they should flash potential pretty much from the start. I think sometimes we give players too long of a leash, including QBs.