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NFL website has an article on GFL WR Moritz Boehringer.

Stats, size and physical attributes all suggest an elite WR.

GFL is about the same standard as FCS in NCAA (i.e. same as Wentz). But probably a little more physical given it includes full time pros and seasoned vets as its not a college league.

We took on a BAFA player last season who'd only 1 seasons experience. GFL standard of play is light years ahead of BAFA to the extent that teams in both leagues are not allowed play one another in International competition - GFL is in the top tier of Euro leagues. BAFA is in the third tier.

Unlike Obada, this player also has 4 years of productive playing experience at a relatively high level.

Would be worth a late pick. ?
 
csirl said:
2nd best pro league in the world - sorry CFL and Arena.
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I understand the skepticism people have when considering players such as the one you mention. If they didn't come from the US and play high school and American collegiate football, then they probably aren't legit talents. For the most part, they would be right, for the moment. I have a feeling, though, that that's about to change as American Football gains popularity overseas. Personally, I think there's a decent chance that the NFL will have a team, and maybe two, in Europe within the next decade. Jack Crawford has done pretty well for one who didn't grow up playing the game...same for Efe Obada. Good athletes are just that...good athletes, and I suspect we'll see an increase in foreign born players dotting NFL rosters in the coming years. This situation sort of reminds me of the early Cowboys years when our front office brought in players from small schools (and found a few gems along the way) that other teams weren't aware of. The difference today, though, is that every team is aware of the talent out there, even on a global level. It will be a gradual process, but it will happen, IMO.
 
LandryFan said:
I have a feeling, though, that that's about to change as American Football gains popularity overseas. Personally, I think there's a decent chance that the NFL will have a team, and maybe two, in Europe within the next decade. Jack Crawford has done pretty well for one who didn't grow up playing the game...same for Efe Obada. Good athletes are just that...good athletes, and I suspect we'll see an increase in foreign born players dotting NFL rosters in the coming years.
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Your right about the increased popularity going forward. Most talented Europeans dont have access to or arent inclined to play high school or college football. To start with, most have no chance of getting through immigration - they don't give green cards to kids to attend high school. Secondly, there isn't the educational pull. Most of the exchange schemes have to heavily recruit and usually don't attract the best athletes. A typical conversation with a parent if a 16 y.o. talented footballer in Europe is as follows:

Recruiter - your son will get a wonderful chance to go to High School in the US.

Parent - my son attends a good high school here and is doing well.

Recruiter - it could lead to a college scholarship.

Parent - colleges in Europe are free to attend. My son is planning to study (insert subject) in one of the top university. (Insert name of US college) isn't as good and I dont like the course options that student athletes are pushed into. My son wants a good academic degree.

Recruiter - he could play pro ball.

Parent - the chances of any athlete making the NFL is remote. Hes already part of a European pro program.

Parents in Europe dont attach much value to a sports scholarship. I know European athletes who have rejected scholarships with ranked BCS teams due to the perception that BCS student athletes get poor degrees.

A lot was made about Bjorn Werner being drafted in the first round a few years back. I guarantee that for every Werner who takes the high school exchange, there are 100 others who declined.

If any of you know about soccer, 20 years ago the idea of players outside Europe or South America making it in the big soccer leagues was laughed at - including players from the USA. Now most big soccer teams have several players from outside Europe and South America. You're familiar with the rapid development of pro soccer in the US? Football is going through a very similar growth pattern in Europe.

There's been a very noticeable increase in NFL scouting in European leagues in the past 2 years. It wont be long before players will be regularly moving from Europe directly to the NFL. Those NFL teams who are early adopters will have a big advantage.
 
csirl said:
Your right about the increased popularity going forward. Most talented Europeans dont have access to or arent inclined to play high school or college football. To start with, most have no chance of getting through immigration - they don't give green cards to kids to attend high school. Secondly, there isn't the educational pull. Most of the exchange schemes have to heavily recruit and usually don't attract the best athletes. A typical conversation with a parent if a 16 y.o. talented footballer in Europe is as follows:

Recruiter - your son will get a wonderful chance to go to High School in the US.

