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Is Dan Snyder a Top-Five Owner?

July 2, 2007 2:16 PM

Michael Silver has released his annual NFL owner power rankings, and it comes as no surprise that Robert Kraft and Jerry Jones head the list.

Who finished last?

None other than Bengals owner Mike Brown, who according to Silver, made an unfortunate remark during last March's owners' meetings:

In the midst of a complaint about the current stadium-building plan that is part of the league's revenue-sharing arrangement, Brown was reminded by a fellow owner that he had taken advantage of the same plan (and a provision that allowed him to waive the club-seat premiums that normally go to visiting teams) upon opening Paul Brown Stadium several years earlier. According to a witness, Brown replied, "Look, it seemed like a good thing in the beginning. A lot of people think a lot of things are good in the beginning. A lot of people thought Hitler was good in the beginning."

As a general rule, it's best to avoid references to Hitler when making sports analogies.

Now, I'd like for you to choose your top five owners from among all the major sports. Show work.

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Wow, let's all get shellshocked at a Hitler reference, a negative reference toward Hitler at that. Looks as if we've traveled down the P.C. road quite a-ways.:rolleyes:
 
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Keeping up with the Joneses is about to become that much tougher for the rest of the owners. When the Cowboys' $1 billion stadium in Arlington opens in 2009, it promises to be the sweetest and most profitable outdoor facility in the land, what with its state-of-the-art architectural touches, sliding roofs and playing fields, monstrous video screens, tricked-out club areas (which players pass through on their way to the field). It'll have a seating capacity of 80,000 for regular season games and more than 100,000 for Super Bowls -- beginning with Super Bowl XLV in 2011, which Jones helped the region land in May. (Jerry's eldest son, Stephen, the team's executive vice president, spearheaded the stadium deal.)

The best thing for Cowboys fans is that Jones will take much of the money that comes pouring in and put it back into his product. He'll do the same with the extra cash he didn't have to pay his former coach after Bill Parcells blinked first last January and resigned without a buyout. (Yeah, I know it wasn't reported that way, but it was a staredown, and Jones won.)

Things haven't been as bountiful on the field for the Cowboys lately as they were in the '90s, but it's not because Jones isn't trying. Besides, how cool is a boss who encourages his emerging-star quarterback to live it up off the field?

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/michael_silver/06/27/ownerrankings/1.html
 
He is a great owner. He's a crap GM though.

He and Jerry are similar in many ways.
 
What the Hitler does Mike Brown and the Bengals have to do with Daniel Snyder being a top five owner????????:confused:
 
It is generally thought of as being a stupid move to use the hitler references however he is making a valid point.

Many do not know that Hitler was Time Magazines man of the Year in 38 or 39.
In the beginning he was viewed as a patriot that was uniting his country and bringing it back to power after WWI.

Of course later the world found out what kind of man he truly was.

So, the owner makes a valid comparison of how at the beginning things can look good but turn bad. However it is not the wisest choice of using Hitler for those comparisons as he was a monster.
 
Angus;1543233 said:
He'll do the same with the extra cash he didn't have to pay his former coach after Bill Parcells blinked first last January and resigned without a buyout. (Yeah, I know it wasn't reported that way, but it was a staredown, and Jones won.)

Interesting take there. I would say that Bill staying on for an extra week and being available to talk with some of the HC candidates at that time doesn't sound like a "staredown" to me. For the most part, you only buy someone out if you fire them -- not if they quit.
 
I don't like Snyder, but yes, he's a top 5 owner. He is trying to build a winner and he's made the Commanders the current most valuable franchise in the NFL.

If I had to guess.

1. Kraft, Patriots
2. Jones, Cowboys (take over #1 once the new stadium arrives)
3. Lurie, Eagles
4. Snyder, Commanders
5. Richardson, Panthers

I still appreciate the old school guys like Rooney, Steelers, and Mara, Giants, but they are clearly living on the images of their pioneer fathers.

The 5 worst if I had to guess.

