Mortenson: Saints Done in Nawlins

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Updated: Oct. 23, 2005, 11:49 AM ET
San Antonio is team's likely home next season


ESPN.com news services



Saints owner Tom Benson declared this week that nothing will be decided on the franchise's future until after the season. But ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports that, based on information from key league sources, the team has probably played its last game in New Orleans.

According to Mortensen, San Antonio is a likely home for 2006 and Los Angeles is the preferred destination beyond that. The NFL could still include New Orleans as a Super Bowl site when the city is reconstructed, and expansion might even be a possibility, but that's 10 to 15 years away.

If the Saints relocate to San Antonio or elsewhere, New Orleans has only a slim chance of ever seeing another NFL team, according to a major sports consultant.

Marc Ganis of SportsCorp Ltd. in Chicago served as a consultant to Cleveland in 1996 when that city's NFL team moved to Baltimore and the NFL guaranteed Cleveland a new team and allowed the city to keep the Browns' logos, colors and nickname.

Earlier this week, New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin said he wanted the "Cleveland deal" if the team relocates. Gov. Kathleen Blanco said she supported Nagin on such a plan.

But Ganis questioned the strategy.

"If I were advising Mayor Nagin, I would have given him the same advice that someone should have given the mayors of Baltimore and Houston," Ganis said. "Hold on to what you have. Do everything you have to hold on to what you've got, because there's no certainty to what will come next or what will come at all."

Houston lost the Oilers to Tennessee and later got the expansion Texans.

Ganis said New Orleans is already viewed as a small market struggling to remain financially competitive -- and most NFL owners oppose expanding beyond the present 32 teams.

Cleveland provided stout support for its new team with corporate dollars and businesses that generated tax money to build a new stadium, Ganis said.

"It's not the people," Ganis said of New Orleans' situation. "It's not the individuals who show up at the game and buy the tickets. The people are great. It's the business, or lack of, that's the primary factor. For whatever reason, the area simply does not have many strong and large businesses."

But Ganis and two other sports consultants said the issue includes a wild card -- compassion for a city devastated by Hurricane Katrina.

"When it's all said and done, the whole situation boils down to one thing -- how do these 32 owners feel about resolving New Orleans while protecting their franchise value?" said David Carter, a sports consultant in Los Angeles.

Dean Bonham, a sports consultant based in Denver, questioned whether the NFL would support a move to San Antonio, which like New Orleans is considered a small market, or whether the NFL could strike a deal to build or renovate a stadium equipped for a team in Los Angeles.

If neither San Antonio nor Los Angeles is adequately prepared to support an NFL team, Bonham said the Saints will likely remain in New Orleans.

"I would have to say the chances are 50-50 or less that you'll see the New Orleans Saints move from one city to another at this point," Bonham said.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
 

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Why would the NFL let San Antonio have a team for a year only to move them the very next season? That would be very unfair to the fans in San Antonio. Personally, I wouldn't mind having three Texas teams.
 

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On the bright side, don't we play the AFC south next year? If the schedule works out right for us we could have 2 short away games next year to Houston and San Antonio.
 

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Cowboy from New York said:
On the bright side, don't we play the AFC south next year? If the schedule works out right for us we could have 2 short away games next year to Houston and San Antonio.
Damn good observation. Virtually 10 home games. Add Arizona in AZ and we'd have 11.
 

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thewivil said:
Why would the NFL let San Antonio have a team for a year only to move them the very next season? That would be very unfair to the fans in San Antonio. Personally, I wouldn't mind having three Texas teams.
Would you still feel that way knowing that you would see less Cowboys games because the Saints are a NFC team. Many San Antonio fans would miss a lot more games if they become the permanent team.
 

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Would you still feel that way knowing that you would see less Cowboys games because the Saints are a NFC team. Many San Antonio fans would miss a lot more games if they become the permanent team.



good point. it would be interesting to see where loyalties go. i'm from SA and that is a COWBOYS town. i wonder if they'd become SA fans??? and i wonder how many SA cowboys fans would be ticked off about not seeing the boys as much.
 

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phillycowboyslover said:
good point. it would be interesting to see where loyalties go. i'm from SA and that is a COWBOYS town. i wonder if they'd become SA fans??? and i wonder how many SA cowboys fans would be ticked off about not seeing the boys as much.

I would be pissed
 

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I'm having a hard time coming up with other cities for the NFL/Saints to move. Los Angeles, San Antonio...

maybe Portland, OR
maybe Birmingham, AL
maybe Salt Lake City, UT
maybe Lexington or Louisville, KY

NFL'd never allow Nevada. Surprised Austin, TX is never mentioned by any sports league. Seems like there are a lot of large companies with locations there and a lot of football fans. Money for skyboxes and season tix.
 

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My guess is that IF SA got the Saints the league would take that into account in their scheduling as much as possible.

They would find a way for SA to get SA Saints/Whatever games and the Cowboys games as well. There is just too much money in ratings/ads there.

Of course over time that would change though it would take a while.

I mean its true that SA is cowboys country...but thats mostly because there is no team there and the choices came down to the Cowboys or Oilers. So of course they are almost ALL cowboy fans. Who the hell would root for the Oilers if they didnt have to???

But if SA got a team....the people would root for both for a while...but overtime the cowboys woud become more of a secondary team only.
 

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New Orleans should go straight to Los Angeles and bypass San Antonio altogether. You mean to tell me they can't find a place for them to play next year? Please.
 

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The Saints owner wants SA..not Los Angeles.

Besides...despite all their money, LA never seems to support an NFL team well there. I dont know why people think that is going to change now.
 

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IF the Saints go to San Antonio it wont be a one year deal. San Antonio will be their home.

The front runners for moving to LA are the Chargers and the Jaguars.

The Chargers because of location and the deal they have for the stadium they are in ends in 2007.

The Jags because the city of Jacksonville really has done little in recent years to support the team. They cant sell out games and therefore have among the lowest attendances in the NFL.
 

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speedkilz88 said:
Would you still feel that way knowing that you would see less Cowboys games because the Saints are a NFC team. Many San Antonio fans would miss a lot more games if they become the permanent team.
I know I was extremely upset win Houston was awarded the Texans. Now there are usually about 3 Cowboys games a year that are not televised here.

It would be worse for the Cowboy fans in San Antonio, because the Saints are an NFC team.
 
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