Parent - my son attends a good high school here and is doing well.

Recruiter - it could lead to a college scholarship.

Parent - colleges in Europe are free to attend. My son is planning to study (insert subject) in one of the top university. (Insert name of US college) isn't as good and I dont like the course options that student athletes are pushed into. My son wants a good academic degree.

Recruiter - he could play pro ball.

Parent - the chances of any athlete making the NFL is remote. Hes already part of a European pro program.

Parents in Europe dont attach much value to a sports scholarship. I know European athletes who have rejected scholarships with ranked BCS teams due to the perception that BCS student athletes get poor degrees.

A lot was made about Bjorn Werner being drafted in the first round a few years back. I guarantee that for every Werner who takes the high school exchange, there are 100 others who declined.

If any of you know about soccer, 20 years ago the idea of players outside Europe or South America making it in the big soccer leagues was laughed at - including players from the USA. Now most big soccer teams have several players from outside Europe and South America. You're familiar with the rapid development of pro soccer in the US? Football is going through a very similar growth pattern in Europe.

There's been a very noticeable increase in NFL scouting in European leagues in the past 2 years. It wont be long before players will be regularly moving from Europe directly to the NFL. Those NFL teams who are early adopters will have a big advantage.
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Thanks for giving a different perspective...enlightening.
 
Seems like NFL teams are looking at Europe leagues a little more. Obada came from there, the Giants signed some French WR recently.

All I know is that the Twitter is going crazy over this "White Randy Moss" and some people are already saying he has "4th round potential". Kind of crazy talk, but there you go.
 
I know some here may not have heard of this guy out of Germany
But if not, you will soon.

He's already considered a good player with great upside, but his Pro Day was pretty freakish.

Caught everything thrown his way...100%

But here's the real shocker

6'4"
227 lbs

4.41 forty
39' vertical
10' 11" broad jump
6.64 3 cone

WOW
:omg:
 
Alexander said:
Seems like NFL teams are looking at Europe leagues a little more. Obada came from there, the Giants signed some French WR recently.

All I know is that the Twitter is going crazy over this "White Randy Moss" and some people are already saying he has "4th round potential". Kind of crazy talk, but there you go.
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I saw the two threads here and first wondered if it was a Sidd Finch type situation. Did some research and have to admit, I came away impressed.

Now, there's no accurate measuring stick for the competition he faced in his league. Still, he has good burst, catches the ball well, and runs solid routes.


Then you throw in his Pro Day numbers and the knock on Pro Days is that the schools help ***** the numbers. Florida Atlantic had no need or motivation to promote this guy. I like him, if a team used him like Aaron Hernandez (pre-murder) or Jordan Reed, I think he'd be a match-up problem.
 
I didn't see this thread and posted another one. My bad.
Anyway. his pro Day today was at FAU.

He would have been in the top 5 at the combine in all measurable
Tall ('4"), very fast (4.41), and explosive (39" vert) and not all straight line (6.64 3 cone).
He also caught everything thrown his way.

No idea if he'll pan out but it is noteworthy
 
DFWJC said:
I didn't see this thread and posted another one. My bad.
Anyway. his pro Day today was at FAU.

He would have been in the top 5 at the combine in all measurable
Tall ('4"), very fast (4.41), and explosive (39" vert) and not all straight line (6.64 3 cone).
He also caught everything thrown his way.

No idea if he'll pan out but it is noteworthy
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That's impressive.

I wonder where he ends up in the draft.
 
Not seeing the Randy Moss comparisons, hand catcher and will extend but does not sky over defenders. Big and fast but not a once in a lifetime talent. Reminds me more of the big fast Arkansas QB that converted to WR.

Worth one of the comp picks in 6th round IMO.
 
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