32. Bidwell, Cardinals
31. Brown, Bengals
30. Ford, Lions
29. McCaskey, Bears
28. Frontiere, Rams
 
ndanger;1543237 said:
What the Hitler does Mike Brown and the Bengals have to do with Daniel Snyder being a top five owner????????:confused:

LINK

It is the story he is referencing. However it is a 9 pager so better to just provide the link.
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/michael_silver/06/27/ownerrankings/index.html

Money men

Evaluating and ranking all the NFL owners, from 1-32

Posted: Monday July 2, 2007 12:15PM; Updated: Monday July 2, 2007 2:46PM

2.) Jerry Jones (Stephen Jones), Dallas Cowboys

Keeping up with the Joneses is about to become that much tougher for the rest of the owners. When the Cowboys' $1 billion stadium in Arlington opens in 2009, it promises to be the sweetest and most profitable outdoor facility in the land, what with its state-of-the-art architectural touches, sliding roofs and playing fields, monstrous video screens, tricked-out club areas (which players pass through on their way to the field). It'll have a seating capacity of 80,000 for regular season games and more than 100,000 for Super Bowls -- beginning with Super Bowl XLV in 2011, which Jones helped the region land in May. (Jerry's eldest son, Stephen, the team's executive vice president, spearheaded the stadium deal.)
The best thing for Cowboys fans is that Jones will take much of the money that comes pouring in and put it back into his product. He'll do the same with the extra cash he didn't have to pay his former coach after Bill Parcells blinked first last January and resigned without a buyout. (Yeah, I know it wasn't reported that way, but it was a staredown, and Jones won.)
Things haven't been as bountiful on the field for the Cowboys lately as they were in the '90s, but it's not because Jones isn't trying. Besides, how cool is a boss who encourages his emerging-star quarterback to live it up off the field?
 
The best thing for Cowboys fans is that Jones will take much of the money that comes pouring in and put it back into his product. He'll do the same with the extra cash he didn't have to pay his former coach after Bill Parcells blinked first last January and resigned without a buyout. (Yeah, I know it wasn't reported that way, but it was a staredown, and Jones won.)

Michael Silver is on the radio frequently here in Seattle. He's your typical, cynical, smart-aleck writer and has absolutely no inside knowledge about the situation in Dallas. In other words, his comment is nothing more than speculation -- or wishful thinking.
 
Hostile;1543242 said:
I don't like Snyder, but yes, he's a top 5 owner. He is trying to build a winner and he's made the Commanders the current most valuable franchise in the NFL.

If I had to guess.

1. Kraft, Patriots
2. Jones, Cowboys (take over #1 once the new stadium arrives)
3. Lurie, Eagles
4. Snyder, Commanders
5. Richardson, Panthers

I still appreciate the old school guys like Rooney, Steelers, and Mara, Giants, but they are clearly living on the images of their pioneer fathers.

The 5 worst if I had to guess.

32. Bidwell, Cardinals
31. Brown, Bengals
30. Ford, Lions
29. McCaskey, Bears
28. Frontiere, Rams

Good guesses -- they put Glazer in the top and Lurie as 6th -- to me, Glazer is far more successful as a soccer owner.

But you knew I'd say that.
 
abersonc;1543248 said:
Good guesses -- they put Glazer in the top and Lurie as 6th -- to me, Glazer is far more successful as a soccer owner.

But you knew I'd say that.
I might have had the Glazers in the top 10, but not top 5. Oh yeah, I didn't even know they were involved in soccer, and I'm proud of that. :D

How'd I do on the bottom 5?
 
Angus;1543213 said:
As a general rule, it's best to avoid references to Hitler when making sports analogies.

Actually, the rule of thumb is to never reference Hitler for anything. Not just sports. Anyhow, I do not heed that advice, because Hitler wouldn't have. :laugh2:
 
Hostile;1543249 said:
I might have had the Glazers in the top 10, but not top 5. Oh yeah, I didn't even know they were involved in soccer, and I'm proud of that. :D

How'd I do on the bottom 5?

Not as well. But really after 20, it is more about who you hate personally.

32. Brown, Bengals
31. Benson, Saints
30. Wilson, Bills
29. Ford, Lions
28. Weaver, Jags
27. Bidwell, Cardinals
26. McCaskey, Bears
21. Frontiere, Rams
 
abersonc;1543262 said:
Not as well. But really after 20, it is more about who you hate personally.

32. Brown, Bengals
31. Benson, Saints
30. Wilson, Bills
29. Ford, Lions
28. Weaver, Jags
27. Bidwell, Cardinals
26. McCaskey, Bears
21. Frontiere, Rams
Egads, Bidwell not in the bottom 5? Only got 2 of 5. Rats.

Benson rose up my list for 2 reasons. Recent good personnel decisions and perseverance in the aftermath of Katrina.

Wilson gets a bit of a pass from me for being an old school guy, but I can see this.
 

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